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The great progesterone debate.

Started by Tiffanie, May 27, 2015, 04:31:19 PM

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amber roskamp

Quote from: Cynobyte on June 04, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
thank you for the info Laura;) And Amber, your hrt achievements compared to your roommate could be just from genetics too.  Progesterone may have slowed her down for all we know, but I hope not.  I submitted the info above, yet I still have plans to try it again.  Im thinking of taking that article directly to my endo and look into injections.  I love the injections for estradiol because of better response.  Willing to see what a few months of natural progesterone will do.

The one tidbit in that article where they can link that "progesterone helps stop manboobs."  Although I dont call them that, I was originally a male!  What if doing this does cause shrinkage?  But the other effects are beneficial to the point Im gonna try.  If i do feel they are shrinking, I will pass it on.  Im looking at gastric bypass in Aug, so Im sure there will be shrinkage there:(  But next summer if I feel better and more healthy, I may just buy me a pair.  Thank you science for body parts! 

I will try to report on this, but even if with the progesterone, lets say i grow by a factor of 1, what if I start loosing them by a factor of 2?  my data would be flawed and I would report back that progesterone in fact does cause "boob loss", but it was just me.  So hopefully i remember to give an opinion before my bypass.  Wish me luck;)

If progesterone was making trans women look more masculine by shrinking the breast tissue then no doctors would ever prescribe it for a trans women. It is hard say how much of an effect it actually has though because I don't think they usually give it to trans women by itself. The trans women that I know who took it did say it helped with breast development.
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Laura_7

Quote from: Cynobyte on June 04, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
The one tidbit in that article where they can link that "progesterone helps stop manboobs." 
If you read through the article carefully, you will see that their reasoning of
-keeping up testosterone by preventing some conversion to dht
and
-preventing some conversion from estrone to estradiol
was adressed in my last response. Imo the former is beneficial because dht is supposed to be androgenic and the latter is meaningless in an estrogen dominated surrounding.
The rest is headline imo.

This is unfortunately often how articles are written. If you look beyond the headline at the reasoning the headline is not always justified :).
Anyways imo not in an estrogen dominated surrounding.


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angiegurl

My endo has me cycling progesterone 10 days out of the month. This was at my suggestion. So far it is too early to tell but I do feel better when I take it vs not.
Angie



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KayXo

Progesterone is mildly anti-estrogenic in that it reduces the number of estrogen receptors, increases metabolization of estradiol to estrone or inactive components BUT also stimulates certain structures in the breast, can have a relaxing effect thus helping things work better in the body. Progesterone counters dryness/brittle nails from estrogen, has a diuretic effect vs. water retention for estrogen, aids in further fat accumulation (i.e. buttocks), etc....SO, really, whether, in the end, it benefits you more than harms you, one cannot say in advance, one must try it with doctor's agreement. For me, so far, it's been good, I think. ;)

Also, that link is not scientific and progesterone is not well absorbed in the blood when applied as a cream, especially in over the counter creams that are too weak. There are no solid references so, don't believe everything you read. Research, read and read. Pay attention to the smallest details, even studies can be biased, not well conducted, etc. Always keep your critical hat on, even when discussing with experts, doctors, etc.

I am not a medical doctor, nor a scientist - opinions expressed by me on the subject of HRT are merely based on my own review of some of the scientific literature over the last decade or so, on anecdotal evidence from women in various discussion forums that I have come across, and my personal experience

On HRT since early 2004
Post-op since late 2005
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