i'm curious. i hear alot of threads of mtf talking about how they'll still have stereotypically "masculine" interests even though they're full time, on hrt, and all that. is it the same for some ftm? do you have "feminine" interests that you didn't force yourself to give up. if so, what are they? i've found that it's pretty much impossible to just be male or just be female. whether or not people admit it.
uhm...hmm, I don't think I ever did anything that girly to be honest...what constitutes a feminine interest? Looking around my room, gonna have to say no.
i don't think i have any feminine interests that are too rare in men (i mean i don't mind shopping for clothes but my brother likes it much more than i do), but i could give you a looong list of stereotypically male interests that bore me to death.......action movies, cars, soccer and any kind of sports that involves a ball, video games, ...i mean seriously, i slow down and take a look at oldtimer cars and bikes just because i feel some sort of pressure to pretend interest :icon_redface:
oh there's one feminine interest! i love to bake! especially layered cakes and cupcakes.
I like to paint my nails, knit, and take care of my skin using homemade face masks and scrubs like that
Can I get back to you on that? I have to press some flowers in my scrapbook........
I like musical theatre. I'm not sure if that's stereotypically feminine interest or not, but I think girls are more into musical theatre then guys.
beyond shopping, spending your time in the kitchen, and being conscious of your appearance- what counts as 'feminine'?
I played with dolls as a kid and patch my clothes if they rip, but I can't think of anything else that I actually enjoyed..
do you have "feminine" interests
Like law, medicine or becoming Secretary of State? Like your career, your investments, and retirement plan? Like winning Olympic gold medals, or racing at Indy like Danica Patrick? I bet my feminine interests are pretty much in sych with one of my favorite women, so that would be my career, good guitars, hot clothes (preferably in black leather), sold-out concerts, and pussy. Just like Joan Jett.
Quote from: Elijah on April 19, 2011, 08:08:10 PM
I like to paint my nails
THIS. I think I may even paint them more often now than I did before. Shades of blue and purple and green. And ofcourse black. Right now my nails are red and black on one hand and blue, purple and white on the other, but I did that for Day of Silence.
I don't think I have any feminine interests. I thought maybe my love for cats would be considered feminine but I love big cats too. Cats are like my spirit animal and they call to me, and big cats can be masculine. I am actually interested in cars, as well as photography, traveling, camping, the outdoors, nature, art, music, writing, ancient history, science fiction, all could apply to a man so I'm not worried.
I like to crochet, and act and sing and do musical theatre.
I knit. And I love fashion! Uhm... I think I watch TV that is geared more towards women as well. Other than that I don't think so.
I like gardening but my friend says that isn;t feminine enough because it involves digging and sometimes hard labor.
I dance in my pink pointe shoes lol and collect ballet performance dvds.
i can't think of anything too feminine besides some tv shows i watch.. pretty little liars being the main one. my favorite band is tegan and sara, which is hugely popular with lesbians as i'm sure a lot of you know.
besides that nothing is really coming to mind. when i was little i played with barbies and i carried my cabbage patch doll around religiously. but i did typical 'boy' activities too. i don't think childhood fun really is gendered though.
Quote from: tekla on April 19, 2011, 08:36:05 PM
do you have "feminine" interests
Like law, medicine or becoming Secretary of State? Like your career, your investments, and retirement plan? Like winning Olympic gold medals, or racing at Indy like Danica Patrick? I bet my feminine interests are pretty much in sych with one of my favorite women, so that would be my career, good guitars, hot clothes (preferably in black leather), sold-out concerts, and pussy. Just like Joan Jett.
it's open to interpretation. i hear lots of mtf and cisgendered females alike that admit to having a bit of a masculine side. males, i don't think i ever heard them admit to something like that, but obviously there are some ftm on here that don't try to stay in a masculine shell.
I like to look fresh, so i love shopping for clothes. thats about the extent of it, that i can think of.
I love crafts of all types and some of those fall into the traditionally feminine category...sewing, beading, scrapbooking, designing fashions. Although now that I think about it, there's lots of guys who are fashion designers.
I also collect My Little Ponies but there's other guys out there that do that too and with the new My Little Pony show that's come out this year, huge numbers of guys have become fans.
I do like shopping. It's like therapy for me. And I like cooking but there's lots of chefs/cooks that are guys.
Some of my interests that lean more toward the traditionally masculine...video games, programming, sword-fighting. What can I say, I'm a geek. 8)
I have an equal amount of hobbies associated with both sexes I think. My more 'feminine' ones would be crocheting, beading and making jewelery, and making all kinds of desserts.
I like the new My Little Pony show, but so does all the other guys in class. I read a lot, some consider that feminine (currently reading: Perumov's sequel to the LoTR trilogy, the Dresden Files books, Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser). I like to play video games, but not shooters and übermasculine stuff like Gears of War. I like comic books as well, and some anime and manga.
I dunno if my interests are manly or not.
Painting my nails and shoes are two that have surfaced lately.
I've been painting my nails more often now that I'm out to myself, but now it's usually in multiple, flamboyant colors. And I love animals, especially cute ones, but I hesitate to say that's a gender thing because I've known so many boys who love animals too. Compared to most girls, I could care less about clothes; my female family members constantly bemoan my lack of interest (and on a side note, do any of your family members "reassure" you that you'll grow out of your tomboyish phase and want to be a feminine woman and marry? they are NOT reassuring me >:-) ) but for a guy, I spend enough time shopping that I'm sure some ignorant people would label me as gay (which i am) just because I care more than they do. And the extent to which they care is arbitrary too. At my tech school, I know girls who dress and groom themselves like the guy who lives off of mt dew in his mom's basement playing WoW because they do play WoW all day by themselves in their dorm rooms. And I have male, artist friends who care more about their image than many girls I know, and who love beauty and aren't at all afraid to cry or show sensitivity. Of course, that's far more ->-bleeped-<-ing manly than pretending not to feel because you're AFRAID that someone (re: you) won't think you're masculine enough, and therefore might be gay (oh, the horrors! ::) )
I agree with Tekla. When I think about it many of the women I know do things that are more stereotypically masculine than the things my male friends do and vice versa in some cases. It seems to me that gender differences are more apparent when you look at how a person does whatever they're doing rather than just judging activities to be masculine or feminine. And even then, we're still individuals with a lot factors unrelated to gender which affect how we think and act. For example, when I was little I played with the barbies my mom bought for me all the time. They built scout ships and explored distant galaxies and civilizations while occasionally teleporting back to their mansion where the Spice Girls performed concerts on the edge of their plastic swimming pool that would turn into the site of a massive orgy as night approached. I was obsessed with science fiction, pop music, and sex. What's so gendered about that?
Quote from: FinnBear on April 19, 2011, 09:20:13 PM
I knit. And I love fashion! Uhm... I think I watch TV that is geared more towards women as well. Other than that I don't think so.
I knit too... find it fun.
I guess I enjoy cooking and baking, but that's becoming more and more an acceptable bloke thing - a good cis guy friend of mine bakes like no tomorrow. I can't think of any particularly feminine things I do, my hobbies are generally things dominated by men (juggling, computers) and I was never into crafts or artistic things. But it's not the 1920s anymore, there aren't many things that are considered really strange for either gender to do, I think.
Quote from: PixieBoy on April 20, 2011, 02:39:52 AM
I like to play video games, but not shooters and übermasculine stuff like Gears of War.
Oh, but the ubermasculine games are the best. I love the shooters, but I don't play much multiplayer because I don't like most online gaming communities. Sadly, the games are much better than the types of people who typically play them. Still, I love singleplayer shooters. My favorites are
Warning: Forever and
Gradius V (the Gradius games are like drugs to hardcore gamers)
Most of the games I play are too "hard and fast" for my friends. I normally don't play fighting/racing/shootemup games on multiplayer. We play a lot of action/adventure games instead. One of my favorites is the Champions of Norrath series. It has some good fighting action, but it's also got great visual design elements. I like to collect armor sets. That way I can kick butt, and look good while doing it! It's like having a virtual dress-up doll who can wield a huge sword.
I like the sillier fare, such as the Fable series, and also point-and-click adventure games. I guess I'm the rpg type of person, and I like the slow pace that games like Myst have. You need to use your brain (and also take notes; everything could be a clue or useful!), not your button-mashing reflexes. I also like Bayonetta, not that I actually do know how to play it, but because I like all the pretty colours, amazingly weird enemies/enviroments/contents, and because I want to know how they can top the previous moment (so far, they've always been able to). I'm currently really, REALLY looking forward to Alice: Madness Returns, the sequel to American McGee's Alice.
Do you think you'd be able to get into the two Chronicles of Riddick games (Escape from Butcher Bay and Dark Athena), Very Gnawty? They're shooters, pretty cool games actually. Singleplayer shooters with a multiplayer mode. Cool stories and characters as well.
oh, another thing would be my interest in babies. i take to them like women tend to.
hmmm well I love animals (especially domestic cats!) and sometimes enjoy a good shop and making nice desserts/ cooking. also, addicted to a few soaps on TV.
I feel this is balanced out by my love of all things transport; planes/boats/trains/buses/cars/coaches/motorbikes/helicopters...you name it, I love it! :p
I also love football (I'm from the UK so not American football, I think you guys call it soccer?) and watching snooker and varous other sport things on TV
I love anything to do with police/armed forces and will sit on google images for ages looking at different weapons and police/military vehicles
I love paintballing and will hire a bigger gun than is given out.
I also gain great satisfaction from fixing things no matter how small.
um, yeh, so make of that what you will!
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I like to knit, I like gardening which is sometimes considered feminine and I like soft toys. I can't think of anything else but i'm sure I must have more. Since being on T i've been able to accept my feminine side, before it made me feel a dysphoric.
Yes, I love painting my nails, and doing anything artsy..I also love shopping for new clothes.
Alas, I do.
I'm a fan of some pretty crazy shoujo manga, I refuse to give up my stuffed animal and plushie collection, I have a thing for make-up, hair, fashion, and crafty things. I like making jewelry out of metal and clay. I also listen to quite a few girl-bands and singers that most guy's would rather cut their ears off than listen too. I also like baking and shopping. Surprisingly enough, I hate sports =___=; which is why my entire neighborhood is convinced that I'm no more of a man than Lady Gaga is.
Baking is a passion of mine and intend to go to schooling to become a pastry chef. I also enjoy gardening, particularly flower gardening. I have a deep appreciation for things that are pretty.
it's not so much an interest, but I'm a sucker for animals..when animals die in movies, I'm beyond offended/upset :P
that in itself is not girly, but my emotional response surely is
My motorcycle interests have shifted. Much more interested in light 'chuckable' SuperMoto and Streetfighter style bikes than custom/cruiser types. Scooters are cute too, as long as they have lots of performance. ???
Quote from: Yakshini on April 21, 2011, 07:20:26 PM
Baking is a passion of mine and intend to go to schooling to become a pastry chef. I also enjoy gardening, particularly flower gardening. I have a deep appreciation for things that are pretty.
me too - i love pretty things. And vintage things, decorating, collecting, nice restaurants, cuddling, fashion (things i consider to fall into the "pretty" category)
I picked out the bedspread for the apartment my gf and I have together - it's white with black and grey "vintage flower" prints. sheets are dark grey.. I would say it is pretty feminine but we love it and it totally fits us.
Interestingly, most of the things I like are feminine but also, most of the things I dislike are also feminine. I pretty much like and dislike equal amounts of masculine things. (if that makes sense)
Let's see... stereotypical female interests...
I like to bake (and cook). I always bake a birthday cake for my dad, and then I make him pick a theme for it so I can frost it with a cool design. My dad bakes too, though, so I think I got it from him and my mom both.
I love vampire novels. I'm asexual and aromantic, so not romantic vampire novels, mind you. I like the modern style vampire; some horror, some sensuality, but no romance or sex. But anyway, because of the Twilight craze, vampire novels are kinda considered a stereotypically female interest now, which pisses me off a little bit.
I watch anime and read manga, and I have watched some shoujo anime and read some shoujo manga before. Not my favorite genre of anime/manga, but there are some good ones (i.e. I liked Vampire Knight, Ouran High School Host Club, Princess Tutu, etc.)
I cosplay. Making costumes and wearing them to cons and stuff is really fun, especially when people know who you are and randomly come up to you and start rambling about what anime/manga/video game you're from. I can sew, so I make my costumes myself, and I do other sewing projects; for example, I made a bunch of armbands for my friends to wear on the Day of Silence.
I'm okay with saying I find something beautiful; i.e. music or a picture or something.
I guess I don't really care if people think things that I like are "girly". Luckily, I have somewhat mature male friends, and they (for the most part) understand that guys can enjoy these things too. But there you are; my stereotypically female interests.
I never noticed any of my feminine interests until I was on T and living full-time as an FTM. I realized that my feminine side sometimes stands out a lot whereas when I lived as a woman my masculinity was more dominant.
I like musicals, or even 'feminine' songs - if that makes sense.
Some shows I watch are more targeted towards women like Teen Mom, or 16 and Pregnant, I even will watch Hannah Montana if it is on - but that is something I obviously never admit to people because usually there is something socially off about a 23-year-old guy who watches that. That being said my girlfriend and her roommates were the ones who would watch it all the time that got me started otherwise I never would have.
Also, whenever I see a cute little animal I go "AwwWWWW!" and it's really embarrassing, but oh well.
Other than that, I can't bake, suck at crafts, and never was interested in make- up. But I also hate sports, don't understand cars, and don't care to build things.
I wouldn't sweat on it Jay. When my daughter was in Year 12 at High School a lot of the girls were big fans of the TV show "Saddle Club", about a riding academy. It turned out all the guys in the class watched it just as much. Same thing with the "Daria" cartoon.
I like flowers. Right now, as I'm typing this, I'm sitting next to my potted Mums. XD
I also like to sew and make plushies- for my girlfriend's birthday last year, I made her a Dr. Who (David Tennant) Plushie and I've made a few costumes in the past. I also own my own sewing machine (Oddly enough, my Dad taught me how to use it! :D).
I like to bake even though I've seemed to lost my touch. OTL My cakes used to be awesome, but now they are horrible.
I like /some/ romantic comedies and with some other movies/television shows, I can get emotional (example: "Doomsday" Episode of Dr. Who where Rose and The Doctor are separated forever, I cried buckets). >>
That's really all I can think of right now. P:
I've no idea.
I enjoy gardening but that's always been something men in my family have done... my uncle gardens, my dad gardens, my grandfather used to garden. I've always wondered if it'd be considered feminine though.
I can't cook, I don't like it. I hate shopping.
I always wondered if the fact that I listened to a lot of female artists was possibly feminine but I don't know, there are lots of good indie female singers.
I do like romantic/comedies but then they kind of bore me with no sex scenes or not enough action, though I used to sit and cry at certain dramatic films, I can't do that anymore and I just find them boring, I can hardly make it through a full movie anymore unless there is some sort of action going on.
I tried learning how to knit...that was an interest of mine, but quickly grew bored of it the moment I picked up a book about it.
So I don't know, I think I lost most of my 'feminine' interests.
I think the only thing people really got on me is my interest in animals and stuffed toys. I got a bed just for my stuffed animals and I can't let a single one go...they also all have names. Though I don't consider that a feminine thing, more of a five year old thing. And my interest in animals...I don't know the men and women in my family aren't really like that so I never had anyone to compare it to. I think I'm just a child at heart and thats where my interests lie. Not in feminine or masculine. Although I do love blood, sex, violence (in movies and video games, not in real life), motorcycles, gross things, dirt and bugs and so on. I also like animals like rats...which I always thought wasn't very feminine at all. I thought it was kind of the opposite since they are rodents and stereotypical feminine interests may be puppies and kittens, rats seem like a guy thing. I also had a thing for frogs and toads and lizards, snakes, and so on. Also I notice that most people who are interested in my sugar glider (which I guess is considered an exotic pet) are guys...soo I don't know
Love the topic though. :)
i like soft things, animals, i also go AAAAWWW at them. can't help it :P i suck at sports and have no interest in watching them either as well as playing them. if this is considered "girly" i like music that has deep meaningful lyrics and more than just electric guitars and drums, though rock bands are awesome too i just can't listen to only one genre. i admit to things upsetting me but maybe that's just maturity and not something that's stereotypically feminine. that's all i can think of.
oh i like making things, painting and such but there are more men out there that are famous for their art than women...
I'll speak baby talk to a dog. That's the only thing I can think of.
Sharky, I do that CONSTANTLY. I'm effing in love with my dogs.
I've got a whole bunch, my friends are always (lovingly) ragging on me about 'em. I'm a cooking fanatic, I'm a complete sucker for anything fluffy and cute, I sew, knit, make messenger bags when I'm bored, I'm a tea freak, I spend entirely too much time watching The Food Network and Animal Planet, and I read entirely too many Poppy Z Brite books.
And I don't give a damn about any of it.
Ive always been classed as a tomboy and always enjoyed video games and wrestling. Maybe that i like to read (murder stories etc.) could be a bit feminine? :-\
My interests pretty much revolve around the shows I watch and the clothes I wear. The clothes def aren't femme, but I do watch Glee (I also download plenty of the music and rock out to it constantly), Pretty Little Liars, Grey's Anatomy, United States of Tara, and follow the Sophie/Sian storyline on the UK's Coronation Street (though these are more 'lesbian' interests I feel like) I also used to watch Secret Life of the American Teenager, 90210, Greek, Gossip Girl, One Tree Hill, Hellcats, Smallville, and Desperate Housewives but then they got boring.
I also like more 'masculine' shows, though, like Sons of Anarchy and Dexter. My brother and I are also making our way through the whole OZ series.
I'm not big on video games, but when I play I like Grand Theft Auto and Need for Speed. I also mess around with The Sims.
I really like cooking/baking. Clothes shopping is fun...I collect asian ball jointed dolls and I like j-dramas and boy bands....