Is Anyone Paying Attention?

[Stottie Girl]

I joke about this, saying that we only transition so we can sit in the stall next to another woman while she poos. Because that's really exciting to me. (?)

Yeah, we explode out lives, relationships, marriages so we can be in the same smelly, dirty room with women who are doing the least attractive thing that women do.

I would be careful joking about that, these days the morons are in charge and might take you literally and lock you up! It's Idiocracy coming true!

[Robbyv213]

So apparently the newest revelation from the famous files we all have been wanting released describes a world where almost everyone in power, world leaders, famous people, scientists, just about everyone who's is rich and powerful is included in this document. And its latest depiction is of satanic child sacrifice, canabolism, and torture.

If this is the case which is seems more and more that it is, especially since off all the files being hidden this is the least horrendous stuff in it, then as someone who is part of humanity, how screwed are we.

Like seriously. What can actually be done to people who have this much power and have been doing this far longer than what we think it has. The world's elite, World leaders, royalty, stupid crazy rich people, and people with power are all in this club.

There won't be any real justice when it comes to these individuals. They may let a few individuals from their club get sacrificed for the illusion of justice and transparency but there will be more distractions and then they will continue on as if nothing happened.

We are so screwed.

[Pema]

satanic child sacrifice, canabolism, and torture

I follow this somewhat closely, and I haven't heard these accusations. Can you please point me to where you got that?

[Stottie Girl]

I follow this somewhat closely, and I haven't heard these accusations. Can you please point me to where you got that?

Me neither. Not heard anything about torture etc.

[Robbyv213]

It has just recently started like wild fire all over social media The last day or two. 

One individual said that the Torture was most likely to ensure specific hormones released into the blood stream so that they can they can then harvest that blood for youth and regenerative purposes when transfused.

Another source stated there was a structure on the island that specifically was used for worshiping molac which is demonic in nature specifically for child sacrifice. Even the Bible has mentioned molac and not to participate in its rituals suggesting that these rituals have been going on for a lot longer than jeff was around for.

And In the latest release which was probably deleted off their doj website shows children restrained at a dinner table with what looks like humans tied like a turkey and cooked. Some of which people are saying Its art or from a movie, but then that begs to ask isn't art usually inspired by life, and why such a specific topic that also gets repeated in other forms in different parts of the world.

There are of course no real articles published or released, which I doubt there ever will be. These are all things that people have said they've read from the supposedly redacted files which were released, and they also show or provide pictures of said files, or zoning and or island blueprints documentation of said structures on the island.

[Courtney G]

Please don't rely on social media for information. That literally helped put a criminal (and possible pedo) in the White House. The "satanic sacrifice" narrative led someone to a pizzeria in DC to exact justice on those who were doing bad things in the basement. The pizzeria didn't even have a basement.

These stories reek of maga.

The "eternal life sacrifice" narratives (or whatever) is some stuff that people made up after watching Johnny Depp play Hunter S. Thompson in a movie. Literally. The discussion of "adrenochrome" was a literary device rather than a real thing. And there's been a whole load of conspiracy garage built around it.

[Stottie Girl]

Hmmm. I would be very wary of social media as a source of verifiable news facts these days.

This is the worst part of AI and social media. You begin to question everything and can't trust anything you are being told. Even seeing is no longer believing nowadays!

What these people have been up to is abhorrent but until there is concrete verifiable evidence of what you are describing I'll reserve judgement. Trouble with this rumour is it is equally possible that the worst information is being withheld!

[Lori Dee ✅]

As Courtney pointed out, these stories have been circulating on social media long before Trump and Epstein. They are used to fuel outrage and create chaos.

Some of the people who spread these "conspiracy theories" engage in LARPs (Live Action Role Play) in which they claim to have "inside" information from high-level government officials. (Like Q-Anon) They weave just enough verifiable facts into a load of fiction to promote the game.

Newcomers stumble upon the conversations, not realizing they are a LARP, and start believing it is all true. They start spreading the lies, and away it goes.

My training in Military Intelligence taught me how to spot propaganda like this. The believers will ignore anything that disproves the story and will look for anything that slightly supports it.

What makes it worse is that the media is complicit. I have watched it happen. A fake story starts going viral on social media. A news outlet reports that the story is going viral. Then, social media points to the news story to "prove" it is true.

One of the many reasons I ditched social media many years ago. It is toxic, and the truth is buried under garbage. My suggestion is for everyone to abandon it. But most people won't.

[Simplycause]

As Courtney pointed out, these stories have been circulating on social media long before Trump and Epstein. They are used to fuel outrage and create chaos.

Some of the people who spread these "conspiracy theories" engage in LARPs (Live Action Role Play) in which they claim to have "inside" information from high-level government officials. (Like Q-Anon) They weave just enough verifiable facts into a load of fiction to promote the game.

Newcomers stumble upon the conversations, not realizing they are a LARP, and start believing it is all true. They start spreading the lies, and away it goes.

My training in Military Intelligence taught me how to spot propaganda like this. The believers will ignore anything that disproves the story and will look for anything that slightly supports it.

What makes it worse is that the media is complicit. I have watched it happen. A fake story starts going viral on social media. A news outlet reports that the story is going viral. Then, social media points to the news story to "prove" it is true.

One of the many reasons I ditched social media many years ago. It is toxic, and the truth is buried under garbage. My suggestion is for everyone to abandon it. But most people won't.

Ahh Q Anon. I worked with a woman who was all in on Q. Like literally thinks that a Credenza listed on Wayfare a certain way is code for child trafficking level into it.

She's also one of the ones that believes JFK JR  is alive and he and Trump swapped places and hes legitimately running secret ops missions to take down satanic child kidnappers, Covid was a 5g super weapon.

After I left retail, I started with an Engineering firm and she was a cad drawer. And when Covid was burning through Italy, that didn't have any sort of 5g network she was with the surveying team one day and goes so, we all know that GPS and 5G is what's causing Covid right and my boss looked at her and goes half our instruments are GPS, if it caused Covid we'd of been sick the last 20 years.

She was gone a few weeks later. And she was perfectly nice, but yeah anything that was said on any alternative media was automatically true and anything legitimately reported was a lie.

[Lori Dee ✅]

There is an old saying that you can't fix stupid... but duct tape muffles the sound a bit.

🤣

[Stottie Girl]

There is an old saying that you can't fix stupid... but duct tape muffles the sound a bit.

🤣

PSMSL!

You've got to laugh! I don't want to shut my mind off to what's going on in the world but it's getting hard!

I used to have faith in BBC news as they seemed to annoy both sides of the political spectrum so I figured they must be balanced! But then this deliberate re-editing of Trumps Capital Hill speech was revealed and I no longer trust them. Not a fan of Trump by any means but also not a fan of media cutting and pasting speeches to change what someone is saying either. BBC deserves to get its arses kicked for that one.

As for social Media. Being of a certain age means I can take it or leave it (Yes, I understand the irony of posting that on a social media website!) and have a healthy suspicion of the content on there.

[Robbyv213]

If there is anything we've learned is that most conspiracy theories have some truth. How many have already been proven right.

But yes, it's just eye opening with how certain theories make total sense. Then if you look at the entire world through that lens you can connect the dots. Like why does every school mandate all children get photos taken? And those photos are outsource to a private company that has databases to store all these pictures of young kids. Which can go in multiple directions of facial recognition data over time or so that people in high places can buy them and scout them....

Just saying that when you look at the entire world and all the systems built in society by the people in power it really does make one Wonder and start to believe that everything is connected and done on purpose to manufacture everything that we've been dealing with as people trying to survive in this world. The ultra super rich and powerful and everyone else.

It will definitely be interesting in years to come to see how much of these conspiracy theories actually get proven right.

[Pema]

If there is anything we've learned is that most conspiracy theories have some truth.

Respectfully, I disagree. I think the vast majority throughout history have been false.

How many have already been proven right.

I have yet to see a spreadsheet of the list of all of them and their confirmation status. But "theories" for which there is zero evidence can literally never be shown to be accurate.

Like why does every school mandate all children get photos taken?

There are many possible justifications for doing this, many of them very sensible. And like anything else, there are many ways that this information can be misused and abused.

I agree with you that we are living in a time of vastly disproportionately distributed wealth and power and that the powerful are using and abusing their enormous resources to subjugate and deprive the majority of people of rights and quality of life. But we don't have to invent theories. It's enough to see exactly what is happening and call it for what it is. It doesn't have to be farfetched or mastermind-level evil; it can just be garden-variety greed and corruption.

It will definitely be interesting in years to come to see how much of these conspiracy theories actually get proven right.

I just don't think anybody's going to maintain statistics on how well these conspiracy theoreticians perform.

For many years, my father would tell me about his wife's uncanny luck at the riverboat casino. "She came home the other night and had won $500 again!" I was always skeptical. Years later he told me that he eventually found out about the multiple credit cards she had maxed out on her way to losing more than $200,000.

As they say: Even a broken clock is right twice a day. (But the other 1438 minutes, it's wrong.)

[Courtney G]

I had my first school photo taken around 1971 and my last one in the mid 80s. There was no face recognition, no databases, no computers, no internet.

All kids were required to participate. Maybe there were a few exceptions, but it was rare.

The photos were contracted out to private companies.

Occam's razor.


They're just school photos, not some Deep State plot.
I'm not going to talk about this anymore because it's absurd. Also, the earth is round and "chemtrails" aren't real, and trump lost in 2020.

Have a nice day.

[Lori Dee ✅]

I had my first school photo taken around 1971 and my last one in the mid 80s. There was no face recognition, no databases, no computers, no internet.

I have my school photos from the 60s. Good luck identifying me in those. 😆

[Robbyv213]

Wow I really seemed to hit a nerve here.

[Courtney G]

Well, people's belief in things that aren't true put a fascist dictator in the White House, so there's that.

[MaryT]

I haven't really had much interest in the Epstein files, if that is what is being discussed.  However, I think that it has become one of the biggest and most pointless witch hunts in history.  Just proving that someone met or even socialised with a criminal is not proving that they knew of or approved of what was going on but it is already destroying careers.

Whenever authorities ask for witnesses to come forward, witnesses come forward.  In an age without newspapers, mass media, social media or telephones or even regular mail, and even in small and relatively remote communities, there was no shortage of witnesses who were prepared to accuse their neighbours of being in league with Satan and performing evil miracles that defied the laws of nature.  False witnesses can come forward for many reasons, including malice, money and even mental illness.

As has been pointed out, some of the accusations on social media seem about as likely as those made in, e.g., 17th C Salem but even the more plausible accusations are not necessarily true.  In an age of mass media, I believe that wrongful convictions could occur because the Prosecution highlights hundreds of plausible accusations without a jury getting to consider the thousands of impossible accusations.

It may be because I haven't been paying enough attention but I am not even aware of any proven offence in the Epstein case that is illegal in Britain, which has a lower age of consent than the USA.

[Stottie Girl]

Don't take it to heart @Robyv213. We are all just a bit sceptical of conspiracy theories. The earth is flat, the iluminati, Roswell, we didn't land on the moon etc etc. There are a lot of tinfoil hat conspiricies getting bandied around on social media and people just get a bit exasperated.

Still, the world would be a boring place if we all thought the same way. Embrace the differences and agree to disagree.

[Stottie Girl]

I wouldn't say that @MaryT. There's hell on in the UK today over Peter Mandleson's dealings with Epstein. It looks like he has been either giving away or maybe even selling top secret government information to Epstein. The police are now looking at a possible criminal prosecution.

Kier Starmers position is looking very precarious as he appointed him US ambassador even though he knew he had still had dealings with Epstein after he was released for jail. His own MPs rebelled against him forcing him to release the appointment briefing notes today.

Plus Prince Andrew has clearly been using Epstein for a high class prostitution service. I'm not sure on the legality of prostitution in the UK but the fact he appears to have been doing it in state owned palaces and other Royal buildings is a scandal at the very least.