Is Anyone Paying Attention?

[Dances With Trees]

I'm not a big conspiracy fan and generally averse to hyperbole in any media context. However, I agree with Robby that a different set of rules, a different kind of justice, seem to apply to the rich and powerful than to the rest of us. And I agree with Mary that many lives have been ruined or, at the very least, made worse by all the brouhaha. Where I respectfully disagree, is this adverse impact seems to be affecting victims far more than the innocent bystanders who just happened to hang out with Epstein following his conviction for solicitation of prostitution, or whatever the minor charge to which he plead guilty. Ghislaine got a puppy. I'm happy for her. 

[MaryT]

I wouldn't say that @MaryT. There's hell on in the UK today over Peter Mandleson's dealings with Epstein. It looks like he has been either giving away or maybe even selling top secret government information to Epstein. The police are now looking at a possible criminal prosecution.

Kier Starmers position is looking very precarious as he appointed him US ambassador even though he knew he had still had dealings with Epstein after he was released for jail. His own MPs rebelled against him forcing him to release the appointment briefing notes today.

Plus Prince Andrew has clearly been using Epstein for a high class prostitution service. I'm not sure on the legality of prostitution in the UK but the fact he appears to have been doing it in state owned palaces and other Royal buildings is a scandal at the very least.

I don't think that the allegations against Mandelson and Andrew Windsor have been officially proven yet.  Andrew did pay a civil settlement while still denying responsibility.  Even the prostitution aspect might be legally complex in British law, as Epstein's sex parties seem to have cost him money rather than gotten him immoral earnings, and even if Andrew did use prostitutes sent to him by Epstein, he may not be the one that paid them.

[Stottie Girl]

I don't think that the allegations against Mandelson and Andrew Windsor have been officially proven yet.  Andrew did pay a civil settlement while still denying responsibility.  Even the prostitution aspect might be legally complex in British law, as Epstein's sex parties seem to have cost him money rather than gotten him immoral earnings, and even if Andrew did use prostitutes sent to him by Epstein, he may not be the one that paid them.

There are documents that look very much like Epstein was funnelling money into Mandlesson's (whilst he was a minister) and his husbands accounts. The other body of evidence seems to be circumstantial but there is so much of it pointing in the same direction. There are allegations that Epstein was supplying information to the Russians and if true you have a Government minister in a very close relationship with and receiving money from a known peadophile who is possibly selling or handing information to the "enemy".

A lot of things that Mandlesson has been up to was well documented and the scandal has current weight due to Starmer's incredibly poor judgement in appointing him US ambassador. I actually think Starmer might end up falling over this.

None of this will help victims of course and I wonder if people in America are even aware of it.

[Lori Dee ✅]

We have been watching all of the fallout.

But, at this point, that is all we can do until those in authority take action. So far, it is all just an allegation, and no criminal charges have been filed.

We will have to wait and see what happens next.

Keep paying attention.