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Am I passable enough to go full-time female?

Started by LittleWitchGirl96, June 10, 2017, 03:13:10 PM

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Ritana

Hrt will redistribute fat around your face making your cheeks fuller and skin softer.
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Spunky Brewster

Quote from: ElizabethK on June 10, 2017, 06:22:07 PM
IMHO Passing happens between the ears or not at all. You don't pass until you think you do no matter what anyone tells you. I see thread after thread from beautiful girls asking if they pass....

When you ask the question what is it you are asking? Passing for me may mean a different thing for you...there are various forms of passing from over the phone to a Dr's office. Where is it you want to be?

Many of these threads involve gorgeous girls who just can't see it or have a small imperfection that they feel ruins every chance they ever had to pass. However there are also people here who are convinced they don't just pass but are glamourous...not how I would describe them. So when I say passing happens between the ears what I mean is that you have to have a certain amount of self acceptance in the first place. When you are satisfied you have decided you pass then you will ....

I accept myself just fine. I have a long-term--four years!!--Boyfriend who loves me, my doctor forgets my status and asks about periods, I have never not passed for over three years and started passing within 60 days. But, yet, sometimes I think I don't pass.

I do believe confidence and acceptance goes a long way. But, I have a 34C-27-35, I'm 5'5 and 130 lbs, and I'm cute, rapidly approaching pretty. My voice, bleh, but still if I have to pass as my non name-changed self, they always ask for me. I have to deepen my voice and it still doesn't work, meaning I pass.

The OP and everyone else should realize transition takes years. I get hit on all the time or it feels that way and if I look a guy in they eyes, he always, always says "hi." But, it's hard to see yourself. Its not about acceptance so much that it's hard to live 20, 30 years in a body and then really see these changes. Also, my body really filled out in the last 100 months. So, any worries the OP has about passing and body, time will fix it.

My sitch my be a little non-reg since I had trouble passing as a boy before transition. IMO, the OP will pass just fine. With the right hair, she could pass right now and could easily go full-time. But, it's a drastic change so I would take baby steps. It sounds great but what if you get clocked by some troglodyte and he goes full Trump and tweets the ">-bleeped-<" he clocked; to make matters worse, he was your best friend.

I may never get clocked and may have an awesome BF (future hubby?! +fingers crossed+) but I lost every friend and the ones who wanted to hang with me after were all people who just wanted to see "it." It meaning my drastic transition. It was drastic and I still can't believe HRT worked that way. The one thing I do know is that I tried to go full-time before I was ready, I may have ran back into the closet only to emerge 40 years later when I hit 70. I'm sure a lot of older trans peeps would have transitioned earlier but times were different. But rememer: they aint great now either. But you will pass, just do it when you know your ready. Also, even though I dissected the post I quoted, she had a lot of very excellent advice.
HRT start: 03.02.2013. GRS (and BA) date: 9.13.2017.

* Thanks Obama! Seriously, without him (and PA Gov. Wolf!) and expanded Medicaid, I would never accumulated the $30,000 needed to to afford surgery.
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LittleWitchGirl96

Quote from: Spunky Brewster on June 11, 2017, 04:35:46 PM
I accept myself just fine. I have a long-term--four years!!--Boyfriend who loves me, my doctor forgets my status and asks about periods, I have never not passed for over three years and started passing within 60 days. But, yet, sometimes I think I don't pass.

I do believe confidence and acceptance goes a long way. But, I have a 34C-27-35, I'm 5'5 and 130 lbs, and I'm cute, rapidly approaching pretty. My voice, bleh, but still if I have to pass as my non name-changed self, they always ask for me. I have to deepen my voice and it still doesn't work, meaning I pass.

The OP and everyone else should realize transition takes years. I get hit on all the time or it feels that way and if I look a guy in they eyes, he always, always says "hi." But, it's hard to see yourself. Its not about acceptance so much that it's hard to live 20, 30 years in a body and then really see these changes. Also, my body really filled out in the last 100 months. So, any worries the OP has about passing and body, time will fix it.

My sitch my be a little non-reg since I had trouble passing as a boy before transition. IMO, the OP will pass just fine. With the right hair, she could pass right now and could easily go full-time. But, it's a drastic change so I would take baby steps. It sounds great but what if you get clocked by some troglodyte and he goes full Trump and tweets the ">-bleeped-<" he clocked; to make matters worse, he was your best friend.

I may never get clocked and may have an awesome BF (future hubby?! +fingers crossed+) but I lost every friend and the ones who wanted to hang with me after were all people who just wanted to see "it." It meaning my drastic transition. It was drastic and I still can't believe HRT worked that way. The one thing I do know is that I tried to go full-time before I was ready, I may have ran back into the closet only to emerge 40 years later when I hit 70. I'm sure a lot of older trans peeps would have transitioned earlier but times were different. But rememer: they aint great now either. But you will pass, just do it when you know your ready. Also, even though I dissected the post I quoted, she had a lot of very excellent advice.

Can't thank you enough for the in-depth answer and advice, it helped clear things up for me a lot and I appreciate it! I think you're definitely right that I need to start going full-time when I'm ready, which might not be just yet, I definitely have some studying of female mannerisms and mastering of all that stuff to do first. Thank you!!
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Charlie Nicki

Latina :) I speak Spanish, English and a bit of Portuguese.
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Ejo

I consider myself pretty good at detecting trans people, but I think that you would pass 99% of the time. Particularly with a dress. I doubt many, if any people would give you that stare!
"The secret of contentment is knowing how to enjoy what you have, and to be able to lose all desire for things beyond your reach."
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p

"I feel like I'm going to explode if I don't start living as my true self right now."

This sentence is more important than the pictures or being passable. You know what you want to do--give yourself permission to live your dream! Big hugs!
Patti

Something is off - 2016-17
Out to husband - 2/14/17
Full-time - 3/9/17
HRT - 6/14/17
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Julia1996

Hi. I really studied your pictures and I read everyone's critiques. Everyone has a different idea of passability and beauty. In my opinion you look great. I think you are passable and very pretty. When I look at how passable a girl is I study her face and try to picture her as a boy. Looking at your picture I couldn't see any boy in you. The only thing I suggest is a better wig. I'm not saying your wig is like bad or anything. But I would clock it as a wig. But I cut hair so that's just me. What's your real hair like? Is it like really short or something? Anyway I think you look great. And after longer on estrogen you're going to look even better.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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LittleWitchGirl96

Quote from: Julia1996 on June 12, 2017, 02:04:30 PM
Hi. I really studied your pictures and I read everyone's critiques. Everyone has a different idea of passability and beauty. In my opinion you look great. I think you are passable and very pretty. When I look at how passable a girl is I study her face and try to picture her as a boy. Looking at your picture I couldn't see any boy in you. The only thing I suggest is a better wig. I'm not saying your wig is like bad or anything. But I would clock it as a wig. But I cut hair so that's just me. What's your real hair like? Is it like really short or something? Anyway I think you look great. And after longer on estrogen you're going to look even better.
Well thank you! I'm glad to hear. I definitely need a new, more realistic wig for sure. My real hair right now could be pulled off as female with pixie cut, I just personally don't like that look and have always wanted long hair, so until it's long enough, wig it is :/
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LittleWitchGirl96

Quote from: p on June 12, 2017, 12:00:34 PM
"I feel like I'm going to explode if I don't start living as my true self right now."

This sentence is more important than the pictures or being passable. You know what you want to do--give yourself permission to live your dream! Big hugs!
Very true!
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Spunky Brewster

Quote from: LittleWitchGirl96 on June 12, 2017, 04:05:35 PM
Well thank you! I'm glad to hear. I definitely need a new, more realistic wig for sure. My real hair right now could be pulled off as female with pixie cut, I just personally don't like that look and have always wanted long hair, so until it's long enough, wig it is :/

You may have to get a pixie until you can grow your hair out which takes foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I have had one hair cut with some trims done by yours truly and my hair is two inches past my shoulders. This is three and a half years. The one hair cut prolly took three inches off. So, that set me back. Now, I can put it up in a really nice bun and it keeps the hair off my face. I have a very round face with no brow bossing, so I don't have bangs. Though, I am thinking of getting it styled soon. Just an FYI. I have never been a wig person; plus, unless you spend $500 or so, you prolly won't get a great wig. I don't really know though, so take that figure with two grains of sulk. JK salt
HRT start: 03.02.2013. GRS (and BA) date: 9.13.2017.

* Thanks Obama! Seriously, without him (and PA Gov. Wolf!) and expanded Medicaid, I would never accumulated the $30,000 needed to to afford surgery.
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EdLynn

VERY passable!

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Julia1996

Quote from: Spunky Brewster on June 12, 2017, 04:23:16 PM
You may have to get a pixie until you can grow your hair out which takes foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I have had one hair cut with some trims done by yours truly and my hair is two inches past my shoulders. This is three and a half years. The one hair cut prolly took three inches off. So, that set me back. Now, I can put it up in a really nice bun and it keeps the hair off my face. I have a very round face with no brow bossing, so I don't have bangs. Though, I am thinking of getting it styled soon. Just an FYI. I have never been a wig person; plus, unless you spend $500 or so, you prolly won't get a great wig. I don't really know though, so take that figure with two grains of sulk. JK salt

When you are trying to grow out your hair keep the ends trimmed. Once your ends split and fray the keep splitting.  There is no use having long hair if its frayed and nappy. Human hair wigs are totally expensive. One of my clients had cancer and she used her own hair to make a wig . It cost her $600.00 and that was with using her own hair.
Julia


Born 1998
Started hrt 2015
SRS done 5/21/2018
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RobynD

You're absolutely beautiful. Passing is a state of mind and more dependent on your own attitude than external people. Your hair will grow and a pixie could certainly work until then in my opinion, but if you don't like that option, go for a wig. Congrats on becoming your genuine self.


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Natg813

Don't make a decision like full time be based on passing. That's an internal decision based on being who you are. I've seen girls on hormones for 10 + years who do not pass . Some who pass before hormones . You be you.


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andreapdenver

Agree that it's more about how you view and carry yourself. Women come in all shapes and sizes.  You do you and walk the walk with confidence and you'll fit in more every day.  It's about the journey.


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LizK

Quote from: Natg813 on June 14, 2017, 02:43:49 PM
Don't make a decision like full time be based on passing. That's an internal decision based on being who you are. I've seen girls on hormones for 10 + years who do not pass . Some who pass before hormones . You be you.


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Hi Natg813

Welcome to Susan's. I hope you enjoy your time here.

I agree with you entirely...passing is first accomplished internally, you can physically pass by any number of standards but until you accept this is the case it doesn't matter how good you look in the eyes of others.

So you are able to get the very best from being here there are a couple of links we give to all our new members

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Regards
ElizabethK
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Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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