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Community Conversation => Crossdresser talk => Topic started by: gina_taylor on January 23, 2007, 10:09:56 AM

Title: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: gina_taylor on January 23, 2007, 10:09:56 AM
A few weeks ago, I had learned that a cross-dresser friend had been involved in a automobile accident on her way back to Elizabethtown, Kentucky. She was dressed while driving, and when the paramedics pulled her from her car, they ripped her dress and tore at her pantyhose as they transfered her to an EMS vehicle. She's doing fairly well now, but her truck was totalled and she was told not to drive until April. Her doctor told her that she may have suffered from a slight seizure. Recently she told me that if a police officer were to pull over a transsexual or a cross-dresser for no reason, it is wrong. If your valid driver's license is good, it is good all the time, regardless of how you are dressed. Even after my accident, the state police did not say anything about my license.

Gina  :)
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: gennee on January 24, 2007, 10:25:50 AM
I'm very happy  :) to hear that your friend is okay. SHe's right about the police pulling you over. They have to have a probable cause for doing so.

Gennee  
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: gina_taylor on February 02, 2007, 03:45:16 PM
My friend is recovering very well from her accident, but she just recently told me that she may be driving a little sooner than she had expected. So she's kind of excited about going out and finding a new vehicle!

Gina  :)
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: no_names on February 05, 2007, 11:48:39 AM
I just joined the group here, and I am a police officer  :police:. Unless there is probable cause to pull you over like drunk driving or someother traffic violation. Unless like me who is an admirer and wants to see you up close and personal  >:D..and yes..I have pulled over a TV...we dated for over a year.. ;)
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: beth on February 05, 2007, 11:57:40 AM
Quote from: no_names on February 05, 2007, 11:48:39 AM
I just joined the group here, and I am a police officer  :police:. Unless there is probable cause to pull you over like drunk driving or someother traffic violation. Unless like me who is an admirer and wants to see you up close and personal  >:D..and yes..I have pulled over a TV...we dated for over a year.. ;)


                     That kind of behavior is illegal and unprofessional.  I would expect lots more from a police officer but then there are disappointments among people in all walks of life.






beth
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: Suzy on February 05, 2007, 09:04:31 PM
Gina,

Glad your friend is OK.  She really needs to find out if she had a seizure.  If so then she does NOT need to be driving.  For her sake.  Next time she may not be so lucky.  Has she been checked out to drive?  In my state you have to have a medical release after any kind of seizure.

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Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: gina_taylor on February 14, 2007, 03:35:00 PM
Thanks for your concern Kristi. I will ask her about her if it was a seizure that she had and if they will allow her to drive. Eight now she has been enjoying the exercise of walking.

I must agree with Beth on what was posted by no name, that that kind of behavior is illegal and unprofessional.  Last year I was in a situation like that, but nothing much came of it. But that's another story . . .

Gina
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: Danielle_oc_ca on March 18, 2007, 07:06:04 PM
As far as I know, no state or Canadian province has any law that says your clothing and outward presentation must match your gender indicated on your ID. I drive dressed all the time.

With all the pressure society places on a person to dress as a male or female, remember, there is actually NO DRESS CODE. The only laws about clothing are about public nudity. A man or a woman is entitled to wear a dress, wear makeup, have his hair grown long or anything he or she wants as long as they do not fall under the nudity laws.

However, when you talk to the police just admit to them you are crossdressed or a transexual and every where I have been, they're cool with it. However, if you have been picked up for DUI, request a jail outfit or the like before you are placed in a cell. Myself, I always carry a pair of sweat pants, a T-Shirt and some tennis shoes in the back of the car, just in case. As you don't want to be in the men's lockup wearing a dress.

Danielle.
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: gina_taylor on May 14, 2007, 06:18:14 AM
Thanks for the post Danielle. Whenever I'm out dressed. I have no problem , and if I do ever get stopped, I'm very honest with the officer. Are you full time or part time?

Gina  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: gennee on May 14, 2007, 08:19:03 AM
How is your friend doing, Gina? Has she resumed driving?

Gennee

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Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: ssindysmith on May 14, 2007, 11:08:57 AM
I hope your friend is still doing well :)

OMG I had this super rude copper give me a speeding ticket (55 in a 25 total speed trap) one time, my DL still was the old male me I was dressed kinda androgen, with makeup and a ponytail shorts and a blouse when he gave me back my ticket he made the "M" very large and obvious and his comments were crudish Sir do you know why I stopped you, heres your ticket SIR etc. a real jerk I just told him yes sir and thank you paid the fine and that was it.
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: gina_taylor on May 14, 2007, 02:58:16 PM
Thanks for your concern, girls. My friend Stephanie is doing quite fine. She recently told me that her son will be letting her borrow his car for a while.

Hey Ssindy, I'm really sorry to hear about your bad confrontation, but it sounds like you handled it in a really good manner. I hate it when people think that their being smart by refering to us like that.

Gina  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: ssindysmith on May 14, 2007, 03:02:34 PM
He was a punk, but someone told me one time "the side of the road was not the place to fight a traffic ticket"
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: gina_taylor on May 15, 2007, 06:17:56 AM
Hey Ssindy, unfortunatelly you'll run into those types. Last month I had a flat tire, so I pulled off to the side of the road. I jacked my truck up and went to get the spare and it was gone. I had to call my father for assistence. We went to get a new tire (which took an hour) and right before I'm leaving the store my cell rings and am asked a few questions and then I'm told that I could be charged for obstructing traffic and a towing charge. I told the officer where I was and that I'd be back in 15 minutes. I was able to beat the ticket and the twoing charge. But the thing that really urked me was that my left tire was on the yellow line, so I didn't see how I was obstructing traffic.

Gina  :icon_biggrin:
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: Loni on July 06, 2009, 07:12:13 PM
how much money in the coffers of your local city pocket?
Courts via the police have been know to "pad" a ticket just to get more cash, or the old way was to drop one charge to make you feel better.

But if you are close to the fog line your car/truck can get hit very easy.
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: tekla on July 06, 2009, 08:08:46 PM
Any cop can invent a probable cause.  The slightest weave or swerve, no signals, whatever.  What the Supreme Court has said several times is that pretty much any cop has a right to pull you over at any time, as driving is a licensed privilege, not a right.
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: heatherrose on July 06, 2009, 10:35:53 PM



Quote from: Danielle_oc_ca on March 18, 2007, 07:06:04 PMAs far as I know, no state or Canadian province has any law that says your clothing and outward presentation must match your gender indicated on your ID.

In some jurisdictions it IS illegal to "disguise your indentity".
As always, a cop with a hearton for your "kind"
can "interpret" the law any way they see fit.
The spirit of the law is of no consequence as
you're standing on the side of the road.


Quote from: tekla on July 06, 2009, 08:08:46 PM
Any cop can invent a probable cause.


The "Statie Jackboot's" favorite is "operation of a motor vehicle while in possession
of a Commercial Driver's License" but those people DESERVE extra scrutiny.



Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: Mister on July 06, 2009, 10:44:54 PM
QuoteI had learned that a cross-dresser friend had been involved in a automobile accident on her way back to Elizabethtown, Kentucky. She was dressed while driving, and when the paramedics pulled her from her car, they ripped her dress and tore at her pantyhose as they transfered her to an EMS vehicle

So they assessed her for injuries.  Is this news?
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: V M on July 06, 2009, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: no_names on February 05, 2007, 11:48:39 AM
I just joined the group here, and I am a police officer  :police:. Unless there is probable cause to pull you over like drunk driving or someother traffic violation. Unless like me who is an admirer and wants to see you up close and personal  >:D..and yes..I have pulled over a TV...we dated for over a year.. ;)
LOL  :laugh: My guess is that you don't actually pull over women at random because your attracted to them. You just added that part as a way to tell us girls that you're interested in meeting some-one new and have dated a t-girl before  :laugh:

When some-one is wounded, sometimes it is necessary to remove various clothing. I doubt that EMT.s would purposely damage anyones clothing for no reason
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: tekla on July 07, 2009, 12:05:28 AM
The "Statie Jackboot's" favorite is "operation of a motor vehicle while in possession of a Commercial Driver's License"

Try being Black or Hispanic.
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: Alyssa M. on July 07, 2009, 12:08:32 AM
Hi Loni, nice "necro-post." I wouldn't expect a response from the original poster, since this happened over two years ago and that person isn't around anymore. ;)

But "disguising my identity"? How ridiculous. I'm not "disguising" a thing. When I go to a bar or liquor store, I show the same state-issued legal ID as I show cops. I've had no problem. Nonetheless, I avoid places like Kentucky on general principle and for personal preservation.
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: V M on July 07, 2009, 12:13:43 AM
Quote from: tekla on July 07, 2009, 12:05:28 AM
The "Statie Jackboot's" favorite is "operation of a motor vehicle while in possession of a Commercial Driver's License"

Try being Black or Hispanic.
I tried. But they wouldn't believe me for some reason
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: tekla on July 07, 2009, 12:19:32 AM
It's called DWB or DWM here in Cali.   Of course there is driving while hippie too, get out in the rural areas and you'll see the lights in the mirror.
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: V M on July 07, 2009, 12:41:54 AM
Yeah, racial or other bigoted stuff is a bummer. The few times I lived in Mexico
My name was either Wada or Blondie
Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: heatherrose on July 07, 2009, 02:37:36 AM



Try being a redheaded "Patty" transsexual trucker.

Now that that has had time to sink in, what
prejudicial, stereotypes did that conjure up?



Title: Re: Accidents Will Happen . . .
Post by: Janet_Girl on July 07, 2009, 07:06:32 AM
Having worked as an EMT at one time.  Depending on the circomstances, clothing would be remove to better access the body, wound inspections, heart attacks, present of blood not from facial wounds.  Same with pantyhose.

Always have a carry letter that explains your situation, in case you are not capable to communicate.

Janet