I just saw an incredibly nasty video of the GRS surgery. It looks really scary, and now I'm asking myself if you really are able to still have feelings
after the surgery, and even an orgasm?! because it looks like everything is destroyed... ;/
By the way, Dr. Marci Bowers is a great surgeon, isn't she?
I have seen the same video and all it did was make me want it even more.
From what I can gather, it seems like people who don't have as much sensation as they wanted post-SRS are in the minority.
Hi Little_Cherry
To answer your question, there are certainly feelings.
and yes it's possible to have an orgasm.
In my expirience it's only you have to work a little harder and it takes a little longer than before surgery.
But it's quite a nice job so, who cares about working a little harder.
The good news is that there are also possibilities about having multiple orgasms
The operation looks scary but you're sleeping with anasthesia so, you won't notice anything of it.
Don't be affraid, it's like your praying is heard, you go to sleep and wake up as a woman, great isn't it?
hugs
Annette
I start that part of my journey in 10 days with Dr Brassard in Montreal but I've talked to a number of women who've had the operation and most are completely orgasmic and have incredible orgasms.
Teresa
Trust me feelings and orgasm are most certainly possible >:-)
Pre surgery I had a few and they were Meh! - Post surgery they range from very nice to positively mind blowing.
I was going to post an angry blast about this being a darn silly question, but I decided to play nice. Nevertheless it honestly is. There are a few unlucky souls whose surgeons accidentally cut a few nerves and they do lose some sensation - but for most of us its fine, if anything all the better for the fact that everything is at last in more or less the right place, and so the brain can finally properly relate to the sensations derived.
Bottom line if, after a few months healing time, you end up non orgasmic and without sensation you either had the worlds worst SRS surgeon, or you were real unlucky!
I hope that reassures you and/or anyone else reading this.
PS - I'm now 26 years postop, I therefore have nothing to prove here. It was ok back then and the techniques have been improved vastly since my day, what is more at 50 years old and 25 years postop I went back for some additional tweaks - do you REALLY think I would have bothered and taken the risk if there weren't any sensations involved? I'm really not that rich or stupid as to throw good money after bad.
Relax - it's fine.
I had mine with Brassard and everything works fine. Good luck with your surgery. :)
You definitely have pain.
Quote from: lisagurl on March 27, 2011, 08:35:37 AM
You definitely have pain.
That's not necessarily true and it's not fair implanting that expectation into someone's mind. I had no pain, the same goes for another girl who was in Montreal the same time I was. Of course I lied a little to the nurses just to get the oxy's. :) If you go into this expecting to have pain, then you likely will.
Quote from: Kristyn on March 27, 2011, 08:50:00 AM
That's not necessarily true and it's not fair implanting that expectation into someone's mind. I had no pain, the same goes for another girl who was in Montreal the same time I was. Of course I lied a little to the nurses just to get the oxy's. :) If you go into this expecting to have pain, then you likely will.
Quite so. There is some discomfort, but from my experience calling it pain is overstating things.
I once broke my elbow - That WAS painful. By comparison SRS was more like grazing your knee in the park.
Is there a difference in this regard between which method of surgery is used?
Not that I am aware of.
I am very agree with Jenny.
I had my srs in the same time she had.
The pain was not too bad, it's oncomfortable but not screaming and yelling of pain.
And...we are now 25 years later, surgery has improved.
Nevertheless, even if there was pain involved.....was there any other choice?
The main dorsal nerve bundle is preserved in the clitoris so that part for me had sensation from day one. Now at 9 months later I'm still having nerve regrowth in the other areas, most notably around the lower part of my labia. But I've had full orgasmic sensation, both from inner (vaginal, or G-spot) and outer (clitoral) since early on.
Quote from: Little_Cherry on March 27, 2011, 03:17:31 AM
I just saw an incredibly nasty video of the GRS surgery. It looks really scary, and now I'm asking myself if you really are able to still have feelings
after the surgery, and even an orgasm?! because it looks like everything is destroyed... ;/
By the way, Dr. Marci Bowers is a great surgeon, isn't she?
Short answer:
Yes! ;)
And;
YES! :D ;D :laugh::D ;D :laugh::D ;D :laugh::D ;D :laugh::D ;D :laugh:
BTW:
The surgery is difficult, grueling and bloody, that is true. But, really, only the testicles and the spongy tissue that makes up the erectile tissue of the penis is discarded. The penile skin, scrotum, glans, and even part of the excised urethra are reused. Our genitalia are very similar in structure and in the womb before three weeks are indistinguishable between gender.
This is not a surgery to be considered lightly and you only have one chance, really, to get it right. And only the most confident, skillful, surgeons even attempt it. Dr. Bowers is such a surgeon.
As the other girls have described, nerve sensations are changed, but orgasms are possible with patience and retraining.
-Sandy
To me the uncomfortable or pain will be worth it.
A quick question while on this topic...on pre op orgasms I have a ejaculation reflex still.
When you are post op, and the penis is taken away...is that reflex/ impluse gone?
Thanks
Amelia
Quote from: ameliat on March 27, 2011, 07:06:53 PM
To me the uncomfortable or pain will be worth it.
A quick question while on this topic...on pre op orgasms I have a ejaculation reflex still.
When you are post op, and the penis is taken away...is that reflex/ impluse gone?
Thanks
Amelia
It changes - like so many things. I don't know how universal this is. It may be different for each of us.
For me it became instead a spasming of the pelvic floor muscles which cause the vagina to contract and squeeze in a rhythmic manner. From what I can recall of being male (its over 25 years since now) the sensations were very localised and fixed in one place. Now the thing is often much more spread out over the whole body. If there is a focus it is deep inside the pelvis and lower abdomen somewhere below my stomach where I feel a strong tensing followed by huge waves of euphoria.
Quote from: Little_Cherry on March 27, 2011, 03:17:31 AM
I just saw an incredibly nasty video of the GRS surgery. It looks really scary, and now I'm asking myself if you really are able to still have feelings
after the surgery, and even an orgasm?! because it looks like everything is destroyed... ;/
By the way, Dr. Marci Bowers is a great surgeon, isn't she?
I watched the vid. while eating lunch (not recommended) But yeah, I've heard great things about Ms. Bowers... She is in my top three list of possible surgeons
The surgeons seem to be very careful to not destroy anything unnecessarily... They have a limited amount of time to work in and they want to get it right the first time... They're reputations are at stake each time they go into surgery... If there ever is a problem they are more than willing to make it right
There is definitely sensation though in my experience it is not as easy to orgasm. I used to have multiples before the surgery but haven't had any of those lately. Clitoris stimulation doesn't really do it for me anymore. However.... when I was 20 days post op I had the most intense vaginal orgasm while dilating, which earned me a slap on the hand from the clinic staff since we're not supposed to even THINK about pleasure until after 3 months. :D
I wonder if the degree of responsiveness in each place (vaginal vs clitoris) varies from person to person.
Thanks Jenny for replying to my specific question. I am thank ful to you. So much we want to know, but how do we know unless we ask someone who has been there?
Hugs
Amelia
Does anyone know where I can find this video?
Teresa
Quote from: LadyTeresa on March 30, 2011, 02:42:40 PM
Does anyone know where I can find this video?
Teresa
I'm not sure which one that was being referred to but there are several on YouTube. Here is one. It is graphic:
Sex Change Operation Surgery - SRS Reassignment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOwp3IBQ_Sc#)
Also there were several surgeries shown on "Sex Change Hospital". When they were broadcast, they were sanitized for delicate sensibilities, but if you find them on the web they may be on full display.
-Sandy
Quote from: Little_Cherry on March 27, 2011, 03:17:31 AM
I just saw an incredibly nasty video of the GRS surgery. It looks really scary, and now I'm asking myself if you really are able to still have feelings
after the surgery, and even an orgasm?! because it looks like everything is destroyed... ;/
By the way, Dr. Marci Bowers is a great surgeon, isn't she?
Do you have the link to that Video..???
Quote from: brianna1969 on April 04, 2011, 09:22:22 AM
Do you have the link to that Video..???
Hey, Sorry I just saw today your post. I deleted it, because I couldnt see it again, and I didnt see any sense in it because it won't help me for my surgery anyway.
But it was from Dr. Marci Bowers, and I found it on this forum if this helps..
huggles cherry
I found it!
It's this. GRS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj1QazdaEEA#ws)
Quote from: FairyGirl on March 27, 2011, 05:30:51 PM
The main dorsal nerve bundle is preserved in the clitoris so that part for me had sensation from day one. Now at 9 months later I'm still having nerve regrowth in the other areas, most notably around the lower part of my labia. But I've had full orgasmic sensation, both from inner (vaginal, or G-spot) and outer (clitoral) since early on.
This is good to know. After 1 month, there are still lots that are numb but 2 weeks into surgery I was having snap crackle pops of electricity althroughout that area and I've been told thats nerves reconnecting, weeeee hehe
As for the OP's question, from what I understand, even though things are removed and put bakc together again, the nerves tend to heal up and regrow together so there is definitely feeling involved afterward....although it may take time
Quote from: Debra on April 15, 2011, 01:44:50 PM
This is good to know. After 1 month, there are still lots that are numb but 2 weeks into surgery I was having snap crackle pops of electricity althroughout that area and I've been told thats nerves reconnecting, weeeee hehe
OMG, it's day ten and it feels like I have an electrical storm in my panties. It's kinda fun but I can see this getting really old really fast.
Teresa
Quote from: LadyTeresa on April 16, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
OMG, it's day ten and it feels like I have an electrical storm in my panties. It's kinda fun but I can see this getting really old really fast.
Teresa
Oddly enough it goes away after a bit. And yet there's still numbness. I can only guess that the nerves reconnect and then take more time to fully heal after that.