Quote from: Skye on September 11, 2007, 09:03:08 AM
None of the Above -
Stop arguing symantecs.
Semantics is not applicable here, you may want to look it up. I am talking basic concepts and not parsing or comparing words.
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Consequence is not the end all be all of a problem.
Erm, consequences does mean that the problem is not necessarily solved.
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If I Kill someone I no longer have a problem from them.
You may very well have a problem with their entire family or even entire tribe, which is at least an equivocal problem. You very likely have not rid yourself of the problem. Now you can extend your thinking to 'I just wipe out the whole pesky tribe now', but they may have other alliances, and garnered some sympathy from outside factions as a result of your Final Solution. Where does this path you so boldy embarked uponr find an Actual End?
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1. If there is a problem, there is a solution. There is no ipso-facto answer that will not cause other problems. We call this LIFE. The point was simple. If something is no longer there ,it is no longer a problem. That DOES NOT mean that its absence will not cause other problems. It also does not mean there are not consequences.
Which means that it is
not that simple, does it not? I realize this is not a philosophy forum, this is 'politics' and essentially a barroom, but I do not think that it is I who is failing to understand what one is saying here. You have asserted something simplistic (and In My Opinion wrong-headed), and now that I point out some essential aspects you chose to boldy ignore, you suggest that I don't get it.
You said war ended something, was 'a' solution. END indicates finality. I believe that victims, as a consequence of war, have something to do with a refulation of 'that's the end of that', which APPEARS to be your entire point. THE WAR TO END WARS; they said that about both world wars. It wasn't true when they said it, it can't be true today or any day.
Look at how both conflicts drastically disenfranchised and dislocated the Arab population, for merely one example, and you might see that those wars had a number of results: it did end some aspects at least for a good long while, ended some aspects temporarily, in some ways was a wash and, in some of the decisions made in the aftermath, served to perpetuate world war for generations to come.
Note Well:
I have some violence in my history. In fact, one time I laid out a professed neo-Nazi calling for Final Solutions. I did shut the person up, and did not have to hear that noise again from him.
BFD.I don't think that's what we are talking about with WAR. And I believe I have shown this. I now opt out of this topic, because despite your assertion that every problem has a solution, in this case I Begin to Doubt It.
