19 Pre Hormones

[Aaliyah]

Hey all!

I know i've posted before. I finally put pics with me in girls clothes (the shirt is my mom's and the pants are my skinny jeans that look like girl jeans, its all I have at the monent, sadly)

I am wondering how feminine I look or if I look somewhat androgynous. I hope to start hormones soon. I don't wear wigs as I dont have any and I love my curly hair. I hope once my hair gets longer it will help me look more feminine.

Do you all think I have the ability to pass? It seems like passing is an unattainable goal with how I look at the moment. (I at least feel like I look good in these pics!!!)
http://imgur.com/jUaCI6U
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[Allie24]

You have very soft features, which is incredibly helpful in passing. And such beautiful lips! The only issue I can see you having at the moment is your hairline, perhaps. But after your hair has grown out some you'll be okay, not to mention that HRT can fill it in some, and, if you've got the money for it, FFS is always an option.

In my opinion, though, I think you'll be fine. You're really very pretty and a couple years on HRT will only accentuate that. You will be amazed the wonders it can do.

[elkie-t]

Hey all!

I know i've posted before. I finally put pics with me in girls clothes (the shirt is my mom's and the pants are my skinny jeans that look like girl jeans, its all I have at the monent, sadly)

I am wondering how feminine I look or if I look somewhat androgynous. I hope to start hormones soon. I don't wear wigs as I dont have any and I love my curly hair. I hope once my hair gets longer it will help me look more feminine.

Do you all think I have the ability to pass? It seems like passing is an unattainable goal with how I look at the moment. (I at least feel like I look good in these pics!!!)

a) don't borrow your mom's clothes. Buy your own. Goodwill or Salvation Army or any thrift shop is your friend.

b) you have potential. But it will take time to get where you want to be even in terms of style and presentation.

c) you shouldn't think whether you pass or not and base your decisions on opinion of total strangers. If you want to transition, you better talk to your parents or a gender specialist and do it sooner rather than later. Otherwise, it's perfectly fine to want to crossdress now and then (or full time) without any medical interventions.

[MeTony]

a) don't borrow your mom's clothes. Buy your own. Goodwill or Salvation Army or any thrift shop is your friend.

Ooopsiee.  Me and my oldest son share some cloths. He sometimes picks my hoodies or t-shirts and wears them to school.

My husband has a hard time knowing who's cloths goes where when they are dry.

I've told my son he has his own cloths, but he likes mine.

Tony

[Dani]

Do you all think I have the ability to pass? It seems like passing is an unattainable goal with how I look at the moment.

I think you will find HRT will really make you look much more feminine. I did notice some hair receding at your temples and forehead. Make sure you get an anti-androgen such as Spironolactone or better yet Finasteride to stop any hair loss until you can get GCS.

[elkie-t]

Ooopsiee.  Me and my oldest son share some cloths. He sometimes picks my hoodies or t-shirts and wears them to school.

My husband has a hard time knowing who's cloths goes where when they are dry.

I've told my son he has his own cloths, but he likes mine.

Tony

I _knew_ I had to edit my post and add 'without her permission'... but then, it was obvious in this context that permission was not there. And, even if you like your mom's clothes, a teenager style is different than middle-aged women style... Having said that, if you like to swap clothes with you child, who am I to tell you otherwise?

[amandam]

a) don't borrow your mom's clothes. Buy your own. Goodwill or Salvation Army or any thrift shop is your friend.

Said no cisgirl ever! LOL. J/K.

You look very fem, keep going.

[MeTony]

I _knew_ I had to edit my post and add 'without her permission'... but then, it was obvious in this context that permission was not there. And, even if you like your mom's clothes, a teenager style is different than middle-aged women style... Having said that, if you like to swap clothes with you child, who am I to tell you otherwise?

I've never been into fashion. I wear what I like. Think my son maybe wants to look older and that's why he wears my cloths.

Think there is a greater differance in womens cloths depending on age than mens cloths. But who am I to tell, I stopped wearing womens cloths since ages. And as I said, I'm blind for fashion. If it feels ok, it's ok.

But as you said. Permission is needed or buy your own cloths.

[MeTony]

Looking good Aaliyah. You have female features and a nice smile.

[Julia1996]

I've never been into fashion. I wear what I like. Think my son maybe wants to look older and that's why he wears my cloths.

Think there is a greater differance in womens cloths depending on age than mens cloths. But who am I to tell, I stopped wearing womens cloths since ages. And as I said, I'm blind for fashion. If it feels ok, it's ok.

But as you said. Permission is needed or buy your own cloths.

Yeah, I don't think that applies to guys. My dad and brother always wear each others casual stuff.

[Aaliyah]

I think I gave the wrong impression of my clothes lol. I don't wear everything that my mom has, she has like 2 shirts that I like. The one in the picture, I would definately buy for myself 😂

I can't really buy female clothing. I am going to college and live at home(I can't afford to live on campus and go to school ). My parents say make up is okay, but clothing is not. I think I just need to buy some and get crafty at hiding them!

[Allie24]

I think I gave the wrong impression of my clothes lol. I don't wear everything that my mom has, she has like 2 shirts that I like. The one in the picture, I would definately buy for myself 😂

I can't really buy female clothing. I am going to college and live at home(I can't afford to live on campus and go to school ). My parents say make up is okay, but clothing is not. I think I just need to buy some and get crafty at hiding them!

Tip: shop for androgynous women's wear. Girls' skinny jeans, form-fitting t-shirts, etc. The more feminine/androgynous your attire, the less male you'll appear, and makeup will only help you even more.

Back in high school I was able to convince my parents to buy me girls' jeans and got away with wearing a few of my sister's t-shirts (but makeup was a no-go, sadly). I don't know how your parents are, but if they're anything like mine, as long as its anything short of a dress/skirt/blouse, then they might not have any trouble with it at all.

If worse comes to worse, look for androgynous menswear. It exists, I'm sure. And really hone in on your makeup skills!

[Allie24]

Said no cisgirl ever! LOL. J/K.

You look very fem, keep going.

*gasp* Thrift stores are the best, how dare you! lol I jk as well. As awesome as they are it is, of course, up to the individual where they prefer to purchase their clothes

[elkie-t]

Yeah, I was able to buy a feminine jeans from jcpenney and oxfords from Payless and wear them daily as if they are male.

However, I would like to reiterate, younger girls should target brighter colors, not those favored by mid aged ladies in their comfort tops. Some colorful t-shirt or a bright blouse might look innocent enough for your parent, yet say young girl loud enough. And you need to deal with your hair, maybe a bandanna (for an idea), or find an androgynous cap.


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[elkie-t]

I think you are in a good position with your parents, if they allowed you to use make up. Build on it slowly and they will not object too much.


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[elkie-t]

And another area of improvement might be accessories. Hairbands, necklaces, wristbands, maybe pierced ears with little shiners? Go slow, find a good style for yourself and add to it little by little


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[Aaliyah]

Yeah, I was able to buy a feminine jeans from jcpenney and oxfords from Payless and wear them daily as if they are male.  And you need to deal with your hair, maybe a bandanna (for an idea), or find an androgynous cap.


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Thank you to everyone who took the time to comment! I will try to get female clothing. The only thing is my mom explicitly told my therapist that she (and my dad) aren't ready to see me in female clothing, and that was a week ago . Although, they let me have guy jeans that look like female jeans on me (thats sort of a win I guess). They mostly said yes to the make up because they know how much I hated and needed to cover my facial hair. (All they let me do is foundation, concealer, bronzer, and mascara, my mom would say the amount of mascara I have on in the picture is too much)

So the bandana would hide my hairline? I might wait for my hair to get longer before I consider hiding it.  I may try different parts to help minimize receeded parts of my hairline. Also, the women on my dad's side have further back hair lines than the women on my mom side. What I have noticed is that some black women tend to have further back hairlines than white women. So, maybe the hairline is partly testosterone and genetics, sadly and may not even change much on hormones. (Looking back at photos, i've had the same hairline as I do now since I was about 9 or 10, before I started puberty)

Surprisingly, this week going back to work and school, I got more compliments than I could count on my hair, so hopefully i'm doing something right for the time being.