Integrated Health Care Prescribing Committee BLOCKS transgender Hormones

[Tills]

As you say, @Stottie Girl this has the hands of management all over it. The pharmacist linked to Sunny Meed surgery is the one initially blocking it, doing so because of the new policy from the area health authority.

Above and beyond them this feels like it has Wes Streeting's grubby anti-trans hands all over it.

For anyone who doesn't know who Wes Streeting is, he's the Minister for Health who used to be supportive of trans rights until Labour gained power whereupon he did a complete u-turn and began enacting a series of anti-trans policies.

Wes Streeting is in a gay relationship and once posted on twitter about the journalist Jan Moir that he "would like to push the bigoted old bag in front of a train." He repeated this several times, even saying that he would like to start a vigilante group "to push nasty people in front of trains". Also that he would "like to kick a dog in the face."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1628883/wes-streeting-abusive-tweets-labour-leadership-apologise-update 🔗

He is a self-serving career politician who is fuelling the anti-trans lobby

[Charlotte Kitty ✅]

I personally don't think we can underestimate the influence coming from the USA and Trumps government. Until this there was none of this talk. The UK is and always will be a puppet to the USA or any other in power nation.

As the UK has no real resources to support itself, let alone offer to others, I don't see this position ever changing. The UK doesn't even have intellectual resource anymore so I'm unfortunately pessimistic for the entire future. Unless someone knows something up our sleeve that almost any other nation somewhere else doesn't have more of or do better.

I'm basically rushing to self fund everything I want to do as quickly as possible. I'll worry about the tens of thousands of debt later. When I'm bankrupt I can't pay it anyway! The NHS hasn't sorted aganosing polyps I have in 12 months yet; why would it care about gender affirming care!

Charlotte 😻

[Stottie Girl]

The UK is on a downward spiral across the board but it doesn't have to be this way at all. Trans people are human beings and we have a medically diagnosable condition which has a known successful treatment path which I fear we are starting to be denied. We deserve to be afforded human decency from our elected government.

On the rest of the decline, the people at the top or waiting in the wings need to look at countries that have built themselves up from disaster and decline and start investing in UK industry. Germany and Japan did it post war and surpassed us. Korea did it, China has done it (though off the backs of low paid labour) It is about time we re-invested in our people and our companies. We can start by stopping foreign takeovers of British companies. Re-nationalising our utilities, Rail network, Post office, Royal Mail etc. Subsidising energy cost for businesses, not putting public tenders out to foreign companies. Privatisation has been a massive failure. all it did was give short term gain to the coffers which was squandered on god knows what. Look where we are now.

It's time for a revolution. I think we should start the Trans Liberation Party (TLP) and sweep to power, who's with me?

I may have gotten a teeny bit carried away there!

[Lori Dee ✅]

The biggest problem with "nationalism" is not patriotism but the impact of foreign investments. All of those countries rebuilt themselves with the help of foreign investment, not to mention the labor force that came from immigrants.

When a country starts banning and/or removing immigrants (or any class), they restrict their own labor force that does the work of rebuilding infrastructure, farming, and production in factories. It isn't just manual labor either. Engineers, doctors, and others with higher education contribute greatly to the success of any country.

@Jessica_Rose had joked that with the number of transgender people in the U.S., if we all moved to New Zealand, we would have enough votes to take over. Sadly, New Zealand has passed some not-so-friendly laws, and I have crossed it off my list. At least until we can all move there and take over.

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[Stottie Girl]

The biggest problem with "nationalism" is not patriotism but the impact of foreign investments. All of those countries rebuilt themselves with the help of foreign investment, not to mention the labor force that came from immigrants.

When a country starts banning and/or removing immigrants (or any class), they restrict their own labor force that does the work of rebuilding infrastructure, farming, and production in factories. It isn't just manual labor either. Engineers, doctors, and others with higher education contribute greatly to the success of any country.

@Jessica_Rose had joked that with the number of transgender people in the U.S., if we all moved to New Zealand, we would have enough votes to take over. Sadly, New Zealand has passed some not-so-friendly laws, and I have crossed it off my list. At least until we can all move there and take over.

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WOAH LORI! I didn't say I wanted to ban or remove immigrants, you are putting words in my mouth there. I have said nothing against immigrants at all here. Please don't let this get misconstrued like the last time.

This isn't nationalism in fact it's called socialism! I said I don't want foreign COMPANIES taking over our companies. I imagine it is different in the states but over here our businesses are often taken over by foreign hedge funds or unscrupulous owners who end up sacking loads of the workforce, lower the wages and strip the business of the assets. Sometimes they buy them then move the whole brand and business abroad. Everytime a promising business gets started they get taken over. It has happened time and time again.

Loads of these foreign owners avoid paying tax in our country. Prime examples are Google, Amazon and the like. We have lost our steel industry to foreign companies who have ran the industry into the ground to the point where we had only one furnace left in the entire country that could make quality steel. The government had to step in to nationalise it to save the plant but it's only a matter of time before they sell it off again.

There are a few UK organisations doing this too don't get me wrong but the FTSE100 index companies are now nearly 60% foreign owned. I blame the british owners who sell them as much as the foreign investment funds. Hell we don't even own our water it's 70 % owned by foreign companies who fail to invest in the infrastructure whilst hiking water rates and creaming off the proffit.

This is the rotten part of capitalism/globalisation. We are headed in only one direction if we constantly sell everything off to make a quick buck. Capitalism is still the best system, I'm not wanting to endorse communism here by the way!

We used to have proud British businesses, made in britain used to mean something.

I've gone off on a total tangent here. Sorry Tills but I'm worried I get picked up for using far right terminology again here.

I knew I shouldn't have started talking politics again. I won't get involved in any more political stuff, I'll keep my opinions to myself in future.

[Sephirah]

As someone who comes from Sheffield, in the north of England, I can attest to the downfall of the steel industry. It really has nothing to do with immigration, at all. When the Tory government were in power, there were mutterings about selling off pieces of the NHS. Even Donald Trump showed an interest. But as a body, it is heavily reliant on immigration and medical staff from overseas.

That's kind of apples and oranges. I kind of agree with Sarah here.

[Stottie Girl]

As someone who comes from Sheffield, in the north of England, I can attest to the downfall of the steel industry. It really has nothing to do with immigration, at all. When the Tory government were in power, there were mutterings about selling off pieces of the NHS. Even Donald Trump showed an interest. But as a body, it is heavily reliant on immigration and medical staff from overseas.

That's kind of apples and oranges. I kind of agree with Sarah here.

Thanks Lauren. I'll stop getting all political now! ooh kittens

[Pema]

I think there may have been confusion there between

nationalize: to invest control or ownership of in the national government

and

nationalism: an ideology that elevates one nation or nationality above all others and that places primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations, nationalities, or supranational groups.

[Lori Dee ✅]

@Stottie Girl

I was not accusing you of anything. I apologize if it came across that way.

We have the same problem here with foreign corporations buying out smaller companies. At the beginning of COVID, it was revealed that Chinese-owned companies were buying entire supply chains. For example, cattle and ranchland, feedlots, meatpacking plants, and distribution channels (Tyson, Jack's Links, etc.). That provided many jobs and tax revenue for states. The downside is that they could charge whatever prices they want because they control their own profits for the entire product. And that is just one example.

I agree with you that the ideal situation would be for locals to own and operate the businesses. But that is not feasible in many situations. In any given city, there are only so many people who want to own and operate a widget factory, even if the demand is high. The solution to meet the demand is for foreign investors to build, own, and operate the business.

Can it be abused? Absolutely. And that needs to be regulated. But even locally-owned monopolies can be abused, too.

Again, I apologize if it seemed like I was accusing you. I was not. I was only pointing out that post-war development was not done only by locals. It was done with foreign investment.

[Stottie Girl]

No it's me over-reacting again Lori. I've picked you up wrong. Sorry, I'm just paranoid of saying the wrong thing again. I can't help myself! I'd best stay clear of politics. It's just the treatment of Tills by our healthcare system got me so riled up.

[Tills]

A bit of an update which may relate to this issue I have faced in Surrey:

https://www.susans.org/index.php?topic=250751.new#new

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[Tills]

I'm just penning my letter to my MP and I will also write again to the area Health Authority

That this is a trans-attack is evident to me from 2 things.

1st, as you may know, I take a micro dose of Testogel. They have left this unaffected and on repeat prescription. The fact that Testogel is a far more potent and dangerous drug is part of the irony, but it demonstrates that they are treating me as inherently male.

2nd which is emphasised by the fact that the cis lady with whom I currently lodge, same address, has just switched from pills to patches HRT. Not one block or issue at all. No traffic light system.

It's a deliberate anti-trans policy.

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[Tills]

p.s. Health Secretary Wes Streeting's tweet saying he wanted to kick a dog in the face:

https://x.com/Morrigan_Wolfe/status/1305237628002983943 🔗

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[Tills]

Lovely people aren't they?

[Charlotte Kitty ✅]

It's hard not to get emotional and passionate seeing how our fellow friends are being treated by this country. And ourselves too. I don't think being on a 6+ year wait list to see a gender specialist is great when the limit set by the NHS is 18 weeks. It's only because of DIY and me being in a professional job I can get the care I need. Still painful paying over £15k a year in income tax alone and getting no NHS support for me or my beautiful peers.

It's hard in the UK to not wonder each day why you bother. I'd write to my MP but she is now independent and pushing Advance UK. I think my words would be wasted!

I hope better for us all but can't help think we're on our own now and care quality is down to how deep our pockets are.

Charlotte 😻

[Stottie Girl]

Charlotte, Your words are never wasted. They may fall on deaf ears but others will hear them.

The state has shat on me at every stage of my life while I dutifully paid all my taxes like a good little citizen. The state has not given me anything in all my 50 years. Whenever I needed help there was always an official pen pusher there to say "oh yes, but that's not for you"! Such is life I'm afraid.

Tills, the words I would use to descibe them I dare not use on here for fear of being banned!

[Tills]

So here's what I've written back to the Chief Executive who had written to tell me that this was all for my care and safety:

Karen McDowell
Chief Executive
Surrey Heartlands
Dukes Court
Woking GU21 5BH

Ref Tilly [Name Redacted]


Dear Ms McDowell,

Thank you for your letter.

You claim that you have enacted this traffic light block on my hormone treatment out of patient safety. This is gaslighting.

I am a post-operative female, with no naturally occurring hormones, and for the past 6 weeks have been left without hormone treatment which is extremely dangerous for physical, emotional, and mental health. There is nothing about patient safety in these actions: it is an act of gross negligence.

My national Centre for Transgender Health in Nottingham, under whose safe expertise and auspices I have been for 12 years, are tearing their hair out over what everyone else considers your stubborn ignorance. Until now it has been the accepted and sensible practice of GP surgeries throughout England & Wales to liaise with the national Centres for Transgender Care, feeding back blood results and adjusting medications accordingly.

That this is a deliberate anti-trans policy is evidenced from two things.

1.   I take a micro dose of Testogel. This is a far more potent and dangerous drug than estrogen and yet you have left this unblocked and available for me to order on repeat prescription. In other words, you are consciously treating me as if I were a male, which is outrageous.

2.   My natal cis female friend [Name redacted], living at the same address, has just switched her HRT from pills to patches without any issue or block at all. Ergo, once again, demonstrating your anti-trans attack on me.

As it happens, I was born with a chromosome mutation which made me naturally intersex. That I should be outed to have to write such personal details to you and others is appalling, especially considering that I have a Gender Recognition Certitifate.

I have written to my Member of Parliament and I will not stop until this anti-trans ban on my treatment plan is lifted. I will not hesitate if necessary to take legal action against Surrey Heartlands, the GP Surgery and their Pharmacists. The last time I took an organisation to the High Court I won a six-figure sum so I'd advise you to think very carefully.

And please don't ever gaslight me again.

Yours sincerely,


Dr Tilly [Name Redacted]

c.c.
•   Will Forster MP
•   Richard Morgan-Jones, Sunny Meed Practice Manager
•   Clinical Pharmacists, Sunny Meed Surgery
•   Surrey Area Prescribing Committee
•   Surrey Integrated Care Board (ICB)

[Tills]

And here's what I've written and hand delivered this morning to my Member of Parliament, who is a Liberal Democrat:

15th March 2025

Will Forster MP
One Crown Square
Church Street East
Woking
GU21 6HR


Dear Mr Forster,

I am one of your constituents and I wish to complain about Surrey Heartlands and Surrey Area Prescribing Committee's newly enacted Anti-transgender medication block.

The Area recently brought in a traffic light system on certain medications which is a deliberate attempt to stop transgender treatment.

They are dressing this up as 'protecting patient safety' but this is gaslighting. I have been under the auspices of the national Centre for Transgender Care at Nottingham for 12 years and have never encountered any GP Surgery or Area Health Authority refusing to enact their medication recommendation. They have also blocked blood testing which is dangerous.

As a post-operative transgender female (I was actually born intersex) this is an act of gross negligence by Surrey. I have no naturally occurring hormones so they are exposing me to grave physical, emotional, and mental danger. I also have a Gender Recognition Certificate and I think it's equally disgraceful that I am being forcibly outed by this policy.

I would like you to raise this in Parliament please if possible and also to tackle the Health Authority. I would be happy to meet with you to discuss it further.

Please see the attached letter. As you may tell, I am angry but also hurt.

With kind regards,


Tilly [Name Redacted]

[Tills]

p.s. it's entirely true that I took an organisation to the High Court and won a six-figure sum. It was a battle but I won it. They settled on the steps of the Royal Courts of Justice.

If I sue these state-sponsored thugs it will not be for the money, but for all of our futures.

xx

[Tills]

TRIGGER WARNING: REFERENCE TO CHILD ABUSE

I might have given the wrong impression with that message ^^^ about legal action.

I think I should explain. I actually took my old school to court because it facilitated child abuse. This was documented and evidenced and several teachers were found guilty and one was sentenced to 10 yrs in prison. Their lawyers settled with me just as we were about to go into the court room and I got the school shut down.

So, again, it was about the principles not the money. I don't like injustices.

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