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[Stottie Girl]

Remember little girls get years to practice with makeup. Mothers and others helping. It's not easy. It takes time to get your look. I went and got color matched at a department store. It was an amazing feeling. The gal behind the counter didn't even bat an eye. I did this all on my own. It took me a couple tries. You got this i have faith in you

This is so true.

I honestly think we all look like clowns when we first start trying makeup. Make up is a learned skill, you aren't born with it. It's art. My best advice is to watch Youtube videos offering tips and techniques for women your own age, with similar facial features and skin tone preferably.

Also, try sitting down at a pavement or mall cafe and observe women your own age (carefull not to stare though!) apart from the odd exception who seem to love rocking the clown look you will find that less is usually more. There's a lot to learn and it takes lots of practise. Take selfies each time you do it, it can provide a good reference point and shows how your style is evolving and it's bloody funny looking back at your early attempts!

Theres also a difference between everyday makeup and getting ready for a night on the tiles.

Your style never really stops evolving as fashions change and styles vary with age

It's a learning process, express yourself and have fun!

[Dawn Kellie]

As of this moment in time I use concealer over my moisturizer and wrinkles cream. Im moving towards full foundation and eye makeup.
Any changes should br gradual, unless you feel the need to say "the heck with it" and do it all at once.Im no where near that point myself. Small steps get use 5o the person in the mirror looking back. Then the next step and so. Until you're the person you want to be

[Stottie Girl]

As of this moment in time I use concealer over my moisturizer and wrinkles cream. Im moving towards full foundation and eye makeup.
Any changes should br gradual, unless you feel the need to say "the heck with it" and do it all at once.Im no where near that point myself. Small steps get use 5o the person in the mirror looking back. Then the next step and so. Until you're the person you want to be

Yeah, concealer is miracle stuff, I couldn't be without it. I still haven't got away with foundation though. I always look a bit freaky and I'm not sure quite why. I have matching foundation and concealer, the concealer looks perfect but the foundation looks weird. It's the texture not the colour I think.

[Dawn Kellie]

Yeah, concealer is miracle stuff, I couldn't be without it. I still haven't got away with foundation though. I always look a bit freaky and I'm not sure quite why. I have matching foundation and concealer, the concealer looks perfect but the foundation looks weird. It's the texture not the colour I think.

The great lady that did my color, told me to not use your fingers. Use a sponge because your fingers cause streaking.
If that helps

[Stottie Girl]

I use a foundation brush rather than my fingers. Blending isn't the problem it just looks like I'm wearing a mask, too dry maybe? Something to do with the texture anyway. I'm not entirely sure I need it and it's a right mess to remove.

[Dawn Kellie]

Im going with liquid foundation. It looks easier to blend

[Stottie Girl]

Im going with liquid foundation. It looks easier to blend

I've heard a few people mention this, I haven't seen foundation that wasn't liquid, I thought it all was? Is the other stuff a cream?

[Dawn Kellie]

I thought there was a powder foundation. I could be wrong, just started my makeup journey

[Dawn Kellie]

I've heard a few people mention this, I haven't seen foundation that wasn't liquid, I thought it all was? Is the other stuff a cream?

I just googled it. There is liquid, powder and matte. Beside liquid and powder I'm not sure of all the differences

[Stottie Girl]

hmmmm, more research required!

[Dawn Kellie]

I haven't done it yet but a make over is on my list. Still need to lose the facial hair.

[Petunia]

I used to be quite reasonable with makeup. I even did my wifes a few times.

Using a primer before concealer and foundation is also a good idea.
 
The problem for me isn't wrinkles it's crevasses, severely hooded and creased eyes, busted nose and facial scars from skin cancer.

Oh, and the beard has to go of course

I know I sound like an old complainer and I'm really sorry for that.

[Dawn Kellie]

Go get a make over. If you need to go to a town or two over. You won't be the first crossdresser they've seen. As long as you make a couple purchases they will be happy.  At my local Ulta there is a crossdresser that I want to do mune. After , like yoy, I shave the face hair. My wife is still not letting me shave.
Remember small steps

[Petunia]

Hi Kellie, I'm sorry for stealing your thread. Typical me, see something that sounds familiar and run with it.

You are so right.  I need to go and have a makeover before I think about anything else.

I did a lot of reading recently and found my young experiences had much in common with trans women. 

Stupidly I haven't gone through all the consequences of this.

I really focussed in on the clarity that many have felt being on estrogen and I really crave that, but that diesn't mean I'll be lucky enough to experience it.

Really, I still don't know if I'm cd, enbee, or tg and until I discuss this with a psychologist I can really do much more.

For now I'm cd and just accept that part of myself.

I am spending way too much time obsessing over this and just keep living.

I will keep following your journey with interest.

[Dawn Kellie]

You stole nothing. We are in a similar journey. Im here to listen. Keep posting here and this can be our string. Friends help each other.  We can lift up each other cheer our success or cry together. What ever is most appropriate. 
This is now our thread

[Petunia]

Thank you so much Kellie,

My mind is swinging from side to side.   

My wife asked me a simple question.  Why did you start crossdressing again?  Why now?

I have a pandora's box which I peaked into and I think I can't close it.

I read the gender dysphoria bible and it blew my mind.
I am a stereotype according to what I have read.
I didn't sign up to this and I never thought in a million years that I'd be in the position I am now.

I have moments of euphoria, and thoughts that perhaps hrt may give stop the dissocistion I have had all my life.

I can't thank everyone here enough for just listening and Kellie, I give you my love

[Dawn Kellie]

Im not firmiliar the gender dysphoria Bible. I need to check it out.
I have to be mostly male this week. My wife and I are on a trip to California and I got to see my parents. U haven't seen them in 3 years.  I still wore panties 🤪.

@Petunia thank you. Im here to listen and support.