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Started by Lori Dee, February 03, 2025, 02:52:58 PM

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Sephirah

I am very conflicted about this, honestly. The thing is, Trump is just doing overtly what the CIA and DEA have been doing in many South American countries, covertly, for well over 40 years. He just wants the world to know what he's doing because the guy thinks he can do no wrong. It's a show of machismo and bravado because that is Trump's MO. I think he's compensating for something.

Pablo Escobar, in Colombia back in the 80s and 90s, he literally got to build his own prison when he "surrendered" to the Colombian Government so that he wouldn't be extradited to the US. It was more like a holiday camp and he made more money then than he ever did when he was a free man.

My best friend is Colombian and I know quite intimately how horrific the cartels can be, and how they affect innocent people wanting to live their lives. In both North and South America. She and her family fled to the UK to avoid a literal death sentence from the drug cartels there. It is very, very hard for me to have sympathy for these people. And, honestly, I might do the same in Trump's position.

You are right, though. You have to give everyone the same rights. Even if they have more money than most moderate sized countries and can dodge the law with an army of lawyers. Sometimes the law doesn't work. It can be manipulated and corrupted and abused. My head knows it's wrong, but my heart kind of doesn't. That's my own bias though. The drug trade has ruined probably more lives than all the wars ever fought. It is an insidious thing that creeps into the bones of a country. Putrefying everything.

Trump is trying to do what Clinton, HW Bush and Regan tried to do, only he isn't trying to do it in secret.
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Dear Lori and Sephirah;
Trump is not the only President that has taken military actions to kill non-combatants including American citizens that did not have a trial or legal recourse.  Presidents Bush and also Obama directed deadly "DRONE" air strikes that much exceeded what President Trump has done with the blowing up of the DRUG BOATS in the Caribbean coming from Venezuela.
    https://www.newsweek.com/strikes-during-obamas-presidency-killed-many-117-civilians-545080 🔗

While this was happening I did not see or hear the negative outcry that we are seeing and hearing about regarding Trump's actions of blowing up the Drug Boats.

In my opinion all of these actions by all of the Presidents... Bush, Obama, and Trump are justified and protecting America's interests in keeping our country safe from drugs and from terrorism.
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Quote from: Sephirah on Yesterday at 07:41:18 PMYou are right, though. You have to give everyone the same rights.

That is my main point.

The "War on Drugs" has been going on for about a century. Nobody is going to win. As long as people want drugs and are willing to pay for them, they will find a way in. And yet, we are told that the borders are closed and no one is getting in. So, how are they bringing drugs in by boat?

There are a lot of causes that governments throw a ton of money and manpower at, and never solve the problem. This action by Trump is not about drugs. The consensus in the international community is that the goal is regime change in Venezuela, with the "side effect" of access to the world's richest oil reserves.

When a dictator is allowed to violate their own laws and Constitutional rights for any reason, that opens a loophole. If he can get away with murder (over 40 people now) with the made-up justification that they are terrorists, that is a problem. He has submitted no evidence publicly to show they were drug traffickers. Innocent until proven guilty.

Earlier, I reported that he had accused various "radical left" advocacy groups, including lawyers, of supporting terrorism because they supported LGBTQ advocacy groups. If no one stops him now, who will stop him when he starts executing lawyers because of the people they defended in court? Who will stop him when he declares open season on any of us?

That may seem extreme, but before he was elected, I thought that his threats against transgender people were extreme. I was convinced that his Executive Orders would be ruled illegal and quashed.

And yet, here we are.

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Sephirah

"Nothing is fool-proof to a talented fool".

You are right, I don't think the war on drugs is a war that can be won. As long as people are willing to pay extreme amounts of money for a quick fix. People will always find a way. It has been, and will always be so. And yeah it can be used as an excuse to just bomb the stuffing out of somewhere. Someone needs to invent something that stops people's addictive tendencies. That would kill the whole deal overnight.

It would not surprise me if it was a smokescreen, honestly. Again... this is nothing new. Colombia, Mexico... Presidents who "get on well" with the US are always more valuable than those who don't. It's been that way for a long, long time. There is sometimes a lot of puppeteering goes on. Often gathering the ire of the people who feel like they don't really have a say.

But I also agree with you, Danielle. There's a saying: "Evil triumphs when good does nothing." I guess you have to define both but you get my point. I recently watched a TV show called "Narcos". Which kind of explains some of what my friend has been telling me for years. Different groups of people don't play by the same rules. If someone wants to be a nasty, greedy megalomaniac, they don't care about gentlemanly agreements. Or morality. Because some folks see something as "right"... it means nothing when the people you're trying to deal with don't even care about it. They aren't reading from the same rulebook, and if you try and apply your own standards to it, you're only ever going to be chasing an angry dragon, as it were.

There is kind of a case for saying "If you want to wrestle a pig, you have to get in the mud."

If this is about drugs then... okay. IF that's what it is. If it isn't then it will come out. History will judge him. Trump's whole mindset about trans folks, I think the guy is a lunatic. As unhinged as a post-apocalyptic doorframe. But I don't want to equate them to the same thing. That's a slippery slope argument. And while I get where you're coming from... I think you have to take each thing as its own thing.

I honestly think the rest of the world is just trying to weather the storm for another few years until he literally can't get back in charge of anything, while trying to deal with the fallout from it. Namely wannabe groups trying to do the same thing.

The important thing here isn't what Trump is doing, it's that people are letting him do it. Like you say, he basically seems to be able to do what he wants these days. Like destroy a chunk of the White House. You can't blame Trump for being Trump if there's literally no one in your country who is in a position to tell him he's being a big manbaby. THAT is the area you have to be concerned with. Trump is going to Trump. He did it the first time round. If you're going to let him back in... then put people in place to limit how much power he has. Or any president in future can have. Maybe he will be a lesson for the future. We can hope. Maybe y'all need a version of the Magna Carta. 810 years late, but better late than never!
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Quote from: Northern Star Girl on Yesterday at 08:06:36 PM@Lori Dee  @Sephirah

Dear Lori and Sephirah;
Trump is not the only President that has taken military actions to kill non-combatants including American citizens that did not have a trial or legal recourse.  Presidents Bush and also Obama directed deadly "DRONE" air strikes that much exceeded what President Trump has done with the blowing up of the DRUG BOATS in the Caribbean coming from Venezuela.
    https://www.newsweek.com/strikes-during-obamas-presidency-killed-many-117-civilians-545080 🔗

While this was happening I did not see or hear the negative outcry that we are seeing and hearing about regarding Trump's actions of blowing up the Drug Boats.

In my opinion all of these actions by all of the Presidents... Bush, Obama, and Trump are justified and protecting America's interests in keeping our country safe from drugs and from terrorism.


Thanks for pointing this out.
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