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Lori Dee

Quote from: Jen T. on September 15, 2025, 10:03:27 PMI know she's still in there and I'm not giving up on her.

Jen, we were just discussing something similar with Elizabeth. Check out some of the replies to her post. Maybe there is something there that can provide some inspiration.

https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,251994.msg2314741.html#msg2314741

Never let the negative thoughts get the better of you. In psychology, we call them ANTs or NATs. Automatic Negative Thoughts are the negative self-talk that we all experience. The best way to counter them is to "prove" they are not true.

For example, "Nothing good ever happens to me." That is easy enough to prove false by just remembering the good things that have happened.

"If I come out everyone will reject me and I'll be more alone than ever." That is a real fear that many of us have faced. The keyword here is "everyone". No, not "everyone" will reject you. Some might, but others will not.

"I don't have the strength or the courage or the confidence to see it all the way through. When it gets too hard I'll just give up." Look back at your life and all of the hardships you have ever faced. Some seemed insurmountable, and yet you are still here. No problem that you have ever faced has beaten you, and they never will as long as you don't give up.

"Just who the hell do you think you are? You don't deserve to be happy. Life dealt you a hand you don't like and that's just too bad. Suck it up and drop this fantasy." You are Jen. Yes, sometimes life sucks, but you find a way through. Deep inside, you know who you are. It is not a fantasy. It is more real than that negative voice in your head. By embracing who we know that we are, we unburden ourselves and we become happier people. The more that this happens, it reinforces our confidence that we are on the correct path. Smack that devil off your shoulder because Jen is in charge here. 🙂
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@Jen T.
Dear Jen:
Thank you for opening up, trusting us and sharing your feelings here.

Never give up...
        yes, as you stated, "I know she's still in there and I'm not giving up on her."

Please keep posting, venting and writing out your feelings.... no judgement
coming from any of us here on the Forum. 

This is your safe sanctuary.

We will keep reading and we will give your our ears to listen and our
shoulders for you to lean on....  keep on keeping on and for you please
hang on to peace, love and happiness,

As @Lori Dee mentioned in her previous posting...
take a look at the LINK with the posting and thread regarding another member
that has written about similar issues as you have written about for yourself...
lots of helpful information and suggestions that may help you.... 
.

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Quote from: Jen T. on September 15, 2025, 10:03:27 PMEarlier in the summer, when I first discovered this community and I came out to my therapist, it was a whirlwind of energy and excitement and emotion; nearly all of it positive. For the first time ever I was really hopeful that I actually could get over my fear and finally move forward and let people see on the outside what I'd been feeling inside for decades. The last couple of weeks have been rather the opposite.

The fear is back. "If I come out everyone will reject me and I'll be more alone than ever."

The self-doubt is back. "I don't have the strength or the courage or the confidence to see it all the way through. When it gets too hard I'll just give up."

Even the good old fashioned self-hatred. "Just who the hell do you think you are? You don't deserve to be happy. Life dealt you a hand you don't like and that's just too bad. Suck it up and drop this fantasy."

This all comes after spending eleven weeks with a walking boot and a cane as I recovered from a broken foot. That experience really wasn't as bad as it sounds but it had me thinking of all the other physical challenges I'll be dragging into my transition. I've got a bad back, two arthritic knees and need more dental work than I can possibly afford. On top of that there's sleep apnea, morbid obesity and baldness.

So, when I spend time inside my own head swirling that all around the whirlwind of excitement becomes a giant depression tornado. I've taken up residence in the eye of that storm before and (barely) lived through it. Not looking to live there again. 

I know ups and downs are normal and this down period will pass but the longer it goes on the worse it feels. I did do something fun the other day. I found a school photo of me in 1988 at age 15 and used AI to feminize it, complete with big 80's hair. 😀 It's my new favorite photo of me. It's the person I lived every day as a teenager wishing I could be.

I know she's still in there and I'm not giving up on her.
Thanks for reading.

Peace, love and happiness,

Jen

Hey Little Sister!

I know how very easy it can be to slip into fear mode when so very many things seem to sit between where you are... and where you truly want to be in your life... unknowns about what it could take to get there... or even if we can get there at all... provide a void into which all our deepest fears come to do their thing...

Consider giving equal time in your mind to the opposites of what these fears are whispering in your ear... Hope always deserves equal time in all matters of consideration.

We can easily view this all as overwhelmingly complex but, it is as simple as a decision to wake up each day and be yourself. You are surrounded here with folks who have had all the same fears and found their way to lives that far better serve the needs of the souls within. The power to do that resides in you as well girl!

QuoteI know she's still in there and I'm not giving up on her.

Amazing things await you brave sister...

Hugs!

A💕


"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

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Jen T.

It's been over a month since my last entry because I just didn't have anything new to say. I guess I could fill this blog with day-to-day life stuff but it would be pretty boring. I have been dealing with a lot of frustration lately, though and I have to get it out. So, apologies if this post turns out sounding a lot like my last one but this is my space to share my thoughts and feelings and you are under no obligation to read it. 😝

As I've said before, the early days of the summer were filled with excitement and anticipation and lots of self-discovery. Then came the period of doubt, fear and anger. Now I'm just stuck. Constantly frustrated that I can't figure out how to take the giant leap. Or find the courage to. I need to do something to at least feel like I'm moving forward but I don't know what that is. Coming here and writing it down helps but I keep feeling like I need something more tangible. What that is, I have no idea.

Sorry not sorry for sounding like a broken record. 😆
Thanks for reading.


Peace, love and happiness,

Jen

Lori Dee

Quote from: Jen T. on October 25, 2025, 10:51:20 PMI need to do something to at least feel like I'm moving forward but I don't know what that is. Coming here and writing it down helps but I keep feeling like I need something more tangible. What that is, I have no idea.

Hi Jen,

I know that feeling well. I would like to help.

You don't have to post it here unless you are comfortable doing so, but I would suggest you make a list of things you want to accomplish. They do not need to be in any order.

This can help you see how these things might be related. For example, to do number 3, you must first do number 5 on the list. Then you can order the list in a way to see in what order you might need to do them. Some things can be done at any time, or not at all, but still are things you want to do.

If you would like help brainstorming this, but do not want to post it, feel free to PM me. I am happy to help if I can. If you would rather not, that is okay too.

I hope this helps.
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QuoteConstantly frustrated that I can't figure out how to take the giant leap.

Hey Jen!

No giant leaps are needed sister... very small steps are our friend! Lori's suggestion is a very sound one indeed... make a list of things you want to accomplish even if they are things you don't see as possible to do at this point in time... much that we can view as impossible... is entirely possible and a list would make a fine starting point... I know you are carrying a lot of fears but, fears can be tamed and we can move past them to the places we need to go.

Sending the best hopes and wishes your way sister!

A💕
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment" ... Ralph Waldo Emerson 🌸

"The individual has always had to struggle from being overwhelmed by the tribe... But, no price is too high for the privilege of owning yourself" ... Rudyard Kipling 🌸

Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

Ashley's Corner: https://www.susans.org/index.php/topic,247549.0.html 🌻

Pema

Hi, Jen. You're absolutely right that this is your blog, and you can say whatever you want in it. I'm glad you came back and shared what you're feeling here.

I feel like the things I want to say will either sound trite or trivial or impossible, but I still want to say them - not only because I really truly believe them but because I think they do make a significant difference when realized.

As Ashley said, giant leaps aren't necessary. I'd even argue that this is a journey that is best approached with small, carefully thought-out steps. But I'm a big fan of "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."

For me, and I think for most people (even if they're not aware of it), what matters most is how we feel about ourselves inside. Yes, it's validating and helpful to have other people reflect what we want to see in ourselves, but if we're depending on that for our sense of who we are, then we're not actually connected to who we really are. I genuinely believe that our primary assignment on Earth is to understand at the deepest level possible who we are. That takes a lot of shedding of societal programming and surrendering and accepting what is true - even the parts we've been led to think are unappealing - and seeing and loving ourselves fully.

Look at how many of us are here and have been here over the years. See how we all know at some level that we are not who we were told we were? We know it, Jen - just like you do. Overcoming that cultural barrier to get to a point where we can reject those constraints and say, "No. This is who I am." requires self love and confidence that are not taught to most of us. Even worse, it's presented as being foolish or selfish or worse.

I went through a period of denial and internal debate, and I found that far more maddening than just accepting it. For me, it always came back to "Well, I'm certainly not a man;" that fact was just undeniable. Maybe not physiologically, but emotionally, mentally, even spiritually. So when I became exhausted with the daily demands coming from inside my own head to justify my contention that I'm transgender, I decided to embrace that truth and try to cultivate my awareness of myself as a woman.

Sure, I did things like acquiring nice women's underwear and shirts, but most of what I did was internal. I allowed myself to feel myself as a woman. I won't lie to you; sometimes it felt awkward or forced. Sometimes it was frustrating because I just "didn't feel it." But the times that I did... Those were literally the only times when I had complete clarity about who I am. The more I welcomed and had those experiences, the clearer the truth became to me, even in the times when I didn't feel it. And the more familiar this feeling this became, the more often I'd experience it. Occasionally I'd feel frustrated because I couldn't find a way to "get there." A counselor I was seeing at the time said, "Just relax into it. If you feel like you're having to work at it, you're probably pushing too hard." I found that to be true - and a difficult line to walk.

I honestly believe that, at this point anyway, it's mostly about surrendering, accepting, and allowing. At the risk of stereotyping, I think that's a more feminine approach than what had become my go-to method over my 61 years, so just learning to do that was a hurdle for me.

So, in summary, I don't think you "need to do" anything right now other than to let yourself be who you are and love yourself for being you. When that becomes a habit, what other people will think will become less relevant, and you will feel what your next (small) step should be.

Maybe that doesn't feel like "moving forward," but it's actually huge progress. When people decide to put in a garden, they want to start by putting plants in the ground. But making sure the soil has the right composition and texture and drainage and that there's access to light and water... Those foundational steps are really the most important ones. We humans are no different.

"Those who wish to be
Must put aside the alienation
Get on with the fascination
The real relation
The underlying theme"


You've got this, Jen. You know who you are.
"Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us or we find it not." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Dances With Trees

I'm experiencing something so similar, Jen! Your words and the loving responses from so many are so appreciated.

Jen T.

#48
Thanks everyone for the words of encouragement. It means a lot to me to hear from people who have walked this path before me.

I think I should clarify something though. When I said "giant leap" I was talking about coming out. The door to the closet I'm in feels massive, like the Black Gates of Mordor. The time will come eventually but right now I'm not in a position where I feel like I could survive the potential wreckage of turning my life upside down.

I had a longer reply that I was composing but I was away too long and lost it. Naturally, I can't remember most of it 🤪

And @Pema you keep on quoting Rush!

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@Jen T.
Dear Jen:
In all of our members journeys, we all have times of excitement and new good things
happening frequently, and then as you mentioned for yourself, all of a sudden there is
a feeling of being stuck and frustrated... and nothing happening that you feel is not
worth talking about on your blog and postings around the Forum.

Please note, it is the normal happenings, successes and failures, and other life events
that is of interest to your readers and followers. 
You are not alone, we have all been there with all of those feelings.

The very good thing about your blog and postings on the Forum is when you post not-so-good
things, failures or disappointments ... we will come to your side, offer our shoulders
for you to lean on and our ears to listen.  On the other hand, when you post your good
news, successes, and progress we will all give you our hugs and congratulations.

It is good and productive to write about all of these things on your Blog which is your
online journal.  Writing it down gives you more insight about your situation and perhaps
figuring out what you have to do to take positive steps to overcome any difficulties and
improve your situation.

Personally, for me, in addition to my Forum Blog threads and postings, I keep an old-school
pen and paper journal with colorful doodling, snapshots of photos, handwritten notes, and
correspondence and cards  from friends, etc. 

On many cold and rainy nights, I can be found paging through my journal with laughter or
sometimes tears in my eyes.

Along with the rest of your avid readers and followers I will be eagerly looking for your future
postings on your blog and elsewhere around the Forum.

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Sarah B

Hi Jen

I have put together a few ideas for you to consider and I hope they can give you some inspiration, so that you can move forward in your life.

Moving Forward
I have been reading your blog "Discovering Jen" and noted that you seem to be in a "holding pattern", "Stuck" or "you don't know how to leap forward".  The way forward, regardless of the path you take, life will still go on and that is what happened to me.  I was single and 30 at the time.  I had a job, social life, study and medical treatment along the way.  Although our circumstances are different there are similarities.

So, to move "forward" in your case you need to have a "long term goal".  What is your long term goal over the next one to three years, full time social transition, partial social transition with medical steps, medication only with private presentation, another path?  Your answer will guide the order and the pace you take in achieving that goal.

What matters most
I would put safety first, which means consider keeping your life private in this matter, until you are ready to share with someone.  Be totally honest with your therapist who will provide you with the guidance you need so that you can move forward.  Continue with your thoughts in "Discovering Jen" as this gives you a private outlet to write and it documents your journey.  That space will let you breathe and plan.

Your fear of rejection is valid, yet you must consider the other side of the coin and that is you need to leave room for acceptance.  You wrote about your wife and I see possibilities there.  She might surprise you in good ways.  Your daughter could also possibly help you, offering guidance on fashion choices that fit your life.  I was lucky that my family accepted me and I left family and friends behind, so as to avoid the negativity.  I did not want the ramifications of what I was doing to befall them.

I would claim your name with pride Jen.  If Jen Marie feels right to you, then your choice of names is yours to behold just like it was with me.  Each time someone uses your name it lifts the weight off your shoulders a little bit more.

You have mentioned your health problems.  Sleep apnea, foot issues, back and knee issues, dental work, weight and the hair loss all matter.  Your health constraints are there and they need care.  You and your doctors are the ones who will help you in this area.  Step by step you can improve your comfort, energy and your outlook on life.

I know you want movement in going "forward" even though you feel stuck.  Small wins, or "inch by inch" rings a bell.  One habit at a time builds momentum.  So the following are suggested things to do while you move forward.

Practical steps
Consider starting with what you can control in private.  Pick one samll habit that feels safe, repeat it each day until it becomes easy, then add the next step.  Keep a simple note so you can see your prgress grow and "Discovering Jen" is the ideal place to do that.

Set up facial hair removal with a simple plan.  Ask about laser for dark hairs then electrolysis for lighter or remaining hairs.  Commit to a regular schedule that you can keep.  Improve your voice skills in private.  There are a lot of YouTube videos for that.  I used to practice by singing on my way to swimming training mimicking female voices.  Practice for ten minutes a day.  Record a short hello on day one then another after two weeks.  Listen for ease and resonance rather than chasing high notes.

Support your body with joint friendly movements.  Start with short walks or walking in water.  This can be a gentle way to start off as the water will take the pressure off your knees.  You only have to walk as far as the water covers your chest then turn around then walk back.  This way you will not have to tread water!  Keep a tiny log so you can see real progress.  Protect your sleep by using your apnea treatment as prescribed and review any issues with your clinician.

Shape a quiet wardrobe you can use at home.  Pick soft basics that read as lounge wear.  Tees, leggings or even pyjamas.  Learn your sizes with a tape at home.  Add small accessories that make you smile for an easy win.

Keep your therapy sessions going.  Rehearse a script with your therapist so the words feel natural when the time is right to come out to your wife if you decide that is what you want to do.  Also you could create a list, maybe in your mind, of who you would feel safe to tell and whether they would accept you or not, for who you truly are.  This was something my uncle and I did, before I changed my life around.

In addition, prepare your medical path quietly.  That includes your current health issues and any future ones like HRT if you decide to go down that path the most important thing you can do is have a backup plan that you can use if plans or circumstances change suddenly.

HRT information
If you consider HRT then treat it as medical care that needs an individual risk assessment with your therapist, if not then a gender informed clinican.  Back issues, knee issues, sleep apnea, weight and family history all need to be taken into account.  Your therapist or a gender informed clinician can explain your options.

If HRT is not wanted or needed then focus on building congruence through non medical steps.  Use small repeatable actions you can do in private each day.  Keep safety and privacy at the front of your mind.  Over time these steps make the outside feel closer to who you know yourself to be.  Think of it as small repeatable steps that make the outside feel closer to who Jen is inside.

From my perspective
The way forward regardless of the path you take, life will still go on and this is what happened to me.  I was single and 30 at the time.  I had a job, social life, study and medical treatment along the way.  Although our circumstances are different.  There are similarities.

I had to bide my time before surgery, I would have had surgery the first day if I could have, however the rules said I had to wait two years.  In the meantime I continued living my life as Sarah.  Life did not stop for me and I took each step as it came, doing what was necessary.

My hair was already long before surgery.  Facial hair removal took about a year and a half.  I was lucky that I did not have much other body hair to manage.  I kept my history private and I still do.  Only a couple of doctors knew.  My family found out through my uncle.  I moved through each day without thinking about what I was doing.  I suppose the long term plan was surgery and I think that was what happened when I first came to Sydney and I spoke with a counsellor at a refuge house.  I guess in a sense this was my first time I revealed what I wanted, surgery in the long run, I know I did not plan what I was going to say or do, so I just winged it.

A simple plan
Concentrate on working on your health issues and maintain your therapy sessions, to help you as you move forward.  Let Jen shine through, by implementing practical steps that you can do as mentioned earlier and finally clarify your long term goals, especially the one around coming out by planning, drafting or talking with your therapist about telling one or two people when you feel safe and ready to do so.

Some final thoughts
Jen you are welcome here exactly as you are, no matter what.  Whatever pace you choose, whatever path you take, your voice will be heard and your privacy respected.  Share small wins or hard days and we will walk beside you.  Whether you focus on health, therapy, building your congruence with quiet daily habits or explore HRT with a clinician.  You will find acceptance here on Susan's.  You are not alone while you plan your long term goal and take each step forward.  We will be here with you.


Take care and all the best for the future.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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Jen T.

@Sarah B thank you so much for such an amazing reply. You've given me a lot to think about and some ideas that I hadn't considered. I'm a mess when it comes to planning things. I have thoughts or vague feelings about what I want to accomplish but I have a hard time getting those thoughts organized. I operate much better when someone else comes up with the plan. It's likely that many of my first steps in  transitioning will be very private ones, so there is definitely a need for me to be able to organize them on my own.

QuoteYour fear of rejection is valid, yet you must consider the other side of the coin and that is you need to leave room for acceptance.  You wrote about your wife and I see possibilities there.

That she'll surprise me is my fondest wish. Our relationship is somewhat strained of late and that wish seems to be moving ever further away from reality. Having said that, it's not over until it's over.👍
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Sarah B

Hi Jen

Thank you so much for your kind words.  I thought that was what you needed and the other members provided words of wisdom and as you have said you have a lot to think about now.  You have an outline of things you can do, but it is up to you to fill in the details.

One of the main attributes that surround me is being absolutely private in regards to my medical condition and it has served me extremely well over the years.

I hope you will be able to sort out your problems with your wife.  Take care and all the best for the future.

Best Wishes Always
Sarah B
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@Jen T.
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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