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Petunia

Well, last night I probably destroyed my 34 year marriage.

We are on a short trip to big close city and when my wife went to bed I did my lipstick and  before  I blotted and covered she saw me.

I have been trying to make my mouth less misserable but the only person I have ever loved saw it differently.

I am so sorry L I love so much.   There is only one person for me and I'm sorry for you, you got me

 You deserve someone better than me.

Lori Dee

Quote from: Petunia on April 29, 2026, 05:50:25 AMYou deserve someone better than me.

Wearing lipstick does not make you 'inferior' or somehow less deserving. You didn't harm anyone. If she loved you as much as you love her, she would want to understand what is going on with you. She may just be reacting to a shock and needs time to process. The door isn't closed. There is always time for adjustment, acceptance, and even support. Never feel like you have wronged her by being yourself.

Relationships are based on trust and honesty. I think the two of you need to talk it out. If needed, have a therapist or counselor help with the discussions. Don't give up yet. There is always hope.
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Stottie Girl

Obviously we weren't there Petunia but I agree with Lori, the act of wearing some lipstick isn't grounds for a divorce surely?

I think you guys just need to take a breath and talk it through calmly. That might not be possible right now but it will be if she truly loves you which she must do given 34 years of marriage.

I'm sure it is embarrasing and her initial reaction isn't great but give her time to cool down. You have to remember this likely comes as a huge shock to partners and it can be difficult to process.

Hang in there.

Sarah xx
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KristaFairchild

Same here with speed humps, though it needs a hiking and climbing metaphor. We've had experiences few people have had and moments I'll never forget. Although the future is limited in those areas for me, I'm seeing as an opportunity to have different never-forget experiences. 

And they could be hard core! 🤣❤️

Petunia

My wife has elaborated a bit.
What she saw was me in dark lipstick seemingly talking to someone on my phone minutes after she went to bed.

I was in fact wearing neutral lipstick like I have been wearing for 3 days but the light was dim.  I had only just put it on so it was a bit thick. I was posting here at the time so it looked quite different to her.

Hopefully this will calm down.
The other thing was I've spent the last 3 days in mostly womens clothes while we sightsee. Just leggings and womens tees but I have noticed a few women staring a bit too long at me. I don't care much but my wife isn't 100% happy about my clothing, hair and probably my tinted sunscreen and my lips


ChrissyRyan

Quote from: Petunia on April 29, 2026, 11:18:02 PMMy wife has elaborated a bit.
What she saw was me in dark lipstick seemingly talking to someone on my phone minutes after she went to bed.

I was in fact wearing neutral lipstick like I have been wearing for 3 days but the light was dim.  I had only just put it on so it was a bit thick. I was posting here at the time so it looked quite different to her.

Hopefully this will calm down.
The other thing was I've spent the last 3 days in mostly womens clothes while we sightsee. Just leggings and womens tees but I have noticed a few women staring a bit too long at me. I don't care much but my wife isn't 100% happy about my clothing, hair and probably my tinted sunscreen and my lips





I hope this all works out well for both of you.


Chrissy
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I get it. My wife doesn't trust me, and for good reasons but mostly in the distant past. The short version of the story is accepting that I'm trans is healing me. 

My wife is accepting of all people and a huge supporter of LGBTQ rights. It's a little different with me as a spouse. 

I've gone slowly so she has watch Krista gradually emerge. Glacially slow progression for four years. She got used to my nonbinary look. I think it's helped her adapt and see that I'm still me. I haven't worn male clothes in about two years. Makeup became daily about 8 months ago. My next steps are things I long for, a wig, breast forms, and a skirt or dress. She has seen me like this but I want it more often. 

I'm not sure where she stands on this. She is not the best at communicating about such things. It's scary for us both, but I can't imprison myself - it's just started to feel like that - much longer. Tomorrow is my Genderquest meeting and I'm deciding on the right skirt and top. I have yet to wear such outfits at home. 

I hope your wife adjusts to you being you. You're the same person, at least that's how I see and experience myself. Very little about what makes me...me... has changed. 

Petunia

Thank you Chrissy and Krista.

I know I'm moving to fast for my wife.  I can do what I want at home but no going out.

It's kind a bit late for the out because I've been blending for a while.

I'm slowly replacing guy stuff for girls but it is kind of the same style, just girl cuts, colours and fabric.

I am so much more calm dressing this way. I feel kind of more at peace with myself.

The problem is I just want more.  It's only clothes, makeup, jewelry and presentation but I feel more comforatable.  I don't look like anything other than an old guy pretending.

Years ago my wife thought I was cheating and sometimes she suspects the same now.

My p seems to be shrinking all the time (not on hrt) so I can't satisfy a woman. I am so not into guys. I don't really have any close male friends and I yet to meet an atrractive guy.

I have never come close to cheating but I do admire an intelligent woman or a woman who knows how to dress.

My wifes hairdresser is coming around on Tuesday to do her hair and my wife asked if I want my hair tidied.

This will be the 2nd time I said no.  My hair is thin, miscoloured but I really think I'd cry and go into a depression if I had to cut it.

I don't know what will happen when the time comes for a tidy.


KristaFairchild

#48
"The problem is I just want more.  It's only clothes, makeup, jewelry and presentation but I feel more comforatable.  I don't look like anything other than an old guy pretending."

Oh yes, THIS! The story I told myself for months, maybe years. "I'm an old guy in a dress". I still start to say it sometimes.

Let me smile sweetly and say "->-bleeped-<- that."

I'm not of course belittling your experience or fears because they are mine, too. My face won't ever pass. It's disheartening to have someone glance at me and call me ma'am, then correct themself when they see my face.

But not today or yesterday. Three times I was referred to as a woman by strangers. I have no illusions that I pass, but I offer enough female signals  to get the response I want.

We aren't pretending when we wear our feminine things. We are pretending when we aren't.

My comfort and joy in female presentation accelerated. Picture that curving graph. Each step made me need the next one. Soon. I'm right in the edge of public breast forms, wig, and dresses. I can't hold it back despite my fears and self-judgement.

I joined trans support groups, online and in person. Got a therapist who said I didn't need her. Fair. Used AI for outfit advice and hundreds of hours of discussions. Coming here was a way to engage more people instead of a program.

My wife struggles too but she tries. I'm the opposite, of you. At home I'm in all female garb but when I go to work, I added more feminine touches, like lipstick. Going to Genderquest means taking the wig and forms and even the dress in the car. I'm slowly showing more at home to my wife and college-age kids.

It's not easy. But it's necessary. And like you, I want more.

Petunia

So panic day is here.

My wife and I are visiting the hairdresser and my wife wants me to cut my hair.

My hairdresser is suggesting just evening it up, which might be ok because it's a bit shorter at the sides.

I don't really know what to say because I don't want anything masc done to it.
The rear is just touching my shoulders and flicking out.

It's only since it has gotten longer that I can look in the mirror.

I had my brows done recently by another hairdresser who is trans friendly and she seemed excited to give me a new hairstyle to suit.

I'm not sure what to do.
I've probably got an hour to decide.


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It's okay to say you don't want it cut at this time!... Sending good thoughts! 👋👩💕🌻
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Let go of the things that no longer serve you... Let go of the pretense of the false persona, it is not you... Let go of the armor that you have worn for a lifetime, to serve the expectations of others and, to protect the woman inside... She needs protection no longer.... She is tired of hiding and more courageous than you know... Let her prove that to you....Let her step out of the dark and feel the light upon her face.... amg🌸

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ChrissyRyan

I hope your decision worked out well Petunia.

Chrissy
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Petunia

Well it worked out ok.
My wife hates my hair at the moment.

I told our hairdresser I wanted it to keep growing and she said it looked ok and suggested it would be better if the sides were longer.

She suggested evening up the back next time we're due, which will likely be two months.

Yay!  Thanks for the support. I think I'd be really unhappy if I was pressured to cut it before I get to see how it can look

KristaFairchild

Quote from: Petunia on May 04, 2026, 06:49:37 PMSo panic day is here.

My wife and I are visiting the hairdresser and my wife wants me to cut my hair.

My hairdresser is suggesting just evening it up, which might be ok because it's a bit shorter at the sides.

I don't really know what to say because I don't want anything masc done to it.
The rear is just touching my shoulders and flicking out.

It's only since it has gotten longer that I can look in the mirror.

I had my brows done recently by another hairdresser who is trans friendly and she seemed excited to give me a new hairstyle to suit.

I'm not sure what to do.
I've probably got an hour to decide.


I hope things worked out ok! 
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Petunia

Yes Krista, I didn't have to cut it because out hsirdresser sided with me which probably give me 6 to 8 weeks more growth.

I really want to put it in a ponytail, even though it's thin and then think about styling.

Susan

Petunia,

I'm catching up on the site after some weeks away, and your thread is one I wanted to read all the way through before saying anything. I'm glad I did.

First, congratulations on the hair. The hairdresser siding with you was exactly the right call, and you just bought yourself six to eight weeks of growth without a confrontation. That's a real win, and it sounds like you knew it the moment it happened.

Reading through everything from April 14 to today, what strikes me most is how much good advice you've already gotten and how well you've been received here. Danielle has been her usual encouraging self. Krista's incremental progression — panties to studs to clear polish to shaved legs to foundation, each step terrifying and then becoming the new baseline — is one of the most useful things anyone could have given you, because it's the actual shape of how this happens for a lot of us. Charlotte's medical-grade antiperspirant tip is the kind of practical wisdom you only get from someone who's lived it. Lori Dee's response to your "you deserve someone better than me" moment was exactly right — wearing lipstick doesn't make you inferior, and your wife's reaction was a shock response, not a verdict. Stottie has been steady and warm throughout, including the British "sorry for everything" exchange that made me smile. Krista's later post about "we aren't pretending when we wear our feminine things, we are pretending when we aren't" is the line I wish I'd had thirty years ago.

You're in good hands here. I want you to know that.

What I'll add, because I haven't seen it said yet in this thread:

On your wife — I don't know her, and a 34-year marriage holds far more than any of us can see from the outside. What I'll say is that her listing assets and threatening divorce over a blouse, and the lipstick incident at the hotel, sound less like verdicts and more like fear talking loud. Fear often doesn't mean what it's saying. The fact that she also bought your blouse, didn't comment on the leggings on your walk, asked about your hair before going to the hairdresser, and is meeting you partway in dozens of small ways tells me there's a part of her trying. Both things are true at once. They usually are. The hardest thing for spouses in her position isn't the clothing — it's the fear that the person they married is becoming someone they don't recognize. That fear deserves compassion. It also isn't a reason for you to disappear back into a version of yourself that was making you ill.

When the time is right, a couples therapist who has real experience with trans and CD spouses can be enormously valuable — not to convince your wife of anything, but to give her a place to put her fear that isn't onto you. A lot of marriages on this path struggle because the spouse has nowhere else to put what they're feeling.

The other thing I'll gently raise — your psychologist's suggestion that the head injury caused your feminine feelings to return. The injury part is plausible as a mechanism. But I'd offer a small reframe: the head injury didn't put feminine feelings *into* you. It dismantled what was holding them down. The difference matters, because the framing "this came from the accident" can lead both you and your wife to hope it'll go away if you try hard enough. From everything you've written — the lifelong undercurrent, the way it surfaced before in your life, the peace you feel when you let it out — this isn't post-accident in origin. The accident just took the lid off.

You're moving at the right pace. The pace that's right is the one where you don't lose yourself and you don't lose the people you love any faster than you have to. Sometimes that pace still costs you things, and that's the part none of us can solve for you. But you're not doing it wrong. You're doing it the way it has to be done by the person actually living the life.

Keep posting. The thread becoming a blog isn't a problem — that's exactly what this place is for, and you've gathered the right people around you.

With much love and support!
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Quote from: Petunia on May 04, 2026, 08:44:34 PMWell it worked out ok.
My wife hates my hair at the moment.

I told our hairdresser I wanted it to keep growing and she said it looked ok and suggested it would be better if the sides were longer.

She suggested evening up the back next time we're due, which will likely be two months.

Yay!  Thanks for the support. I think I'd be really unhappy if I was pressured to cut it before I get to see how it can look

I'm so glad to hear that you managed to keep most of your hair as you wanted. That little trim is ok and will keep it healthy. Here is to hoping you can keep growing it and styling as you would wish.

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Petunia

Susan, thankyou for you post.
It contains so much truth and wisdom.

After the counting of assests thing we both agree our marriage is the most important thing fot each of us, so that has to be the grounding point.

Also, regarding the head injury or even just the reaction to 3 years of stress, we had a why now conversation a few months back and I said to my wife that it never goes away.

I told her I've been researching and others have said it never goes away.

Her demand is that I never embarrass her and I also don't want to embarrass either of us. In that she says no crossdressing outside the home.

Yet, I am kind of doing that anyway. It's not overtly happening (in my view) but at the same time while a cis guy might do/wear/present one or two things I am pushing the envelope as far as I can without wearing skirts, dresses or undoubtedly feminine only clothes outside.

I suppose not many cis men wear tinted sunscreen, discreet lipstick, pluck their brows and tint their lashes.

My wife has dyed my hair twice (had to be done as it is growing out in many colours) and we have been going shopping together a lot more, something we haven't done since before I buried myself due to how I looked.

Obviously this does show a level of acceptance and she has asked my to take off my nail polish and remove my earrings (well, I still wore studs) when we went out for dinner with friends, so it's a bit give and take (I did still wear womens jeans... not going back on that now)

So for now I can sit at this level of presentation.

I'll keep up with beard removal and growing my hair out, try and lose so weight to try and balance my top heaviness and hope my wife becomes accustomed to where I am.

I know I'm riding a wave of euphoria and I really don't want to crash back to depression.  It's been 20 years since I started washing in the dark and shaving by feel.


Lori Dee

Hi Petunia,

I am not married or in a relationship, so I have no personal experience in this department. But something I have noticed from posts by Significant Others is similar to what you describe as your wife's behavior: specifically, it's ok at home, but not going out with friends and family.

The embarrassment you mentioned stems from their fear of "what will they think of me" if her relationship appears to be single-sex. Some fear being labeled as a lesbian. Some are dealing with loved ones with very conservative viewpoints and do not want to "disappoint" them.

This is part of the growing process that we all go through. We start with ourselves and wonder the same things about what others will think of us. Over time, we accept it and come out to our spouses, family, and friends. Some will turn on you immediately, others will show signs that they may be okay with it once they adapt to the change.

Spouses are more observant than they let on, and I think your wife is warming to the idea. She just doesn't know how she will react to specific questions. You are doing the right thing by not forcing anything and allowing her to adjust in her own time. Hopefully, that will work out well for both of you.

You should read some of the stories in the Significant Other forum, and I think you'll see what I mean.

Good luck.
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