Do you think there is a reason we are created transgender?

[CosmicJoke]

Hi everyone. I have heard many people say that there is no reason we are created transgender and it just is. I have found that I actually learned more about gender than I probably would have if I was cisgender.

If you are born into a life where your identity was a problem to such an extreme degree; then chances are you are going to study why that is. You are going to learn about gender and how to make the changes you need to yourself and the rest of the world.

I think that if I wasn't transgender I probably never would have even walked that path. My life would probably be something completely different that isn't even about embarking on that path. That scares me to think about to be honest.

I'm just interested in what some of your thoughts are on this? Why do you think we are created transgender? Is there a reason or not?

[Lori Dee ✅]

Let me preface my reply with a disclaimer:
My spiritual beliefs are different from those of most people. I spent a lot of time searching for answers, and now that my questions have been answered, they stand apart from mainstream religions.

In answer to your question, I say yes, and no. I believe that we were created (as a species) to be part of the Divine Plan and that we have a specific role in it. But I do not believe that each individual was specifically designed to fill a purpose. The Creator of Worlds has more important things to do than listen to the whims and whines of people.

The way that the Universe was created was such that the Creator experiences Life through us. We were designed for a variety of looks, behaviors, and biology. That provides a variety of experiences, and when you have groups of people with all their differences, you have an even wider variety. Yet, each of us still retains our own Free Will.

Within all the varieties that constitute an expression of Life, there are people with genetic, environmental, mental, emotional, and geographic differences. All of these matter, and all of us are included. Being transgender is just one facet of our being. How we look, where we grew up, where we live, how we learn or think about things, and how we feel about things are all part of what makes us -- us.

That is all part of the reason we are here. Did someone or something point at us and say, "That one will be trans." No. The question implies that there is someone or something to blame. Blame implies that there is something wrong with us. Neither is true. It is just one of many things that make us who we are.

Is there a reason for it, or some special purpose? Yes. The purpose of Life is to experience Life. All of our varieties allow us to experience Life in different ways. If everyone were exactly the same, there would be no variety, and that would affect our ability to exercise our Free Will. One of the many factors that shape how we experience life is precisely how we choose to experience it.

Being trans exposes us to experiences that others will never experience. But it also opens up opportunities to choose which experiences we want to have.

Think about that for a bit.

[Dances With Trees]

Great question, CosmicJoke, and elegant response, Lori.

For a long time, I believed I was dreaming of the woman I wanted to be. Over the past few years, I have come to believe that I dream of the women I once was. Primarily because the settings of the dreams are always in a long ago past, and never in the present, never in the future.

If so, I'm glad I chose (or was compelled) to be born AMAB. Like Lori, CosmicJoke, and virtually everyone else inside SP, I have learned far more about gender than I would have otherwise. Occasionally, it's overwhelming and sometimes I wish the lessons were a bit gentler to learn.

[Stottie Girl]

I am not someone who believes in god I'm afraid. There is too much cruelty in the world. If god does exist then I'm not sure I like the guy! I certainly do not beleive in organised religion, If there is a god then he's not going to save only the Christians or only the jews and so on. *

I believe it was a process in the womb that differed from the norm. The genetic messages went to our physical body to asign gender male or female but the brain got the opposite message. I don't feel there is anything mystical going on. However my mother has always told me she was utterly convinced I was going to be a girl and even named me sarah. She believed that until I popped out! I do sometimes wonder, albeit fancifully, if that thought process could affect the fetal mind?

* There is a lot that science cannot answer so I cannot truly say one way or another that there isn't something else at work. I guess that makes me agnostic. The further you look into the cosmos or into quantum theory the less fantastical it becomes. We will all find out one day I suppose!

[Charlotte Kitty ✅]

I know for certain that I wasn't created transgender as I didn't feel this way in the early part of my life.

I had nods to femininity in my ways, things I liked and some of my reactions. But no real desire to be a woman. That all came quite a lot later, growing in my 30s I'd say.

I don't understand some of the mysteries of life however. Some very uncanny things just happen. Like these things are just meant for you. I feel there is a higher power, but maybe not as religion describes it. There is some magical order to life I'm sure.

Charlotte 😻

[Pema]

Lori's disclaimer applies to me, too. I'm not an adherent of any established philosophy. I try to listen to my heart and live my life from that place - which often runs contrary to societal norms.

I think "reason" in this context is very similar to the questions of "meaning" and "purpose" in life. Are those things dictated by some source external to us, or do we choose them ourselves? I can't say I know the answer, and yet I still have to live my life.

So I listen to my heart, because I think either way, that's where the "answer" will come to me - whether from within myself or received via universal consciousness. And here's how my mind interprets and translates what I feel:

My "mission" here on Earth in human form is to discover and express my true nature, to shed conditioned and scripted behaviors and roles and identify who and what I actually am. It's about breaking free from mimetic desire and simply being myself. If by doing that I show someone else that that option exists and they choose to do something similar, then...bonus. I know that I've already opened some people's eyes to what it means to be transgender - people who would otherwise have only had very simplistic, stereotypical views.

To be clear: Gender identity and expression are only part of this liberation. It's really about every aspect of how I see my "self" and my time here on Earth. I have never bought in or fit in in most ways, and now I wholeheartedly embrace and try to manifest my actual values instead of adopting them from a template (or pretending to).

I think your question is a great one, and I wish people would ask themselves similar questions about most of the things they do without even giving it a thought.

[NancyDrew1930]

I believe that YHWH God has not so much created us as transgender as we are at a time where our DNA has weakened to where trans people are being created more than before.

When YHWH God created Adam and Eve, He created them with "digital" DNA, for lack of a better term.  And had Adam and Eve not fallen and sinned, then Adam and Eve's children would have carried forth that "digital"DNA, and passed that incorruptible DNA onto their children and their children's children.  However, Adam and Eve sinned before they had any children that had the "digital" DNA.  And YHWH God turned Adam and Eve's DNA from "digital" to "analog" DNA that, overtime built up errors causing medical issues like the "blue blood" issue in royal families.  And because of that, we who are transgender are partly like this because of genetic errors.  A few years I was watching a video with a scientist talking from a Christian perspective, and the scientist was saying that he figured that presently we are about 170 to 180 generations away from Adam and Eve.  And we are also only 160 to 170 generations away from Noah and the genetic bottleneck that the Flood created. 

As an analogy, think of what happens to a CD that is copied to an analog cassette tape.  The first generation sounds fine, but then if you make a copy of the first analog generation (an analog copy of an analog copy) you may not notice it right away.  However if you keep making a copy of the previous copy, without going back to the CD, eventually you will notice a loss in signal quality that just keeps getting worse with each successive analog generation. 

As King David wrote, YHWH God knew us in the womb, and He was creating our personality and He already knew when we would transition and that we would be unable to maintain how we were born, because it would cause us great pain and suffering and our only way to be healed would be to become that that would be the opposite of what society would be expecting us to become.  We would be like the woman caught in adultery, who the Pharisees were saying needed to be stoned in accordance with the law that YHWH God had given Moses, but would not understand because they couldn't see the love of YHWH that we are supposed to show, but act like they are without sin ("let him who is without sin cast the first stone") and are above the law.

[Allie Jayne]

I have no spiritual leanings, so my answers rely on science, or the observations of nature. All organisms need to adapt to ever changing conditions to continue, so variations in development are a natural, and necessary part of life. Some organisms try to create an advantage by creating genetic diversity by having 2 sexes, and further, specialising the functions of carrying and nurturing offspring, and defending and providing.

To further enhance the sex roles, our brains have developed Gender Identity. This helps us to adopt behaviours related to our sex role, but occasionally, factors cause a variance in foetal brain development, causing incongruence. This has been happening throughout human history, and likely well before, right back to the earlier primates. I don't believe there is a specific reason for this, other than natural diversity, but I believe it has the social effect of encouraging acceptance of diversity. It is said that the measure of a developed society is in how it treats minority groups.

While there is no peer reviewed research to prove all this, it is based on observations of nature, and is at least as valid as any other answer to this question!

Hugs,

Allie   

[Lori Dee ✅]

While there is no peer reviewed research to prove all this, it is based on observations of nature, and is at least as valid as any other answer to this question!

I submit the following:

Gene variants provide insight into brain, body incongruence in transgender
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200205084203.htm 🔗

Genetic Link Between Gender Dysphoria and Sex Hormone Signaling
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30247609/ 🔗

Study reveals potential biological basis for transgender
https://hudson.org.au/news/written-in-dna-study-reveals-potential-biological-basis-for-transgender/ 🔗

Trans Genes?
https://cashp.columbian.gwu.edu/trans-genes 🔗

None of this is submitted as "proof" of anything. It is the direction that research is moving. Many worry that establishing proof of any biological cause could be abused through discriminatory testing and "correction".

But I don't think this is what the question is asking.
Do you think there is a reason we are created transgender? implies that it was done with some purpose in mind.

Biologically, no, I don't think there is a reason behind it, even if there might be a cause.

Spiritually, yes, as I stated upthread. The purpose of Life is to experience Life. The Creator experiences Life through us. That is why we were given physical bodies. The Bible states that when we were created, the Breath of Life was breathed into us and we became living souls. Not bodies with spirits. We are spirits with bodies, unlike angels or other spirits that lack physical form.

The Creator experiences Life differently through us than through any other living thing. Our diversity matters. It isn't a binary world, so all aspects of life experiences should reflect that. Everything is on a spectrum: light, sound, temperature, force, etc. So why not gender and its expression? Every facet of life is an opportunity to experience it to the fullest.

Not everyone is able to experience every facet. Some will never know what it is like to be blind, others what it is like to see. Some will never know what it is like to be disabled, others what it is like to be whole. That is not good or bad; it is just different points along the spectrum. For us, we get to experience the spectrum of gender when others have no clue what we are talking about.

I think that is a blessing.

[Stottie Girl]

I have no spiritual leanings, so my answers rely on science, or the observations of nature. All organisms need to adapt to ever changing conditions to continue, so variations in development are a natural, and necessary part of life. Some organisms try to create an advantage by creating genetic diversity by having 2 sexes, and further, specialising the functions of carrying and nurturing offspring, and defending and providing.

To further enhance the sex roles, our brains have developed Gender Identity. This helps us to adopt behaviours related to our sex role, but occasionally, factors cause a variance in foetal brain development, causing incongruence. This has been happening throughout human history, and likely well before, right back to the earlier primates. I don't believe there is a specific reason for this, other than natural diversity, but I believe it has the social effect of encouraging acceptance of diversity. It is said that the measure of a developed society is in how it treats minority groups.

While there is no peer reviewed research to prove all this, it is based on observations of nature, and is at least as valid as any other answer to this question!

Hugs,

Allie   

Interesting post Allie.

Regarding your theory that trans people have been around for ages. There have been quite a few discoveries of ancient Male bodies (even back to the caveman era) that were buried in the traditions reserved for females. It is likely (and generally accepted) that these males lived as females in life. Even the Romans have recorded priests who wore jewelry and identified as female. I think that it is very likely that trans people have been in existance as long as humans have walked the earth.

This all pre-dates any religious doctrine we have today and for me points to a definite biological reason behind it. The science further backs this up after studies of the female and m2f transgender brains which showed a lot of similarities in how they processed information whereas the male brains were distinctly different. Of course that could be due to nurture or experience so it's not conclusive but it is another indicator.

I don't want to put an argument against peoples beliefs here but I think there is a tangible scientific reason behind it all rather than a spiritual one.

One thing is certain for me. Being transgender is not a choice, no-one would choose to go through what we do and face all the pain, cost, persecution and ridicule we endure on our journey. In my case I knew from my earliest days, I wouldn't have been able to make such a clear choice at that time. So I do believe we are born transgender.

[KathyLauren]

Why do you think we are created transgender? Is there a reason or not?

I am a scientist by nature, and as such, I find that asking "why" is like putting legs on a snake: unnecessary and pointless.  I do not believe we were designed or created by any intelligence.  As a scientist, the question I ask is How, not Why. 

Humans are the way we are because of the forces of evolution, nothing more.  Transgender people are the way we are because of the influence of pre-natal hormones on our developing bodies.  I am transgender because my mother most likely took DES while she was pregnant with me.  None of it happened for a reason or purpose.

The beauty of it all is still beautiful in spite of all the randomness and all the accidental circumstances.  It may even be more beautiful because of the randomness.

[Charlotte Kitty ✅]

Of course though with any scientific hypothesis there are always outliers. I'm pretty sure I am one of those as many factors described by others are absent. But I do believe that external factors eg trauma messed up brain and basically distorted everything. Including gender. I'm probably more detached than altered.

Charlotte 😻

[Stottie Girl]

Of course though with any scientific hypothesis there are always outliers. I'm pretty sure I am one of those as many factors described by others are absent. But I do believe that external factors eg trauma messed up brain and basically distorted everything. Including gender. I'm probably more detached than altered.

Charlotte 😻

You're right of course, there are outliers Charlotte. I'm not saying that everyone must know from the beginning. I think it maybe just takes longer for the brain to process in some people than others. But there is a common theme that people have always felt there was something wrong even if they were unsure what it was.

[Lori Dee ✅]

You're right of course, there are outliers Charlotte. I'm not saying that everyone must know from the beginning. I think it maybe just takes longer for the brain to process in some people than others. But there is a common theme that people have always felt there was something wrong even if they were unsure what it was.

There is also a spectrum of degrees to which it is felt. Some people are strongly impacted, others do not notice, or are not bothered by it. In my case, I knew something was off, but I had no clue that it had anything to do with gender. In therapy, we began exploring that aspect, and as they say, hindsight is 20/20, and things just started making sense.