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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: N.Chaos on May 14, 2011, 01:30:11 AM

Title: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: N.Chaos on May 14, 2011, 01:30:11 AM
(If this is in the wrong area I'm sorry, I'm kind of out of it at the moment)

I've wanted to see this movie since it first came out, I've always been a huge Robin Williams fan. Ben bought it yesterday and we sat down to watch it, not expecting to sob, and definitely not expecting for it to hit home so closely.

If you've never seen it, and plan to, don't watch the video because its' from the very end (Or at least, don't watch the whole thing). Ben suggested I post this scene on here though, because it hit me. It summed up how I felt perfectly. the majority of the movie did honestly, but the speech bit in particular...it was weird. Of all the things that'd be relevant to how it feels being trans, I never expect it to be a sci-fi movie. That whole "need to be human" thing, that whole...immersion in something you want to be part of so badly, knowing that you might never have that...makes me realize why I've always been so intrigued and attracted to androids and such. Explains why Data is my favorite character off Star Trek too, heh (That, and Brent Spiner looks a lot like my boyfriend lol).

So anyway, here's the clip. Made me cry. I was curious to see what you all thought of it.

http://youtu.be/G1Tq4NDanc8 (http://youtu.be/G1Tq4NDanc8)
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: N.Chaos on May 14, 2011, 02:35:02 AM
It's weird, isn't it? I cried so damn hard, which pissed me off. I loved it, I think it was an exceptionally good movie but I don't think I'll be watching it again anytime soon. It was kind of funny, and cute, how hard Ben "oh sh**"d when I pointed out how closely it related to the trans situation.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: VeryGnawty on May 14, 2011, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: N.Chaos on May 14, 2011, 01:30:11 AMExplains why Data is my favorite character off Star Trek

That's just because Brent Spiner is full of awesome.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: Sarah B on May 14, 2011, 06:11:12 PM
The movie 'The Bicentennial Man' was based on the book 'The Bicentennial Man' by Isaac Asimov  and was specifically written for the celebration of 200 years since the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776.

The Bicentennial Man was a novella story and formed part of the Robot Series.  Isaac Asimov was and still is one of  my all time favourite authors as I grew up.  The movie is the only one that closely depicts the feelings and struggles that we go through.

Rest in peace Isaac Asimov, you gave me so much joy in my life.

Kind regards
Sarah B
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: N.Chaos on May 15, 2011, 02:28:42 AM
Quote from: VeryGnawty on May 14, 2011, 03:45:04 PM
That's just because Brent Spiner is full of awesome.

Oh lawdy, it's true. His singing is amazing too <3
Me and The Bennifer are always being big fruity saps, singing "The Very Thought of You" at each other.

@Sarah B, I still need to read some of his work. Ben's a huge fan of his, unfortunately doesn't have any of his books anymore.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: PixieBoy on May 15, 2011, 06:50:12 AM
I bawled my eyes out when watching that film when I was a kid. I guess it hit close to home for me as well.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: VeryGnawty on May 15, 2011, 12:34:11 PM
Quote from: N.Chaos on May 15, 2011, 02:28:42 AM
Oh lawdy, it's true. His singing is amazing too <3

Did you see the episode where Data read the poem that he wrote?  That was like, the funniest scene in TNG.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: N.Chaos on May 17, 2011, 12:42:06 AM
No, not yet, but I can only imagine.I'm only on the 10th episode of the first season unfortunately 'cause we're watching them via youtube.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: Danacee on May 17, 2011, 06:48:52 AM
Bicentennial Man is a terribly underrated movie. Robin Williams seemed to have had a true golden age a decade ago that culminated with 1 hour photo. Not as if that movie is relevant to us but it still is a mesmerizing watch and I don't care who you are or what your life or wants are; it definitely hits a fear of us all.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: N.Chaos on May 18, 2011, 01:19:27 AM
Agh, Robin Williams...he's just amazing.
Ever since I saw "What Dreams May Come" as a kid I realized he's probably one of the most under-appreciated actors ever.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: VeryGnawty on May 18, 2011, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: N.Chaos on May 18, 2011, 01:19:27 AMhe's probably one of the most under-appreciated actors ever.

Awesome guy.  He can do funny/serious/creepy/good/bad.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: some ftm guy on May 18, 2011, 11:25:19 PM
wow i saw this years ago when it was new to video...ya know...vhs tapes. and thought it was good but really long, now i get the identification with it and it's like watching the end to a whole new movie i saw but...didn't see. that made no sense. if i were to sit through the whole thing start to finish now i would probably ball my eyes out too. hey i have Artificial Intelligence. i can watch that!
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: N.Chaos on May 18, 2011, 11:38:15 PM
Quote from: VeryGnawty on May 18, 2011, 08:22:39 PM
Awesome guy.  He can do funny/serious/creepy/good/bad.
I know, right! He's creepy as hell as Lore! I never expected it! I'm so used to adorable, clueless little Data and then BAMF here comes psycho-crazy Lore.

Noah, I've still never seen AI (unfortunately). If it's still there next time I'm at FYE I might pick it up. Your post made sense to me, though.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: Arch on May 18, 2011, 11:54:48 PM
Artificial Intelligence has much to recommend it, but the ending is just ghastly.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: N.Chaos on May 20, 2011, 01:52:15 PM
Er....in which way? Badly done or bad things happening? Bicentennial Man had a pretty horrific second half, it was just depression on top of depression on top of life-crushing emotional "ouch".
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: some ftm guy on May 22, 2011, 11:32:13 PM
i know what Arch means about AI but i don't want to give anything away.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: N.Chaos on May 23, 2011, 10:39:44 AM
Aw, poop. Well that's alright then, I think we're gonna be buying it either this week or next week, so I'll see it soon enough.
Title: Re: Bicentennial Man-Oddly Relevant?
Post by: Da Monkey on August 20, 2011, 03:30:10 AM
I remember seeing this title a while back but didn't want to read into it until I watched this movie again.

I decided to watch it today for the second time, the first time I saw it was in theatres when I was really young. I agree that it is an underrated movie, as well as AI. I didn't cry while watching this one but I can't seem to help it in AI hahah.

I like it because it's shows how someone is 'programmed' to be one way but feels another without it being some joke. People don't understand it but they don't seem to make fun of him either.