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Stottie Girl

It has been brought to my attention that part of a comment I posted could have been construed as having far right meaning. This post has been removed by admin. I am horrified that this could have been taken in this way as it is so far from the truth. I have been and always will be a left leaning socialist and I am devasted if anyone formed that opinion of me. I have cried myself to sleep and I have woken up crying.

I have deleted as many of my posts as I could find where I might have said something that could have caused offence but I do not seem able to articulate my thoughts properly so if I have missed something please know I have never intended to cause offense.

In the real world I only have 1 friend (and we became friends on the first day of school) but I only get to see her in person maybe once a month or longer. I have been alone nearly all my life and clearly lack social skills because of this, I always seem to say the wrong thing or people just plain don't like me.

I have dropped my guard for the first time in my life in this place and have tried to let the real me take over and shine, even showing an image of the real me for the first time. For the first time in my life I have felt like I was part of a community and if I have said anything that jepardized that then I am trully sorry.

Maybe I'm destined to be alone all my life, it might be easier.

Sorry for the melancholy post I'm just so flat today.
A wise man once said don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, that way when you judge him you're a mile away and you have his shoes!

Jen T.

I don't have any words of wisdom to offer, so I'll just throw this out there:

🤗HUGS🤗
You're never alone here.

Also let me say that I, for one, am very hard to offend.😁

Peace, love and happiness,
Jen

Charlotte Kitty

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Hi Sarah,
Honestly you articulate your thoughts beautifully and come across as a very kind person. I don't for one minute think you're right wing. It's extremely difficult in the modern climate to articulate thoughts surrounding politics without stepping into potentially difficult territory. Not to mention we are surrounded by constant rhetoric which can easily lodge in mine or your subconscious. I have made similar mishaps many times, so please don't beat yourself up. But it's growth too.

We are here together to share our experiences and grow from each others experiences. You and I both grow immeasurably each day on here. But also you have helped me grow. Helped me be a better person. This speaks of your kindness and heart above anything else. You are loved and appreciated.

If you ever fancy it I'd love to come back to the North East again and could say hi in real. I'm like you don't have friends, still working out why not!

You are so brave too sharing your apology. Your soul is seen by us all.

Love Charlotte 😻

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KathyLauren

Clearly I didn't see the post in question, or, if I did, I didn't take it that way.  You come across as a lovely person.

I understand the loneliness that you describe.  I have no friends other than my wife, and only a few good acquaintances.  I never understood why, until my wife told me that she thought I was on the autism spectrum.  I have never been professionally assessed for that, but I think she is probably right.  It seems to be common in our demographic.  My own guess is that being trans can make one autistic, rather than the other way around.

You are among friends here.  We all word things in a less-than-skillful manner from time to time.  Don't worry about it.
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Pema

Sarah, like the others, I've apparently missed your offensive posts, too. Either that or, well, I'm extremely difficult to offend - which is very true.

Here's the thing: If you're going to be authentic in the world, then that almost certainly means that sometimes you'll say or do something unpolished and someone will take it in a way that you didn't intend. That's one of the costs of being yourself. People who know and love you (and who are comfortable being who they are) won't be upset by it. They may just ask you to clarify what you meant. We are those people, and we're here for you and with you.

Like Kathy, my wife assures me I'm "on the spectrum." I consider that a badge of honor. I'm a plant person, not a people person. I'm bound to rub someone the wrong way at some point, and I accept that. A good friend of mine once told me that if at least 2% of people don't dislike you, then you're doing something wrong.

I hope you can let it go. I feel like you've become a key member of this community, and I really dislike the thought that you might now censor yourself for fear of saying something that might offend someone. That simply isn't who you are.

And I wish I'd told you these things sooner.

Love,
Pema
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Sarah! 👋👩💕

Worry not little sister!!!... You are So Loved Here and... You are Highly Valued part of this Wonderful Family... Keep being you girl!...  All Is and...Shall Always Be... Well 💕🤗💕

Huge Hugs and Lotsa Love Always!

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Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

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Lori Dee

Hi Sarah,

There are some things you need to understand. As stated above, when being yourself, no one expects your language to be perfect, and no one here is judging you.

From time to time, posts are moderated because this is an all-ages public forum that is indexed by search engines. Anyone with internet access can read what is posted here, so we make sure the image we portray is consistent.

This is absolutely not a reflection on you; it is just housekeeping. You were notified that the post was edited and why. It is not a strike against you.

I have had my posts moderated plenty of times, from slight edits to complete deletions. I just try to be careful about how I say things, and I still don't always get it right.

Sarah, you are loved, and you belong here. Your contributions are very much appreciated. Please do not be upset about this. Don't take it personally. No one here thinks less of you. We were making sure the outside world does not get the wrong impression or find something to use against us. It is just housekeeping.

I hope you can understand that.

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Dances With Trees

Dear Sarah,

Like Lori and so many others mentioned, several of my posts have also been deleted or 'housekept'. And, like you, I was at times mortified knowing my words were taken the wrong way or offended someone.

I enjoy reading your posts and love your photography!

Massive hugs,
Anni 

Stottie Girl

ooh I feel a bit sheepish now. I think I might have had a major over reaction. It was just the thought of people thinking I shared a world view with those vile people on the far right really got to me. I'm always terrified of saying the wrong thing as I have lost the few friends and aquaintences I had and never understood why I was suddenly blanked or why people stopped answering my calls. I can only assume I said something I shouldn't have.

My emotions have been all over the place yesterday and today. I think the house move is taking it's toll, I haven't moved for 25 years. I had also just had a row with my neighbour as I came home to find scaffolding erected across the front of my house.

I'm normally not someone who flips out like that. The whole thing took me by suprise, I'm not sure I have fully adjusted to the female emotive brain yet. I have also recently recovered from depression and I think that might have had something to do with it also.

I really appreciate all your kind words, it was most unexpected considering I'm still a newbie.

Time to stop feeling sorry for myself and grow a pair lol
A wise man once said don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, that way when you judge him you're a mile away and you have his shoes!

Stottie Girl

Quote from: KathyLauren on Today at 06:42:54 AMClearly I didn't see the post in question, or, if I did, I didn't take it that way.  You come across as a lovely person.

I understand the loneliness that you describe.  I have no friends other than my wife, and only a few good acquaintances.  I never understood why, until my wife told me that she thought I was on the autism spectrum.  I have never been professionally assessed for that, but I think she is probably right.  It seems to be common in our demographic.  My own guess is that being trans can make one autistic, rather than the other way around.

You are among friends here.  We all word things in a less-than-skillful manner from time to time.  Don't worry about it.
Funnily enough, when I was being treated for panic attacks and depression my therapist said I was likely somewhere on the autism spectrum. I looked into it but it looked like an uphill battle and it wouldn't have really acheived anything so I didn't bother. I do have misophonia though which is a seriously bad sensitivity to certain noises.
A wise man once said don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, that way when you judge him you're a mile away and you have his shoes!

Stottie Girl

Quote from: Charlotte Kitty on Today at 01:46:00 AMHi Sarah,
Honestly you articulate your thoughts beautifully and come across as a very kind person. I don't for one minute think you're right wing. It's extremely difficult in the modern climate to articulate thoughts surrounding politics without stepping into potentially difficult territory. Not to mention we are surrounded by constant rhetoric which can easily lodge in mine or your subconscious. I have made similar mishaps many times, so please don't beat yourself up. But it's growth too.

We are here together to share our experiences and grow from each others experiences. You and I both grow immeasurably each day on here. But also you have helped me grow. Helped me be a better person. This speaks of your kindness and heart above anything else. You are loved and appreciated.

If you ever fancy it I'd love to come back to the North East again and could say hi in real. I'm like you don't have friends, still working out why not!

You are so brave too sharing your apology. Your soul is seen by us all.

Love Charlotte 😻


Thanks Charlotte, I'm feeling a bit more myself now. Never mind me, you should be gearing up for the big trip tomorrow!
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Susan

Hi Sarah,

First — breathe. You're okay, and you're not in trouble.

What happened here is something that happens on forums all the time, and it's worth taking a moment to explain how it works, so everyone can benefit from understanding the process.

Our moderators review posts not to judge the person, but to make sure the language on the forum can't be misread or taken out of context. This is a public forum indexed by search engines — anyone in the world can read what's written here. When a post is edited, it's housekeeping. It's not a punishment, it's not a strike against you, and it doesn't mean anyone thinks badly of you.

In your case, the phrasing you used — not your intent — echoed language that has been co-opted by far-right groups as a dog whistle. You didn't know that, and nobody thinks you're far-right. The edit was made to protect you as much as the forum, so that your words couldn't be taken out of context by someone outside this community.

A few things I want everyone to take away from this:

Political discussion is welcome here when it comes from a respectful, non-heated place. We are not a politics-free zone. However, if someone advocates for policies that are actively being used to target the trans and LGBTQ+ community, that will be treated as a Terms of Service violation. And no one should be upset when another member points out how specific politicians or parties are negatively impacting our community. For us, that's not abstract political debate — it's about our lives and our safety.

When a moderator reaches out to you about a post, it's a conversation, not a conviction. Our staff are here to keep this space safe for everyone. The best response is to take it in stride, understand why, and move on. There's no need to panic, delete your posts, or feel like you've been cast out.

On that note — please don't delete your own posts when they've been part of an active conversation. When you remove your side of a discussion, it leaves everyone else's replies hanging without context. Those conversations belong to the whole community, not just one participant. If you have concerns about something you've posted, reach out to a moderator and we can work it out together.

If a post needs editing or removal, the staff will let you know what was changed and why. Sometimes they'll offer alternative ways of saying what you meant that follow the spirit of this community. Work with them — they're on your side. Remember, we are transgender people first and foremost. Everything we do here is in service of protecting this community and the people in it.

Sarah, you've become a valued part of this community in a short time. The fact that people came out in force to support you in this thread should tell you everything you need to know about how you're seen here. Don't censor yourself. Don't shrink back. Just keep being you — and if a mod taps you on the shoulder, know that it comes from a place of care, not criticism.

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Sephirah

Quote from: Susan on Today at 01:52:16 PMWhen a moderator reaches out to you about a post, it's a conversation, not a conviction.

Just to expand a little on what Susan said. As someone who did that job for many years, and considers many of the staff as close friends... I would say don't be scared of them, sweetie, or actions they take to maintain the site policies. They aren't prison guards and try their utmost to keep the site running with as much interaction and transparency as humanly possible. You'd be surprised how many places don't have that, and authoritarianism is the name of the game.

It's never, ever personal, or a reflection on you as a person. And honestly... action is often taken only as an absolute last resort. It can be easy, especially online, to phrase something a certain way, or say something in the heat of the moment. Probably everyone on the site has done it one time or another. Usually without thinking about it. To keep things uniform, and safe for everyone coming here, that's why the policies are what they are.

Please don't stop letting your guard down, Sarah. I hope you can keep seeing the site as a place where you can be yourself. It's nice to have some Northern solidarity. ;D And girl, you're one of the bubbliest, friendliest people I've ever met. If the mods have an issue, just talk it out with them. It's never about you as a person. And they are a really decent bunch of folks.

*hugs* 
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Stottie Girl

Quote from: Sephirah on Today at 02:29:05 PMJust to expand a little on what Susan said. As someone who did that job for many years, and considers many of the staff as close friends... I would say don't be scared of them, sweetie, or actions they take to maintain the site policies. They aren't prison guards and try their utmost to keep the site running with as much interaction and transparency as humanly possible. You'd be surprised how many places don't have that, and authoritarianism is the name of the game.

It's never, ever personal, or a reflection on you as a person. And honestly... action is often taken only as an absolute last resort. It can be easy, especially online, to phrase something a certain way, or say something in the heat of the moment. Probably everyone on the site has done it one time or another. Usually without thinking about it. To keep things uniform, and safe for everyone coming here, that's why the policies are what they are.

Please don't stop letting your guard down, Sarah. I hope you can keep seeing the site as a place where you can be yourself. It's nice to have some Northern solidarity. ;D And girl, you're one of the bubbliest, friendliest people I've ever met. If the mods have an issue, just talk it out with them. It's never about you as a person. And they are a really decent bunch of folks.

*hugs* 
Thanks Lauren and Susan. I'm not upset at the staff at all nor do I feel victimized. I am upset because I wrote a comment that clearly had a far different meaning than I intended but I couldn't see it. This is what I mean when I say I think I keep saying the wrong things. Those words were from an older post which meant they were visible to all for some time and I was upset that other people might have looked at it and got the same impression.

I will never be certain which way people took it and that put me in a panic and I thought of all the other times I had been outspoken and was scared they might be taken the wrong way too so I removed them.

I haven't lost it like that since I had a breakdown at work 3 years ago. It's not a regular thing for me and I'm not really equipped to deal with it. I think I have really over-reacted and I'm a bit embarrassed now.
A wise man once said don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, that way when you judge him you're a mile away and you have his shoes!
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Sephirah

Don't be, Sarah. I'll let you in on something...

When I first joined, way back in 2008... a couple of weeks after, I found myself banned from the site. I hit the deep end hard. Freaked out like someone who just went to sleep on a nest of spiders. I thought I'd done, or said something so horrifically bad that the place I called home had decided I wasn't good enough.

Turns out it wasn't that at all. I contacted Susan and she told me that it was an IP issue, and I was back on the site within a few hours. But for those few hours... Sarah I know how you felt. I thought I should just go hide in a hole.

In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter if it's the wrong thing, Sarah. That's why the mods have a job. If no one ever did anything, there'd be no need for them. What matters is how you are as a person. We are flawed, and flawless at the same time. You are who you are. And that's who people fall in love with.

We all say the wrong things, sometimes. It's part of being human. It's part of being passionate. If everyone moderated themselves with everything they wrote... which... I did for like 10 years, when I was a mod, because I felt that anything I said was a reflection on the site. That's why I only have 6k posts in almost 18 years where other people around much less than I have 2-3x that amount... sweetie, no one would ever say anything if they thought like me.

You've found a home, Sarah. And I know that's important for you, sweetie. People who you like, and who like you. That's a hard thing for many trans people to find. Somewhere you can feel at ease. You feel scared about messing it up.

Sweetie, don't be. Keep being you, okay? As effervescent and bubbly as you always are. If something you say isn't in line with site policy, roll with it. If the staff amends something... it's not your fault or because you're a bad person. What matters is that you have something to say. And trust me, you are loved and valued here. The worst thing people can do is not say anything because they're scared of saying the wrong thing.

*monster hugs* Sarah, you have more friends than you think. <3

Natura nihil frustra facit.
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