if we build it, would you come?

[Miss_Bungle1991]

From what I've seen on this site with free speech NOT protected and intended only for support, no, I doubt it would be a utopia.  If you think we would all hold hands and sing kumbaya you are gravely mistaken.  There would be just as much hate and judgment as there is in a mixed society.

Well, yeah. That's kind of obvious. But you would get that in ANY group. Just like the dorky "white power" schmucks that believe that a "pure, white society" would be heaven on earth. Pffft. Yeah, right. ALL groups will fight among themselves eventually.

[WFane]

Going to a group meeting, and visiting forums is one thing... but let's face it: there's a whole lotta whining and complaining that goes on in those places. Imagine a city full of it... it'd be like... NYC or something lol

With due respect to the trans community over NYC, the problems in the trans community are actually dealt with - not just complained about.

All that said; nah, I'll pass.

[Tristan]

nop . i live my variety
still working on meeting my first ever other trans person in public. 

[stephaniec]

nop . i live my variety
still working on meeting my first ever other trans person in public.

I worked with a ftm for couple of years very nice person

[Constance]

But a question comes up... a self-sufficient non-reproducing population seems to be an oxymoron.

Good point.

[Tristan]

yeah i want to meet some FtoMs in person so bad though. so i would def visit this new place

[stephaniec]

yeah i want to meet some FtoMs in person so bad though. so i would def visit this new place

too bad you don't live in Chicago , we've got a huge community here

[Anatta]

Kia Ora,
I posted this comment on another forum a few years back when a similar proposal was put forward (I've edited it)

Posted 02 April 2008
Kia Ora
I would like to share my 'thoughts' on what you propose...

Back around five hundred years ago in Italy, the Italians built walls around the local Jewish quarters in most of their large towns and cities. At the time the local Italian authorities said it was to stop the 'violence' that was being inflicted upon the Jewish traders by disgruntled peasants who felt the Jt's were a 'bad' influence on their communities and took it into their own hands to teach them a lesson - This wall was meant to 'protect' them...The Italians call these places 'Ghettos' And we all know what happen in the European ghettos last century... Not forgetting both South Africa and the US tried 'segregation'[keeping what they saw as 'undesirables' from mainstream white society] in doing so created black ghettos.

The state of Israel evolved as a place where the 'Jewish' Diaspora could move to –to feel more secure-security in numbers...Then a few years back they started to build a wall around it to 'protect' the citizens within...They are now trying to turn the whole Jewish state into a 'ghetto'...Umm history repeating itself !

[A definition of insanity! ... "Continuing to do the 'same' thing over and over again and each time 'hoping' for a different outcome!"']

Metta Zenda

[Emo]

Sounds like a ghetto for trans people...

[Constance]

I don't have a problem with intentional communities per se, but I don't like isolationism. I could see myself spending some time in such a place, but more as an occasional retreat rather than for day-to-day living.

[Jamie D]

Transtopia.....a self sufficient, walled city where you must be transgender or a significant other to move in.

Yes it's just a hypothetical situation but if it was ever built, would you move in? If you said yes, what skills would you bring to the city?

I would bring a knowledge of manufacturing, law enforcement and firearms to the city and of course i would move there.

I think there is a book about that.  Brave New Girl.

[Jill F]

I think there is a book about that.  Brave New Girl.

*spits out soda*

[Jamie D]

I am not responsible for any keyboards!!

[Ltl89]

No.  I like diversity and wouldn't feel too comfortable in a place like that. 

I think Sarah Louise's comment is very true about there being no utopia.  Being that I'm a tree hugging hippie, I once really believed (or wanted to believe) that humans could create a loving uptopia if we all came together and tried to find common ground.  However, there really is no such thing as a place free of conflict or problems as much as I'd love to believe in it.  What looks like a paradise to one person can be a nightmare for another.  A trans community would still have plenty of issues and struggles to overcome even if it did solve the transphobia problem.  I'd much rather have an inclusive and diverse society that can learn to integrate the trans community into it.  And judging by the way history is turning, it's slowly becoming a reality.  Excluding ourselves seems like a step backwards in my opinion. 

Having said that, I wouldn't mind a trans version of San fran or something.  A place that is transfriendly but not exclusionary. 

[Constance]

I am not responsible for any keyboards!!

Dammit! There was this really cool steampunk one I was going to bill you for! 

[JordanBlue]

I lived in self imposed exile for over 50 years.  No way in hell I'd go back to a scenario like that.  as far as the doomsday thing?  When it's over - It's over.  That's my take on it.  Scratching and scraping to simply survive?   Sorry, that's not my idea of a good time. 

[Jaelithe]

I'm a network admin and Pennetration Tester(insert joke) due to graduate this coming May after I wrap up some unrelated classes.  I would totally work IT for this place XD

[Emo]

Is there a reason my post was deleted?

Maybe it was so amazingly awesome that it could no longer be seen by the eyes of mere mortals. So God moderated your post so peoples brains wouldnt explode whdn they read your post of amazingness.

[stephaniec]

Maybe it was so amazingly awesome that it could no longer be seen by the eyes of mere mortals. So God moderated your post so peoples brains wouldnt explode whdn they read your post of amazingness.

this is most logical

[Rachel85]

No thanks.

But a question comes up... a self-sufficient non-reproducing population seems to be an oxymoron.

My first thought too followed by the concept of a Trans* ghetto. In a way sounds appealing, but I think the sheen would wear off for me very quickly.
I prefer a diverse society over a homogenous society. I'd rather work on acceptance by the larger community than building walls from them.