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Robbyv213

Yea. At this point I'm not even sure if that would be a good fit, a individual who is transitioning having to lead a store and get people to do as I ask. That and I don't see that I'd even care for the work.

I just feel so stuck in all aspects of my life.

Just got word that my progesterone is on back order till the end of the month, and in response to the letter to help change gender marker the response was that it can be done after our next appointment as this is a new Dr who is taking me on, or I can ask my previous one for it. So at this point Im not even sure who my physician is.

I think I'm at the point of just using my credit card to get hrt and care from a organization like plume or folx, at least with the care they give o can justify going into more debt.
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Robbyv213

So some hopeful good news. I heard back from h.r. rep and benefits rep for good will they have Cigna and they cover gender affirming care. Hormones and surgery (if you meet requirements).

So that right there i feel is more than enough to try to get this position and get hired, and the pay is a increase over what I already make.

And I did ask my friend about the must be able to go to any location as needed, he said he also asked about that and they said it was up to a maximum of 25 miles from your home address, which I feel isn't bad. I've driven longer distances for work in ca, me and pa.

Pema

That's very promising! Good luck!
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Lori Dee

That sounds good.
Better pay PLUS bennies. Sign me up.

Since it is a management position, I would expect there to be more paperwork than people supervision. Good luck!
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Hi, Robby! It's been ages since we last visited. I took a long and necessary break from day-to-day engagement inside SP. Though I hovered in the hallways, listening intently but speaking little. I am so excited by your employment prospect! Fingers crossed all goes well.   
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Robbyv213

Thanks everyone. I am truly excited now that I have a potential path forward. But then I can't help but feel doubt. Doubt if I'll be happy in this new position. Doubt if I could actually go forward with any potential future surgical procedures.

As I'm sure many people experience doubt at some point to some extent, wondering if they are on the right path, especially right before any surgery...

My mind races, thinking of all possible imaginable futures. Even though I've been wanting and desiring the big surgery as long as I can remember even if I didn't completely understand what it took to achieve my desire of having female anatomy down there I feel like the wanting and the desire is the only way most people know truly that they are on the right path.

And since it seems like the only procedures that are really 100% covered or have the least red tape to cut our top and bottom surgery I feel like that's a step I may not be ready for even after a few years especially since I always imagined or thought that facial procedures would be my first thing, while saving other areas that people don't necessarily see for later.

I'm just kind of ranting and using talk to text since it's a lot easier for me to get my thoughts out and into this journal. And so because it's not necessarily the path I imagined or expected there's always doubt that creeps in whether or not this is the right path for me or if this is just one path that has revealed itself that may not be the best path if I should wait to see if anything else reveals itself or not hesitate to jump on this opportunity.

I've been doing a lot of reading and soul searching from reading. I just started a new book about doing Shadow work and dissolving ego and truly sitting with what has always been deep inside of you and allowing that ego to fade and dissolve from just sitting with and being present with the things that I've always repressed or buried about myself because these things I felt had to be in order to be accepted or loved or to get a specific job or to have friends or to achieve what I thought to be was considered success from an outward perspective...

And so from these books and videos they say that they're really truly is no wrong choice or right choice every choice is a path that will ultimately lead to the same destination sometimes it's a slight detour sometimes it's more direct. But following how you feel about a choice whether it makes you happy and excited or gives you other feelings that are positive or if it's puts fear and dread and anxiety in you or other negative feelings. Usually from what I've been learning is that your intuition speaks through positive feelings and that's how you know if a specific path forward is a good one or not. Granted there will always be ego and doubt to a extent trying to keep you stuck where you're at because it's a form of protection.

I'm going to continue more research and visit a few stores to see if their managers would let me kind of take a tour with them and then wait a little bit to see how my buddy feels about the job once he finishes his training and then make my choice then. Realistically the switch or change probably won't happen until mid February early March time frame.


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Follow your heart and the universe and stop over thinking ,it will turn out fine if you just put some trust into things.
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Sorry I'm a Gemini, I over think everything. Lol
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So last night my wife and I had a conversation where we weren't looking for a answer just expressing thoughts about the fact that if we wanted to end our lease agreement we have till Friday to turn in the written notice of our intent to not renew our lease...

It wasn't a good or bad one. Just a conversation which left me feeling that we will most likely separate and go our own ways here soon. That we both need time. Time for me to figure out who I am, and they can only be done in solitude. And time for her to figure out who she is, and if she thinks she can handle everything that will also come her way as I transition...

I think we both need a rest, and I know another year living together as we are now, if nothing changes will only cause more negativity, and stagnant energy. As much as we love one another, and as much as we both can't see a future where we are not in each other's lives, we at this time are not good for one another, and our bodies, minds and souls need rest from it.
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Maid Marion

Getting management training is extremely valuable.  Many people never get the chance.
 If you become a manager you get health benefits that companies are reluctant to provide.

Not just health insurance, but you often get someone in HR to assist when insurance puts up a hassle.

It is hard to objectively look at why you would be good at a job.  It is easy to discount your strengths and make too much of your weaknesses.

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Robbyv213

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TRIGGER WARNING  TRIGGER WARNING  TRIGGER WARNING

Looks like my wife and I decided to separate once our lease is up which will be here in 2-3 months depending if we have to do a 1 month extension on our agreement if we feel we're not prepared to move

Hopefully we can get our tax returns submitted and get out refunds in a timely manner since that will be the only way either of us will have the funds to put a deposit down anywhere new...

Emotions have been all over the place. I know it's for the better, but there is so much grief and guilt and shame since I feel all this has happened because I am who I am and I was too afraid to allow myself to show her and to tell her who I really was from the beginning...

As of now things are civil. Our goal is for neither of us to get screwed financially and or have to ask either of our family members for help (financially). We have so much to try to figure out. As of now we are un sure if this will be permanent or just for a year or so.

From everything going on I'm having mental breakdowns at work, having to leave half days or call out taking mental health days. Doesn't help I absolutely hate my job working as a mechanic for a Mercedes dealership. Haven't decided if I should apply to good will, since at this point in time I have zero confidence in myself yet alone to be a leader anymore and to lead and mentor growth in employees that would potentially work for me if I had my own store at Goodwill.

Once again even with moving forward and a near future of myself being on my own still has me forced to be stuck where im at in able to change jobs or move outside of the state since I won't be able to find a place to rent without good credit and job history yet alone have the fund to move out of state.

Bc of all this and having a mental breakdown at work I missed my consultation with the plastic surgery firm in Seattle and I got to pay the non refundable fee and an additional 50 for not cancelling within 24 hrs.


Charlotte Kitty

So sorry to hear that you've decided to separate. I'm glad to hear that it's civil as that's at least some of the stress removed, but still doesn't stop things feeling dark and empty. Although I know it's really hard to just turn off feelings and change how you think, please try not to feel guilty. You are facing and have faced feelings and issues that most people never have to deal with. This is difficult and in the end, you can only deal with things when you are ready...but we can't change the past, just try to make the future true.

This is a very tough but temporary situation and I'm sure you can work through it. Being kind to yourself and working through everything in small steps might help, but also knowing the long term truth and goal is important.

I note how you feel you don't want to be here and I totally feel that. It's such an easy place to admire when the pain and scale of what's on your plate is just way too much. Please try to acknowledge that thought but also see there is future beyond the mess. With each bit of energy you find, however little, some of that mess can be sorted. Little by little.

We are all here too when you need to chat or vent.

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Pema

Robby, I'm so sorry. I know this result with your wife was expected, but that doesn't make it any easier. I'm glad you're both staying open to the possibility of it being temporary.

I've been in a place that's similar to where you are. Charlotte is right that it's temporary, although I completely get that when you're in the middle of it, it feels pointless and even unbearable.

Please, I hope you'll hang in there. Lean on friends when you can. Lean on us if it helps any. We think of you every day. I mean that.

You're not alone, and it is worth it.

Love,
Pema
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Dances With Trees

You're not alone, Robby. Please talk to someone you trust. My daughter's mother committed suicide. The hole that left in my daughter's life is so huge and inconceivable she refuses to talk about it almost 20 years later. But she always weeps on the anniversary date. We love you.

Robbyv213

So my 15 year old daughter came out to me as trans this afternoon as we were talking and catching up through text. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree lol funny not funny. Lol

Anyways I don't have the words to express how proud I am of him, of his bravery and courage to tell me, even though there were some signs as to know something is going on but I didn't press him as to what. Just let him dress and cut his hair the way he wanted. It made me happy to know that we share this in common, that were both different and one in a trillion in a good way.

But as he told me his name and pronouns and other things it made me feel sad that I had not had the courage to tell him yet. And as we talked all I did was try to just support him as best as I could since he lives with my ex In wa state and I'm here in az. It made me so happy that he was finally able to have the weight of telling me go.

And yet he doesn't know that his fight is also my fight as well, in more than just as parent willing to do anything for their child.

I wanted to tell him a few months ago when he visited back around mid November. But it seemed as if the general advice was to wait. There have been a few more times since then that I just wanted to tell him but I didn't and had decided to wait till our next in person visit.

And now with his admission of who he is and how long he has felt and know this about himself, and that he has more bravery and courage to tell his dad who from past experiences and perception felt unsafe to disclose this information to was the first to come out (in terms of my son and I).

Now I feel guilt and sadness that I still haven't told him about myself, and I feel even worse for the fact that he felt I was not a person that would be someone he could come out to.

Anyways as far as I know he has only started transitioning in terms of hair style, and clothing, small parts socially. From our chat it sounds like he has not started any kind of therapy yet for any diagnosis, and is not on any type of medication either.

His mom knew for a few years now. And he said he knew since the 6th grade. Which again makes me feel ashamed, sad and guilty for how I behaved and carried myself for them to think that I would not still love him regardless.

But from his texts he said it was a huge relief and made him extremely happy to finally tell me, and I guess in the end that's all that matters. And now my son has one more person in his corner willing to do everything in their power to help him on his journey.

I haven't looked yet but I want to get him into seeing a therapist at least once a month even if it means that I give him the money that I would have used to see my therapist lol. I'm sure the process is a lot longer and more difficult for minors to get any form of diagnosis, and depending on state laws any form of medical transition will be withheld untill they're 18.

I'm not sure if the VA will be able to do anything for him, or if he can use Tricare since his mom, my ex wife remarried a man in the navy who is still active duty. I feel he would have better chances going through his Tricare than through the VA with me but I could be wrong.

So if anyone has any info for resources I can look into for my son who lives in wa state that would be amazing.

Lori Dee

That is wonderful news!

Don't beat yourself up about how you may have acted in the past. You know that was not you, and you were playing a role. I hope that this gives you some courage to speak with him privately about your journey. He might even know of a therapist or someone who can get that information for him.

I would not trust the VA or TriCare to cover it. The VA has stopped all new patient gender affirming care, and they rely on TriCare for Care in the Community payments. With the military ban on transgender service members, I can almost guarantee that it will apply to military dependents as well.

I'm afraid it might be out of pocket for you. But the cost could be low or zero if he goes through an LGBTQ Support organization like the Trevor Project. You should be able to find a local chapter near him and put them in touch with each other. Even if Trevor Project does not offer the service themselves, they will know who does in the area. It's worth checking out.

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Pema

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Hi, Robby. That's wonderful news about your son! Congratulations to both of you!

I live in Washington State, so feel free to DM me about any of this. One thing I can tell you right off the top is that gender-affirming care for minors is not only legal in Washington, but there are state laws that prohibit discrimination in health care and health insurance for youth and adults. In addition, Washington is a "sanctuary state" meaning that minors are protected by law from the intervention of others from outside the state (estranged parents, for example) to prevent them from accessing GAC. In short, WA is a great place to be transgender, especially western WA, which is truly incredibly inclusive.

As far as coming out to your son, friend, there is no time like the present. You know the saying, "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second-best time is today." When I was in my 20's, I stayed in an abusive relationship for 8 years, telling myself over and over that I needed to end it, but that now would be a terrible time; I should have done it a year earlier. Another year would go by, and I'd think that I should have done it *then*, but that today would be a nightmare. There was never a "right time." I eventually did it because it broke me and I literally couldn't function anymore. We don't have to wait for that to happen to take care of ourselves.

I have to believe that your son would love to have you not only as his supporter but as someone who understands in a unique way what it means to experience what he's going through.

And since it appears that his mother is supportive, that would seem to me to go a long way toward eliminating your (and your wife's) fear that she would pose a risk to you if you were to come out. It's hard to see how your ex can weaponize your gender identity while supporting her child's.

Are you familiar with the parable of the drowning man?

Once upon a time a man was trapped on his rooftop during a massive flood. As the waters rose, a rowboat came by, and the boatman shouted, "Jump in, I'll take you to safety!" The man replied, "No, thanks. God will save me."

The waters kept rising. A motorboat arrived, and the driver called out, "Come on, I'll rescue you!" Again, the man refused, saying, "No, thanks. God will save me."
 
The floodwaters rose even higher. A helicopter flew overhead, and the pilot lowered a rope ladder, calling, "Grab the ladder, and we'll pull you up!" The man stubbornly refused once more, "No, thanks. God will save me."
 
Eventually, the water engulfed the house, and the man drowned. When he arrived in heaven, he asked God, "Why didn't You save me?"
God replied, "I sent you a rowboat, a motorboat, and a helicopter. What more did you want?"

Robby, it looks to me like The Universe is handing you some very real opportunities. Sooner or later, you're going to have to choose to take a leap of faith - faith in yourself and in others - and let go of whatever fears are keeping you in a place that you're very clear you don't want to be. There won't be any guarantees that doing so will solve all of your problems, but the most likely way to stay stuck where you are is to keep doing what you're doing.

Your son basically just invited you to come out to him. You have a chance to tell him not only that you're transgender but about the fears that have kept you quiet. We all want our parents to acknowledge that they're ordinary, fallible people just like us. The possibilities for promoting intimacy in your relationship with your child here are truly incalculable.

And it doesn't have to be perfectly staged or worded. Raw and sincere is perfectly fine.

You can do this - the whole thing, Life. You just need to see what you're considering great risks as opportunities to move in a different direction. Life is full of those, and we have to be willing to follow them when they appear.

We love you and we believe in you.

Pema
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Robbyv213

Funny you should say that @Pema I actually did just tell my son yesterday. He was super supportive and understanding in why I had fears about telling him, and why I have fears about telling my ex. He said he would keep this between us for now until I'm ready for the world and more people to know.

His mom my ex is supportive in a way. She is trying to cope with losing all the dreams she once had for her daughter, but has made an effort to use his name and pronouns. She does seem hesitant about therapy for him. I think one of her fears is that once he gets into therapy that it will fast track medical transition, even though I'm sure our son has explained that the process for minors is definitely more strict than adults.

So my hope is that now that my ex knows that I'm aware, that hopefully we can get our son into therapy sooner than later. But she mentioned specifically using Tricare even when i mentioned multiple therapists that work with teens and some even have a sliding scale as to what you can afford to pay.

I feel I will be moving forward a lot faster once my wife and I are separated and living apart. I know it will be easier for me to make choices where I can say this is a choice for me,  not for me with my wife or family being a big factor in the process.

For the time being I think I'll remain at my job at Mercedes for now. Till I get into my new rental. That will give me time to get my vehicle ready to be more of a daily driver in az especially in the summer months where it's crazy hot. Once I get settled into my new place I will apply for the goodwill position and just go all in. Hopefully it will work out for the best since it would be a pay increase and good benefits, and hopefully allow me to have opportunities in other states like WA when it comes time to move.

I definitely want to be closer to my daughter. I don't have the funds to move out of state just yet, but the position with Goodwill should help me save more money to do so, with out having to sacrifice and sell everything I own. I'm sure I'll have to do that anyways down the road for future procedures.

Lori Dee

I'm glad you got to talk to him and discuss being discreet for both of you. I am also glad to see that you are thinking carefully about the situation and making a plan. That will certainly help you in the long run. When you get frustrated or depressed, just remember that you are working the plan and you aren't done yet. Just keep moving forward, and you'll get there.
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Robbyv213

Thank you everyone. Alot of things seemed to all hit at once. I know it's all about mindset and sometimes no matter what I do I can't pull myself out of the downward spiral. Granted I've never crashed and burned. I know each time I find myself in these spirals they seem to be more difficult to pull out of each time.

But that was before. Before I knew I had son, before I know my son accepts me and loves me regardless of how I identify or present myself. Before I knew I didn't I actually had much more to lose than I thought.

My son has given me a renewed purpose to succeed no matter what. To better myself and position so I can be in a better place to help him in his journey when he needs it.

For so long I felt lost. For so long I felt I had no purpose. Now I feel I have found a new purpose, one greater than myself. Since we all know if it was only for my self preservation I could care less, but I know it's much more than that now. Like really truly know deep down just how much allowing myself to crash and burn would affect the people in my life, especially my son, especially now since we both know we are fighting the same battles, fighting and trying to survive, and try our best to live and thrive in a world that wants us gone.

Now that I feel I have a renewed and clear purpose, I can now formulate a plan to ensure it comes to fruition. Even if there are set backs, which there will be the purpose is greater than the set backs.

I've learned so much from my son these past few days. We've been talking a lot more almost everyday now. And he is so smart and wise beyond his years. I wish I was more like him. He makes me want to be better and do better.

I don't know why it took all this and all these years to get to this point. I still had a daughter and child to live for, but then for some reason that's beyond me I felt she would be better off with out me, that most people would. I don't know why it took for us to come out to one another for me to feel other wise. But regardless of why and all the time, I'm happy it finally did.

Now all that's left is to work the plan, and do the work. So let's get to work.