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Started by Lori Dee, February 03, 2025, 02:52:58 PM

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davina61

Just a thought but all the places that dumb idiot attacked are oil producers.
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Stottie Girl

I pretty much agrree with everything there Lori. I was not happy when we went into gulf war 2 (gulf war 1 was a liberation so not disputing that) it always seemed a flimsy pretense about WMD's and we were right to call it out. Was an absoloute shambles costing the lives of thousands. Here we are again, gulf war 3 except Trump thinks he can topple a regime just by bombing from above. When has that ever worked? Look how destabilised the gulf is right now. Israel and it's puppet Trump are the agressors here. We know it's about oil Donald just as it was in Venezuela.

If he wants to fight then pick a justified one, Ukraine needs our help so badly and theirs is a just fight.

Is Iran a terrible and viscous state? Yes, of course it is but so are many other states. You can't go around arbitrarily attacking one state because it has oil and ignore all the other attrocities.

Iran, like it or loathe it, is a sovereign nation (as was Venezuela for the record). They have the right to choose their own destiny. If they choose to build nuclear weapons then I would rather they didn't but who am I to argue when my country developed them? If it's about dangerous countries having nukes then how on earth has North Korea not been invaded? Israel has nukes and Iran is living under the fear of that so is it any wonder they want their own as a deterrent?

The UK has for once decided not to be at the beck and call of every US president and I'm proud of our goverments stance. Trump says he's unhappy with the UK and insulted Starmer. Good, that means we are doing something right! For the record, insulting Starmer is our job!

Sorry, you touched a nerve there Lori! Rant over. Bloody politicans!
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Courtney G

America was colonized by religious zealots but our founding fathers knew that religious beliefs must never be its cornerstones. They enshrined that ideology when they framed our system of governing.

There are 2 billion muslims in the world (about a quarter of its population) but walk around the U.S. South and you'd think they're a crazy fringe group. And a primary tenet to most religious types is that theirs is the only true one and that all others should be destroyed.

For context, there are 2.3 billion christians.

White people are a minority in the world. There are more black people and many more Chinese people. Yet, in the U.S. we treat everyone who is not white as a minority.

We fight over religious beliefs, land, race and oil. It's foolish. In the U.S., uneducated white Christians love to believe that poor, non-white people are the problem and rich white people are the solution. trump has been a failure as a businessman but they created a fake "Trump Tower" TV set, gave him a script to read and made up a false reality in which he's a genius deal-maker. Uneducated white people ate it up. It got him elected. This is very well-documented.

This is where we're at. Racist white Christians woke up, spoke up, and made uninformed decisions.

By the way, I'm not suggesting that all Christians (or white people) are racists, nor am I saying that none of them are educated. I'm just saying that trump appealed to/worked up the monster inside of a specific subgroup of us. The one that hates that they aren't in charge of everything, that they have to share things equally with people who aren't white or Christian or who don't generally fall in line and defer all power to the Rich Old White Guys, as we've been taught we're supposed to do. Think about AOC or Ilhan Omar or Jasmine Crockett. Can you guess why they are hated so viciously?

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Stottie Girl

Ooh don't get me started on abrahamic organised religion! Yes, they may have done some good but the carnage that it has been and is still responsible for is insane.

We are all human (even Trump). God, if he exists, isn't going to only save one group and smite the others. We are all birds of a feather when it boils down to it.

It's noticable there haven't been that many buddhist wars over the centuries.
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Quote from: Dances With Trees on February 16, 2026, 08:26:44 PMYou've got to pick up every stitch...
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It's the season of the "witch burning" for this administration.

Lori Dee

My point was not about religion. There is nothing wrong with religion in and of itself, nor was the point to frame one religion over another.

My point was that the political movement, known as Christian Nationalism, has infiltrated down into the command and staff of our military, and the troops who are hearing these messages are offended by them. They recognize that they swore to uphold the Constitution, which guarantees freedom of religion and its expression.

However, when political operatives use religion (any religion) as a motive for political, even criminal action, then a stop must be put in place. It is illegal for any government official to declare war or take military action without Congressional approval, except in cases of imminent threat or self-defense.

Congress is now deciding what to do to rein in the actions that have created hostilities in the Middle East. However, by the time Congress makes a decision, the damage will already be done.

Meanwhile, the military actions in Venezuela have disappeared from the media. There seems to be no further interest in Trump's claim that he will do a "friendly takeover" of Cuba. And little has been mentioned so far about military action in Ecuador, except that we are helping that government.

We are not the World Police Force, and our military services are not law enforcement. We should not be intervening in the issues of a sovereign country without permission, without approval from Congress or the American people.

We get bent out of shape when we hear about other countries meddling in our elections (true or not). So why would we have any authority to meddle in the affairs of another country at all? It is none of our business, and we don't like it if someone does that to us.
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Stottie Girl

Dead right Lori. There are horrors going on in world all the time where we do nothing and turn the other cheek. In times like this I wish the UN would have a bigger role and had never introduced the power of Veto.

By the way, I'm not having a go at individuals faith either mind, Most people of faith lead good lives. It's just calling out all the bad that went on historically, Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, The Reformation, Muslim fundamentalism and so on. It's been going on for centuries.

I don't know anything about christian nationalism, though I presume that's bible belt stuff? Don't know enough about it to pass comment really.
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