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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Rabbit on June 05, 2011, 02:40:58 AM

Title: Trans in history? (art)
Post by: Rabbit on June 05, 2011, 02:40:58 AM
So
Title: Re: Trans in history? (art)
Post by: Lisbeth on June 05, 2011, 08:38:29 AM
I'm seriously not seeing what's trans in that picture. There have been plenty of artists who have produced androgynous works, but I don't know of any trans other than to document trans-people of the artist's time.

I suppose you could be saying that the figure has a very masculine face, but quite frankly, many women have masculine faces. In our society we have been lead to not notice that, with the hyper-feminine models of the media.
Title: Re: Trans in history? (art)
Post by: Padma on June 05, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
If you look at a lot of Renaissance and Greek sculpture, many of their statues of women are basically male figures with boobs slapped on them, because they didn't study the female form.
Title: Re: Trans in history? (art)
Post by: gennee on June 05, 2011, 12:54:47 PM
From what I have read about Greek sculpture it seems that the male form was valued. I also come away with the thought that androgyny may have been common in art, sculture, and life in general in ancient Greek. The same could be said about many cultures at that time.

Gennee


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Title: Re: Trans in history? (art)
Post by: Mika on June 05, 2011, 08:00:14 PM
Sculptural representations of Eros and Hermaphrodites come to mind, as others have mentioned. I wish I had my copy of Trangender Warriors with me, it had trans related art throughout, but I can't think of any of the titles to look it up /grrrrr
Title: Re: Trans in history? (art)
Post by: Padma on June 06, 2011, 12:25:18 PM
I just came across this "souvenir from Italy" photo which seemed weirdly relevant to this thread :).

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yoxi.net%2Fanitya%2Fa-present-from-Italy.jpg&hash=6caf8c081972af921b50785bb7549d327794a813)
Title: Re: Trans in history? (art)
Post by: MorganIsMyNameO on June 06, 2011, 12:55:27 PM
Not sculpture, but in Plato's Symposium Aristophanes references men, women, and a third gender who are both male and female.