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Day One of Estrogen!!!! (And some interesting surrounding details).

Started by Ltl89, June 13, 2013, 10:39:18 AM

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Ltl89

So today I started  estrogen for the first time.  It's really hard for to describe everything but I feel so euphoric.  I know it can't be the pills already, but I just feel really good!  Yay placebo effect.

However, there was some troubling things that came back on my blood work.  Apparently, I'm seriously deficient in vitamin D and have a high hemoglobin level.  I'm a vegetarian and take other medications, so I'm hoping that has something to do with the hemoglobin, but I have to see a hemotologist to make sure I'm okay.  I'm a little nervous about that and feel a little upset that my levels weren't normal.  I also have really low testosterone.  I'm not sure of the rate, but she told me it's not at the normal male level.  She actually asked me if I was already taking hrt even though I'm not.  I guess that's a positive.

Also, I have a funny story to share about my prescription pick up.  When I came to pick it up, I was told that it's ready but they can't find it.  After 10 minutes of waiting, the pharmacist walks over and asks me why I'm taking my prescription.  I told him it was between my doctor and I, but he made sure to warn me that this was estrogen.   He wasn't judgemental, so I wasn't upset about it.  It seemed like he just wanted to give me the heads up in case I wasn't aware.  Besides, he wished me lots of luck and told me to have a great day.  Overall, I found it more funny than awkward.  I suppose I'm getting used to letting people know I'm trans. 

Overall it's been an interesting day.  Unfortunately, I have no time to relax.  Tomorrow I have another job interview and on Saturday I will let my mom know about the cat living in my bag. 
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Beth Andrea

Yay!

Congrats! And I think the "placebo effect" is just immense relief over finally going in the right direction gender-wise...enjoy the journey! :)
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Heather

Congratulations yeah that first dose is special. Sounds like your already off to a good start with the low testosterone level. I'm looking forward to hearing about your progress. :)
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Vicky

I have a chromosomal variance that gives me too much of an iron product in my blood, but it has not caused any problems with my having HRT, nor did it affect any of my hormonal transition. So you should be fine if the blood condition is controlled for itself.  My blood problem is treated as separate and distinct from my gender issues, but the medical staff dealing with it have been super nice about my transition.

I hope you have a hard hat and a safety harness buckled on, because the adventure ahead is gonna be a doozy.
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Antonia J

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Jamie D

LearningToLive - congratulations!  I read a very interesting passage on an endocrinologist's website last night, that got me thinking.

As sex hormones impact on breast or buttocks, skin or bone, they do so slowly, because the small hormones, unlike the far larger peptide hormones, enter easily into the substance of their target cells and act upon receptors that are intracellular. Once activated these receptors alter the expression of genes located within the nucleus of the target cell, and this process takes quite some time to take effect. As a result for example, a woman cannot suddenly swing from D cups to A cups over a period of seconds, minutes, hours or even days, no matter how erratic her hormone levels may have become. The same is not true however, of the brain. Sex hormones influence the brain not only through the classic receptor mediated effect on the genes of the nucleus, a truly slow, sluggish and lingering effect, they also act directly on the outside surfaces of brain cells, through mechanisms that operate at very high speed, indeed within milliseconds. As a result erratic levels of sex hormones, operating on the brain in a brief and rapid manner can and do translate promptly into major psychological problems including disturbances of emotion and intellect, such as mood swings, depression, anxiety and perhaps suicide. On the other hand stabilizing hormone levels in the transsexual can lead to marked improvements in the emotional and intellectual states of those patients who used to suffer from psychosis and schizoidal conditions.

Your euphoria may very well be from the estradiol.
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Ciara

Good for you. I'm really thrilled for you. As the saying goes......."Today is the first day of the rest of your life".

Also, good luck with your mother on Saturday. I'm going to Boston an a holiday to see our son tomorrow so I may not catch up with your progress until I get back to Ireland in ten days.
I will be thinking of you though.

Love,
Ciara.
I don't have a gender issue.
I love being a girl.



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Theo

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A

Congratulations!

Also, being vegetarian rather brings an iron deficit, if it's going to bring problems. Pretty much the contrary of what you have, eh? So I wager that's not it.

And vitamin D... Well, that's just because you need to get more milk. Or if you hate and/or digest milk badly (both in my case), soy milk. There's always some vitamin D in there. And maybe a multivitamin. They're a nice safety.
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Ltl89

Thanks everyone for your kind wishes!

Quote from: A on June 13, 2013, 05:14:22 PM
Congratulations!

Also, being vegetarian rather brings an iron deficit, if it's going to bring problems. Pretty much the contrary of what you have, eh? So I wager that's not it.

And vitamin D... Well, that's just because you need to get more milk. Or if you hate and/or digest milk badly (both in my case), soy milk. There's always some vitamin D in there. And maybe a multivitamin. They're a nice safety.

That's the thing that concerns me.  Why would my hemoglobin levels be higher than normal.  I'm usually dehydrated and do take other meds, but I'm fearful that it is something else.  My endo is very cautious and wants me to be cleared before we take the next step and increase the dosage.  So, I need to figure this out.

I drink lots of soy milk and take a multivitamin daily (well, I forget sometimes).  Therefore, I'm a bit confused why  I would be deficient. 

Quote from: Ciara on June 13, 2013, 02:15:50 PM
Good for you. I'm really thrilled for you. As the saying goes......."Today is the first day of the rest of your life".

Also, good luck with your mother on Saturday. I'm going to Boston an a holiday to see our son tomorrow so I may not catch up with your progress until I get back to Ireland in ten days.
I will be thinking of you though.

Love,
Ciara.

Have fun in Boston.  It's a lovely city.  And please cherish your time with your son. :)

Quote from: Jamie D on June 13, 2013, 01:39:48 PM
LearningToLive - congratulations!  I read a very interesting passage on an endocrinologist's website last night, that got me thinking.

As sex hormones impact on breast or buttocks, skin or bone, they do so slowly, because the small hormones, unlike the far larger peptide hormones, enter easily into the substance of their target cells and act upon receptors that are intracellular. Once activated these receptors alter the expression of genes located within the nucleus of the target cell, and this process takes quite some time to take effect. As a result for example, a woman cannot suddenly swing from D cups to A cups over a period of seconds, minutes, hours or even days, no matter how erratic her hormone levels may have become. The same is not true however, of the brain. Sex hormones influence the brain not only through the classic receptor mediated effect on the genes of the nucleus, a truly slow, sluggish and lingering effect, they also act directly on the outside surfaces of brain cells, through mechanisms that operate at very high speed, indeed within milliseconds. As a result erratic levels of sex hormones, operating on the brain in a brief and rapid manner can and do translate promptly into major psychological problems including disturbances of emotion and intellect, such as mood swings, depression, anxiety and perhaps suicide. On the other hand stabilizing hormone levels in the transsexual can lead to marked improvements in the emotional and intellectual states of those patients who used to suffer from psychosis and schizoidal conditions.

Your euphoria may very well be from the estradiol.

It's possible, but I think it was more an emotional rush.  Unfortunately, I think I'm starting to experience a little insomnia, so maybe it's already effecting me.  I'm fairly certain that the insomnia I feel tonight is connected to this.

Quote from: Antonia J on June 13, 2013, 01:21:49 PM
Doesn't this young lady get some cookies???

If you saw me, I think you'd agree that I've had too many cookies already,lol. 
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Jennygirl

Your story about seeing your pharmacist and your commentary afterwards makes me smile from the inside out.

I'm really happy for you, BIG congratulations :) What an exciting time you are experiencing right now!
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misschievous

Congratulations on the start of your new life :)

Quote from: learningtolive on June 14, 2013, 02:33:56 AM


I drink lots of soy milk and take a multivitamin daily (well, I forget sometimes).  Therefore, I'm a bit confused why  I would be deficient. 


That could explain the low T levels. Soy is a natural anti androgen.

PS for those that read this and think" well if soy is a natural anti androgen then I will start taking soy isoflavon pills" THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THE PILLS OVER A LONG PERIOD CAN BE DEADLY OR AT LEAST CAUSE SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUES. that is why I stopped after I found that out.

Quote from: learningtolive on June 13, 2013, 10:39:18 AM
Overall it's been an interesting day.  Unfortunately, I have no time to relax.  Tomorrow I have another job interview and on Saturday I will let my mom know about the cat living in my bag. 

You have a cat in your bag? Aren't you afraid of it peeing or pooing all over your stuff? Plus that is not a good thing Cats need to be able to roam free :P :)
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V M

Congrats on starting on E learningtolive  :)

I also tested low on T but it was attributed to my age, yay!!! No need for spiro for me  :)

I tested low on vitamin D and sodium, I take a Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc tab with vitamin D at bed time


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Cindy

Congratulations !!!!

I still remember the place time and date of my first pill!

Vit D deficiency is very common. Surprisingly in Australia it is extremely common even though we have so much sunlight we are taught to keep out of it as much as possible.

I take two Vit D tabs a day to bring it back up. Vit D is important to trans*woman in particular to maintain good bone strength when we go onto E and T disappears.

If you are dehydrated your haemoglobin levels will be high, drink water through out the day. You will also need the water when you are on spiro.

Hugs and happy birthday!

Cindy
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V M

Quote from: Sammy on June 14, 2013, 04:50:47 AM
Fish oil for the win!

Yes, I take fish oil when I get up  :)  But I do that more for heart health
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Sammy

As other supplements I am taking fish oil, Multicomplex B - because of that slight biotine dose it has. I got another supplement which is very good for skin, but I am a bit hesitant with that cause it has got potassium in it too... So I just take 1 pill once or twice per week. Yeah, and magnesium capsules too.
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A

Soy is not a natural anti-androgen. It contains phyto-estrogens, which act as estrogen, but very very slightly. But estrogen, whatever its form, isn't exactly what I'd call an anti-androgen.
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