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Started by Jillian-TG, December 15, 2025, 03:42:08 PM

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ChrissyRyan

It is probably correct to say that most heterosexual CIS women would not prefer a partner who is MTF or a cross dresser.  I have no data to support that but it seems to be correct.

It is a different matter completely to say this should not be the case.  It would be nice if acceptance is the case, or specifically, in any one specific case that involves a MTF or cross dresser and the partner.

If you can achieve a lasting breakthrough, a truly accepting relationship with crossdressing or as a MTF, that would be great for you.

This sounds as if mutual counseling may be helpful.  However she may not wish it. 

I wish you the best result of all of this.  Maybe there can be an effective solution.






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Pema

I'm so sorry, Jillian. I guess I'd appreciate the clarity about where she really is with it all, but that that wouldn't make it any easier to adjust to it.

I find this part:

Quote from: Jillian-TG on December 29, 2025, 10:52:05 AMI value that side of my personality as more important than her or her feelings.

a bit disturbing. I don't see it at all as "a side of your personality." It is fundamentally who you are. And "her feelings" are hers; you don't control them, only she can. So this statement from her feels like a very false equivalence that reads to me in essence as "I value my emotional comfort above your right to be authentic."

But that's me. I know you'll find your footing and figure out what is best for you. We will be here to support you along the way.

Love,
Pema
"Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us or we find it not." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Jillian-TG

Quote from: Pema on December 29, 2025, 01:23:00 PMI'm so sorry, Jillian. I guess I'd appreciate the clarity about where she really is with it all, but that that wouldn't make it any easier to adjust to it.

I find this part:

a bit disturbing. I don't see it at all as "a side of your personality." It is fundamentally who you are. And "her feelings" are hers; you don't control them, only she can. So this statement from her feels like a very false equivalence that reads to me in essence as "I value my emotional comfort above your right to be authentic."

But that's me. I know you'll find your footing and figure out what is best for you. We will be here to support you along the way.

Love,
Pema
The part that you highlighted is the part that bothers me a lot. This isn't a preference for me because if I could choose then I sure as heck wouldn't choose the path of drama and trouble. Ironically we have discussed that aspect before and I really thought she understood that aspect. We discussed it on our most recent vacation and she literally had tears in her eyes as I explained myself and how I wished I was not this way. I thought I saw the penny drop and she actually understood...

But maybe it's simply information overload for her as she digests things, so what resonates one day and is understood, becomes forgotten the next day.

katiebee

One thing I've seen a lot expressed by the wives who will come to various support forums in shock after finding out is that there's a real mourning/grieving process. The life they thought they had is falling out from underneath them. They had a certain image in their head of the person they married, and suddenly that bedrock in their lives seems completely alien. Spouses, especially those who've lived out most of their adult lives in that marriage, have their own totally different but equally painful suffering from gender dysphoria. You've had decades to come to terms with this, find coping mechanisms (however unhealthy or unsustainable), and generally wrap your head around your dysphoria. She has not. What seems like hot and cold waffling on her part is likely her speeding through the stages of grief over the loss of the life she thought she was going to have, and of that image of you in her head.

Marriage counseling is always a good idea when times are hard and I'd always encourage it to anyone struggling, but I would also suggest both of you talk to that therapist individually as well to help each of you with the pain you're going through.

I'm sorry you're going through this. Having that path seem to open up, then shut right away is heartbreaking. I really hope both of you find happiness, whatever that means and however it looks for each of you!