Hey there!
Sorry if this topic has been brought up before, but I'm curious to know - how many of you that identify as androgynous intentionally look the part?
By that I don't mean whether or not you have androgynous facial features, body shapes etc. I'm talkin' about the things you can change and modify pretty easily. Your haircut, what kind of clothing you wear, whether or not you choose to wear makeup and so on...
For me... Well, I'm not looking the part yet, since I haven't got a dime :laugh: So, no andro clothes for me yet, unfortunately. Therefore I don't look the part, since I refuse to cut my hair right now :P I wear makeup just as often as I don't wear it. It's pretty 50/50.
So, what about y'all?
Not really.
I suppose my hair is androgynous. I asked for "androgynous, but not butch." :) Sometimes I do the t-shirt and jeans thing, which is pretty androgynous.
Quote from: Jaimey on June 04, 2011, 02:17:32 AM
Sometimes I do the t-shirt and jeans thing, which is pretty androgynous.
Are you implying that there's clothing other than t-shirts and jeans? Oh yeah-- sweatshirts in the winter.
I get my hair cut down to 2 inches then grow it out-- mainly because I hate going into those places. No make-up. I'm not trying to be androgynous, but I'm also not trying not to be.
Hahaha...I often forget there are clothes besides t-shirts and jeans. :laugh:
I also wear Curve for Men cologne. It smells better on me than women's cologne and it just makes me feel good to have a more androgynous smell.
I do wear makeup, but I love men who wear makeup, so it all works out. Especially boys in eyeliner. YUM. I kind of need makeup though. My complexion isn't great and my eyes are small. I gotta play 'em up!
Nope. Not really. I wear mens clothes, I wear women's clothes...and SOMETIMES....I mix them. ;)
Not that you can tell by the picture, but I am becoming more of a WTF with my long hair (and the receding hairline-yuck!), blossoming boobies and long polished nails. The laser hair removal of my dark beard only adds to the femme side. Clothes are whatever makes me feel good at the time (or whatever I have to wear where I'm not "out"). Most folks probably just think I'm a femme gay guy, but put on a cap, and it becomes very hard to tell what pigeonhole to stuff me in
Hopefully I can replace this old picture with something a little more up-to-date...I'll see how many shots it takes to find one that doesn't scare women or small children.
Looks like I'm in the minority here. Most of the time I try my darnedest to look the part. I'm female-bodied, with an overgrown buzz cut, and I tend to dress in a mixture of men's and women's clothing to try and disguise how feminine my body shape is a bit.
Sometimes my intentions are to simply feel comfortable in my body and presentation, sometimes I go a little overboard to confuse people. I consider getting called "sir" and the inevitable double-take an awesome compliment. For me, that's passing.
It's not about fitting a role, but just trying to express myself the best I can for the situation and in the moment. But I'm not an androgyne, so perhaps my point is a little off topic.
I purposely try not to look andro for the exact opposite reasons people try to look andro. I don't like when people don't know what I am it makes me feel ugly. That's ME, I'm not saying its a good thing because it probably isn't. Good as in healthy because I'm not happy or comfortable with the body or mind I was born with I'm actually very UNhappy with it. So unhappy that if there is a spirit or god who made me I hope he's happy because he destroyed my life.
sounds like you should line up a good therapist or a much better one if that is the case.
Ativan
What??? LOL
Happy and content is over rated ...... or a figment .....
Quote from: Kaelin on June 18, 2011, 09:54:52 AM
It's not about fitting a role, but just trying to express myself the best I can for the situation and in the moment.
I'd agree with that.
What does ' express myself ' mean.
all my life i have purposefully chosen clothing thats basically genderless. in fact clothing that goes too far in either direction makes
me somewhat uncomfortable.
What does ' express myself ' mean.
Well I've never been a fan of the whole 'finding myself' school of life. It's seemed to me that life is much more about inventing yourself, creating yourself, than just finding yourself. And part of inventing and creating yourself is figuring out what you have to work with and learning to use that, and when you are applying those 'good parts' of you, (and are using your superpowers for good and not evil) you are a better person and the world is a slightly better place. I think for most people there is something good, and fairly powerful, that they can be. But you have to work for it, and the 'expression' is the work.
I'd say express myself is to portray as authentically as possible, the inside personal self to the outside sociable world.
But then, I also believe that happy and content is both desirable and possible - it's adding interested to that which I find hard.
I just dress in male clothes but i had FFS and electro so i look female but i wear mens clothes. I am also legally female and so is my name well to some people and to others its the male version.. Its about functioning in todays world and that means many many things in my case..
I wear the first thing I find on the floor
Quote from: Juliet on June 22, 2011, 06:31:44 AM
I wear the first thing I find on the floor
hehe me too (except socks, those have to be fresh)
Thanks for the definition of express yourself.
So instead of hidding who/what you are, you want people to see that? That part of you.
Want to be solid and authentic.
Are you saying thats how you become solid and authentic, by showing that part of you.
No, by mediating between in and out as honestly as possible, in all facets, no parts to show or hide - one solid mass.
Expressing yourself is as easy as being honest with yourself.
Everything else is just a facade that we hide behind.
Look around at people. Who looks solid? Why? Honesty. True and naturally derived honesty with yourself.
You shouldn't even be taking this as advice......
But your Facade should at least be translucent.
The less you depend on it the better you will become. At expressing yourself and even more.
for clothes i wear whatever i feel like that day. if it's not in my own wardrobe, i'll find it in my sister's or youngest brother's wardrobe. but i still only have female formal wear
expressing myself is difficult. it would mean i had to be myself, and it's hard to be that around my parents. but if it's people who have never known me as a "girl" it's easier, they'll just take me for what i present myself as unless they're men looking for sex. only thing is i'm often afraid of being too much of myself, not all sides are easily acceptable to other people, so i tend to seek out fora where i'm less likely to be shunned if i happen to be honest about the wrong thing
The need to express myself is what got me thinking seriously about what my gender really is.
Expression remains important. But I have a brake on how fast and how far I change my appearance. I thought it was fear at first -- too chicken to wear skirts in public -- but I'm starting to realize it may be a natural boundary for me, the difference between interdressing in a gender-appropriate way, and crossdressing which I'm not really into. (Though with the right top, I *do* look okay in a long flowy skirt.) It's very much parallel to my realization that I'm nonbinary rather than a fearful would-be MtF.
As important as expression is, the most important change I want for my body isn't to look more androgynous, it's to lose a bunch of weight.
I can get called sir or ma'am on any given day because of my long hair but my physical appearance isn't really androgynous. I dress plainly.
I present as me, full beard long hair some times with lipstick and/or eye shadow alway wearing female clothes dont go anywhere without breast forms in place I get comments regulary look" there's the LadyMan", "are you a boy or girl?" o I present full time as M2?/ M2"What the F"
MtoK *male to kinkly* It sounds to me like you are, in your area, winning the battle for Androgyn's and Transgenders to boot.
I think people will look back someday and talk about the Androgyn with a beard that refused to be intimidated by binary thinking.
Of course non-binary will be common and people won't think twice about it anymore, but they will remember Kinkly, who was the first.
There should be a good 'round the bar song that people will occasionally sing, then raise their mugs and glasses in a salute to you.
Genderqueer here 8D haa.
I don't think I intentionally try to look andro. I've got a feminine/androgynous face, so that makes it pretty easy. o.o All my shirts are designed to hide my curves, but I also love "cute" clothes.
I don't really try hard to look one way or the other. I wear what I'm comfortable in. -shrug- hah.