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Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?

Started by ChrissyRyan, December 01, 2018, 12:13:26 PM

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Rayna

Uh oh, I'm out around town today in a red shirt lol

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If so, then why not?
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DawnOday

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It just feels right   :icon_hug: :icon_hug: :icon_kiss: :icon_kiss: :icon_kiss:

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ChrissyRyan

Quote from: HappyMoni on December 02, 2018, 01:20:17 PM
I don't know Dawn, if we get like cool uniforms like Star Trek and can avoid the humans shooting us out of the ski, I might be up for it. lol Just don't want to come down to the planet in a red blouse. They never survive.


Moni,

Hmmmm....  uniforms...  How about those miniskirts from that first Star Trek television series?
Gosh, they used tablet computers "way back" on the 1960s show, although the show was set way in the future.  Still in reruns, a televison classic!

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Always stay cheerful, be polite, kind, and understanding. Accepting yourself as the woman you are is very liberating.
Never underestimate the appreciation and respect of authenticity.  Be brave, be strong.  Try a little kindness.  I am a brown eyed brunette. 
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HappyMoni

Chrissy, I think we could pull it off. I get a lot of comments on my legs and have you seen Dawn's legs? Ooh la la! She's got to be our captain. I'll be Ensign Moni, 1st class Space Invader, reporting for duty.
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ChrissyRyan

Quote from: HappyMoni on December 02, 2018, 02:45:43 PM
Chrissy, I think we could pull it off. I get a lot of comments on my legs and have you seen Dawn's legs? Ooh la la! She's got to be our captain. I'll be Ensign Moni, 1st class Space Invader, reporting for duty.


Moni,

Well us two ensigns and the Captain just enjoyed dinner at one of these restaurants (we were welcomed there).  Captain Dawn just said, "Beam us up Scotty!"   :)
Always stay cheerful, be polite, kind, and understanding. Accepting yourself as the woman you are is very liberating.
Never underestimate the appreciation and respect of authenticity.  Be brave, be strong.  Try a little kindness.  I am a brown eyed brunette. 
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TonyaW

Quote from: HappyMoni on December 02, 2018, 02:45:43 PM
Chrissy, I think we could pull it off. I get a lot of comments on my legs and have you seen Dawn's legs? Ooh la la! She's got to be our captain. I'll be Ensign Moni, 1st class Space Invader, reporting for duty.
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on December 02, 2018, 03:14:20 PM

Moni,

Well us two ensigns and the Captain just enjoyed dinner at one of these restaurants (we were welcomed there).  Captain Dawn just said, "Beam us up Scotty!"   :)
Scotty and Uhura wore red and always came back, but most others could have been in the credits as ensign dead guy. 

Speaking of Star Trek uniforms, I remember always wanting to wear one of those dresses when I was watching as a kid.

To be on topic for a bit, I don't think there would be any issues at a restaurant. Generally they are not able to limit their clientele and still be profitable.

Possibly issues in bars. In a male oriented gay bar generally no one there would  be interested in females of any sort. Probably more disinterest than discrimination though. There is a small but vocal group of
lesbians that have issues with trans ladies. Look up TERF on Twitter if you really want to know more.

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Anne Blake

Chrissy, I just love your question and also your sensitivity in even asking it. My wife and I have quite a few friends in the LGBTQ+ spectrum and I have raised this very question amongst them several times. The press about TERFs is my prime driver of the question. I have never met a self professed TERF and only know of them from some comments here on Susan's and a few other publication comments. Of my friends that are quite experienced in various lifestyles, they have never found an environment that they would not consider safe and accepting of me.

I would be concerned about invading the space of territorial people, whether strong minded gay or lesbians or any form of judgmental people that have somewhat defined their territory. So far, in our travels around this country and a bit in Canada, we have yet to run into such a situation. Our standard procedure is to enter a place and present a warm and accepting demeanor and have always felt the same reflected back.

Tia Anne
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Linde

Quote from: DawnOday on December 02, 2018, 12:24:11 PM
There are so many negative connotations for transgender people already and now we are "Space Invaders?"
Just like all the other aliens, including ET.
I could easily play an alien.  I lived here in this country for about 30 years as an alien, all documented, and had an alien registration card to proof it!
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Devlyn

I've spent a lot of time in gay spaces, I always felt welcome. I did get the hairy eyeball once, but the guy I was with said the staring was probably because we looked like a straight couple there to gawk at gay guys. (The bartenders there all wore leather pants and no shirts, to give you an idea what kind of place it was.)
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