A lot of people say they hate their system and wish they had the right one. I can't say I do though.
The main difference I can think of is the ability to produce sperm. I don't really like want that; I don't want to wake up from a nocturnal emission all sticky and dirty. I don't do sex, so the ability is useless anyway; I want to adopt anyway, breeding has never been in my plans, even as a little kid.
I'm fine with my bottom parts, I don't really care for having a penis or testicles. Testosterone makes periods go away basically, so no problem.
I can still see why a transwoman would want ovaries and such, even though periods are so messy and agonizingly painful. For transmen, I can see it too.
I want a penis, and testicles, but I don't care for the ability to produce children, and once I have a hysto it will be nice to not have to worry about either getting, or making anyone pregnant
i do wish I could ejaculate though
I have to say I wouldn't mind a fully functional penis either. To me, a penis is just an inside-out vagina, and the idea of having an undefined labyrinth of womanly caverns inside me is really creepy. I'd like to be able to see what I've got.
Not to mention I'm very gay, so I find boobs and the works to be revolting, especially on myself.
I try not to care about never having biological babies. Morally, I know it's better to adopt anyways.
I dont want to appear rude. But that seems to me to be a really dumb question... Anyone who is transitioning is of course going to wish for the correct sexual organs. Or maybe I am wrong but I would have thought most M2F women would be maternal. I know I am.
Personally I would loved to have borne children.
I'd willingly sacrifice a small child to have the ability to bear children...of course I may chose not to, but just to have that ability.
oh well, next life maybe.
I'm with Elijah on this one.
Kids well I wanna adopt anyways but I surely do wish I didn't have that awkwardness going on in my briefs.
Quote from: nobody on April 25, 2011, 02:09:59 PM
To me, a penis is just an inside-out vagina, and the idea of having an undefined labyrinth of womanly caverns inside me is really creepy.
this made me laugh out loud. I don't mind the vagina canal that much, but the idea of ovaries and fallopian tubes really repulses me
Quote from: Catherine on April 25, 2011, 02:25:54 PM
I dont want to appear rude. But that seems to me to be a really dumb question... Anyone who is transitioning is of course going to wish for the correct sexual organs. Or maybe I am wrong but I would have thought most M2F women would be maternal. I know I am.
Personally I would loved to have borne children.
I *NEVER* had a maternal instinct. Those types of relations had *NOTHING* to do with my desire for either transition or surgery. I *did* know that I did not want or need what nature had provided. But I also knew that I had no desire to ever have kids and hence had no need to the internal guts normally conferred to women by nature.
And, sadly, shrinks that held positions that the maternal instinct should have been present were a HUGE stumbling block to my efforts to secure HRT in the mid-80's.
I don't mind that I can't have biological kids...but I do wish I could have a penis that could ejaculate.
I would give anything to have the "correct reproductive system"....The ability to create my own children and ejaculate from a "real" penis would be a dream come true
I definitely wish I'd been born with the body that matches my brain (though never vice versa as the thought of spending any more time being physically and socially male repulses me).
The saddest bit for me is the inability to have children. My entire life, even when I dressed totally goth, kids flocked to me and I loved it. I dreamed of some day having a daughter with my blue eyes looking back at me and giggling as we shared time together. But then came years of being severely underweight due to anorexia, which, so I found out when I got a fertility test at the start of HRT, left me infertile.
Now that I know I'll have to adopt, I've thought long and hard about my earlier desire to have my OWN child, and how I'll be just as happy with any child who loves me and sees me as their mother. The love is what matters, not the biology.
I only hope my being trans won't preclude me from adoption, because that would be the ultimate pain. I have very deep maternal instincts, and being born in the right body would have made all of this so straightforward.
I want biological kids more than I want SRS, which I want a lot. In fact, I plan to bank sperm when I turn 18, or sooner if possible. But if I could magically develop female reproductive organs so that I could bare children, then I'd do it, even if I had to go through monthly periods and a very uncomfortable pregnancy. (I say that now..... Lol)
That's just how I feel. The only reason I really want SRS is sex. Since you're asexual and you don't want biological kids, it's understandable.
In a way. What I have doesn't bother me too much as long as nothing's going on down there. I don't particularly care about having the whole male reproductive system, but a set of normal male genitalia would be very nice.
Quote from: Helena on April 25, 2011, 03:30:24 PM
I'd willingly sacrifice a small child to have the ability to bear children...of course I may chose not to, but just to have that ability.
oh well, next life maybe.
This,
Quote from: JungianZoe on April 26, 2011, 03:15:29 AM
I definitely wish I'd been born with the body that matches my brain (though never vice versa as the thought of spending any more time being physically and socially male repulses me).
The saddest bit for me is the inability to have children.
and this.
I'm still sadden every time I think about this and (now) knowing I can never have any children of my own. :'(
It would have saved me a lot of trouble if I'ld have had them already from birth. But for now the sooner the better.
I don't want kids for now, but seen the fact that I can't possibly know what I want in the future, I'll wank in a cup and freeze the hole nastyness just to be on the save side.
Quote from: Ribbons on April 25, 2011, 01:18:44 PM
A lot of people say they hate their system and wish they had the right one. I can't say I do though.
The main difference I can think of is the ability to produce sperm. I don't really like want that; I don't want to wake up from a nocturnal emission all sticky and dirty. I don't do sex, so the ability is useless anyway; I want to adopt anyway, breeding has never been in my plans, even as a little kid.
I'm fine with my bottom parts, I don't really care for having a penis or testicles. Testosterone makes periods go away basically, so no problem.
I can still see why a transwoman would want ovaries and such, even though periods are so messy and agonizingly painful. For transmen, I can see it too.
Dont take this the wrong way, but i just find what you said ironic, you are an FTM, but don't get how FTMs/guys would want male reproductive, having sperm and such, but you do get why MTFs would want the female reproductive, with periods and all. Its just ironic to me lol, as an FTM i can never imagine why anyone would want the female reproductive, but would totally get why anyone would want a male one. Heck I want it, so i know how it feels. Not MTF so its hard for me to get the reverse.
I want it not for the sake of reproducing, not really much into kids, but for the sake of experiencing what other guys have. Something to feel connected with other men. No having to go through the BS someone will find out there is nothing there. Its just part of my "complete" body, that I wish I had, to feel whole and complete.
Also it would make things less akward with dealing with sexual partners. :P
To each is own. i would love to be able to bare children. i think birth is beautiful. all of it, to conceiving.
While I've met other M2Fs who have broken down in tears because they can't bear children, I have to say I've never had the desire.
Now, I will say that post - everything I'm much better around kids, but more in an Auntie Nicole, distant kinda way. And usually just for girls, LOL.
Hell no! I want to spread my non-existent seed! :laugh: So, yes, I want the correct reproductive system.
My mom was unable to have children of her own, so she and dad adopted my sis and I. I'd decided early on if I were to ever had children I would adopt too. My own personal take on it is that there are enough people in the world already so it won't miss any that I might produce naturally, but there are plenty of children in need of a loving home and I might be able to make a difference there.
So that being said, even though I'd probably feel the same way if I'd been born with plumbing that matched my brain, I think I'd still adopt. I do wish I'd been born with that plumbing even seeing what my sister went through monthly. (though I don't mind skipping *that* part truth be told).
oh, and the comment about "nocturnal emissions" made me pause and think a little because in 40 some odd years I've never had a wet dream or any such emissions, so I have no experiencial basis to know if it's good or bad. I don't know what that says about me though. :P
I used to be all maternal, babysat allot as a teen and people told me how natural I would be as a parent. However bitterness for having to settle for fake equipment and never ever being able to have a child screwed with my head allot. Zero remorse though for my transitions and surgery; how could I feel remorse for a non-entity. Its like crying over losing fake money.
I pretty much shoved off all my irresponsible breeder friends and crying myself to sleep is a once monthly thing at most now and was pretty much every night after I had my infertility rubbed in my face. Think it might have something to do with the fact that I always knew deep inside that it was near 100% I was born sterile and you always want what you don't have I guess on such matters.
Adoption has never had any appeal for me either, its always felt to me like a ring of desperate people being taken advantage of by an outside power. My fiancé stated already he has no interest in paying to steward someone else kid, and with in these days of fully open only adoptions I see his viewpoint well.
I already wake up sticky and dirty - the female organs are way messier than male ones can possibly dream of being in the worst throes of pubescent obnoxiousness.
I don't care all that much about being fertile as male, since I know I wouldn't be able to reproduce with my preferred partners anyway. But I really, really want the correct plumbing. I want to be able to get a ->-bleeped-<- without having to explain my anatomy. I want to get rid of the painful exposed nerve endings in my current genitalia that are supposed to be sealed up and protected inside. I want my balls - I've been missing them ever since I can remember. I want to be able to ejaculate.
I can't imagine, as a guy, not wanting those things. I can't imagine being OK with the female parts. Just on a purely physical level, they feel wrong to me. I recognize that some trans guys feel differently, but i can't pretend to understand.
I hate having male parts I hate having to live with those two organs that mutilated me and tore a chunk of my life away. I hate putting on certain clothes and seeing the bulge I hate it when I'm flirting with someone and suddenly I have to run away because I'm a freak and they wouldn't understand. I hate having to take injections because I don't have ovaries just another thing that makes me feel like a freak.
The infertility certainly stings abit it makes me sigh and look down knowing that I had to sacrifice any hope of having a family of my own in order to survive that nightmare. It's also the knowing it adds another layer of long term relationship difficulty I know I can't ever have a kid. And even If I would be fine living with adoption would a hypothetical partner?