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Started by Tills, May 09, 2026, 04:13:44 AM

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Tills

Hi everyone,

This topic has probably been covered somewhere else on this forum but my search button can't find mention of either Euphoria or Hunter Shafer.

I came to this show partly because the 3rd season is being advertised all over Sky. And second because I've been catching up on some old James Bond movies, which led me to For Your Eyes Only (1981), which led me to Google 'transgender woman' actress. That's because, if you don't know, Caroline Tula Cossey makes a brief poolside appearance in For Your Eyes Only. Caroline is a female who was assigned male at birth.

Anyway, the Google search also pointed to Hunter Shafer, the 27 year old female who was assigned male at birth.

So I watched the first episode of Euphoria this morning. Blimey. It's very graphic but probably quite a good way of understanding the Gen Z generation.

I'm not sure from episode 1 that Hunter's character Jules is going to be a particularly good role model for transgender women (Spoiler - she's something of a Suga Baby) but casting Hunter to such a prominent role is pretty cool.

I get fed up with the looks-based approach to women assigned male at birth but Hunter Shafer is beautiful and you wouldn't know she wasn't born into a female body. I daresay it helped that she was able to transition young.

Trump's America issued her a Male passport last year. (Mod Edit - last sentence removed.)

Tills

p.s. is AMAB (Assigned Male at Birth) an acceptable term on this forum?

I rather like it because, as some of you may know, I dismiss the reductionist belief that biological sex and gender are different. It's just an attempt by control freaks to define something based on their own narrow definition and reductionism, choosing to ignore a multiplicity of conflicting evidence.

So I quite like the AMAB term.

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Stottie Girl

I am aware of this show and that it has a prominant transgender charactor/ actor in it. I believe it is on Netflix though so I can't see it. It does seem to garner a lot of praise and has a bit of a cultish following.

I'd be interested in what you think of it once you've watched a bit more of it.
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Quote from: Tills on May 09, 2026, 04:18:11 AMp.s. is AMAB (Assigned Male at Birth) an acceptable term on this forum?

It is.

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Quote from: Stottie Girl on May 09, 2026, 04:57:01 AMI am aware of this show and that it has a prominant transgender charactor/ actor in it. I believe it is on Netflix though so I can't see it. It does seem to garner a lot of praise and has a bit of a cultish following.

I'd be interested in what you think of it once you've watched a bit more of it.

Hi Stottie,

It's on HBO Max

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Stottie Girl

Quote from: Tills on May 09, 2026, 10:37:56 PMHi Stottie,

It's on HBO Max

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I didn't realise that was a thing in the UK Tills but it seems I can add it to my Amazon Subscription for £4.99. I don't watch much tv to be fair but there are some great shows on there. Might have to indulge!
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Tills

Quote from: Stottie Girl on May 10, 2026, 02:19:05 AMI didn't realise that was a thing in the UK Tills but it seems I can add it to my Amazon Subscription for £4.99. I don't watch much tv to be fair but there are some great shows on there. Might have to indulge!

Yeah my friend in Surrey has subscribed to it on her tv and that means I could use her subscription on my MacBook.

Needless to say I've ripped it instead ;)
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Stottie Girl

Quote from: Tills on May 10, 2026, 03:54:25 AMYeah my friend in Surrey has subscribed to it on her tv and that means I could use her subscription on my MacBook.

Needless to say I've ripped it instead ;)
Well I used to do ripping (like a lot!) but I got sick of bad links and websites shutting down, poor picture quality and so on. I just find it easier to pay the man these days! I'm not a prolific watcher of TV to be fair I haven't watched anything at all since Wednesday.
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Tills

Quote from: Stottie Girl on May 10, 2026, 04:00:22 AMWell I used to do ripping (like a lot!) but I got sick of bad links and websites shutting down, poor picture quality and so on. I just find it easier to pay the man these days! I'm not a prolific watcher of TV to be fair I haven't watched anything at all since Wednesday.

Oh I mean I download rip on Knaben (a mirror of Pirate Bay). I have a list of mirror sites and never have a problem. Knaben hasn't been down for ages. Quality is outstanding: 1080, 2160, HD, Bluray etc. It's very rare not to find a TV show I want to see.

For sites like BBC iPlayer I use ClipGrab or 4k Video Downloader.

All free. All superb definition.

p.s. Always use a VPN. And I don't condone or advocate any of the above. It's my personal choice having paid for zillions of tv shows, DVDs, CD, albums etc. in the past.
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Tills

Well I've watched two episodes. It's very violent, sexual, and packed full of drug taking.

If you want a really messed-up sight of the world through a warped Gen Z group then fine. But don't expect anything edifying or, frankly, enjoyable.

I think I'll stop there. Both on this thread and Euphoria the programme. The concept of euphoria "well-being" is as far removed from the show as you could imagine. Which I guess is their point. But it's an unremittingly video nasty.

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Stottie Girl

Hmm, maybe I'll pass then. I hope it wasn't depicting violence towards transgender folk or the opposite in fact. We could do with some positive role models/ characters in the media and in all honesty I can't think of any, which is a worrying indictment on our current society.

I am curious if there have been any in the past either. I don't recall any. We seem to be shunned in all aspects of life these days. Why can't we have a drama about somebodys transition journey and their path to finding love & happiness. It seems to me that if drama and emotional depth or inspiration is what you are looking for then it can be found in droves within these pages!

Any budding playwrights on here?
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Tills

To be fair to the Hunter Shayler character every single female in the show, and some males, seems to be on the receiving end of violence and often sexual and drug violence. So she's being treated as no different from any other woman. In some ways she's one of the most empowered characters.

But the show is just very sexual and sexually violent. I find it quite problematic that it's produced by older people, mostly men, and acted by people in their twenties all pretending to be teenagers. That feels quite abusive.

There's also no humour or chinks of light to relieve the unremitting thuggery in marked contrast to a show like The White Lotus. In some ways actually Hunter Shayler's character is the exception: a character of integrity and is immensely likeable.

Meanwhile, here's a YouTube Top 10 Transgender Characters on TV. There have actually been quite a few and some really positive role models:

🔗 [Link: youtube.com/watch/]

Check out Jamie Clayton in Sense8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Clayton#Personal_life 🔗

and Naomi Maines in Supergirl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Maines 🔗

I hope that does cheer you up a little :) The problem isn't the younger generations who are pretty used to us by now, and mostly accepting. It's the old gammons. And note just how their problem is almost always transgendered women not transgendered men which tells us so much about their own insecurities and their attitudes to women full stop. Things will change.
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Quote from: Tills on Yesterday at 04:48:38 AMTo be fair to the Hunter Shayler character every single female in the show, and some males, seems to be on the receiving end of violence and often sexual and drug violence. So she's being treated as no different from any other woman. In some ways she's one of the most empowered characters.

But the show is just very sexual and sexually violent. I find it quite problematic that it's produced by older people, mostly men, and acted by people in their twenties all pretending to be teenagers. That feels quite abusive.

There's also no humour or chinks of light to relieve the unremitting thuggery in marked contrast to a show like The White Lotus. In some ways actually Hunter Shayler's character is the exception: a character of integrity and is immensely likeable.

Meanwhile, here's a YouTube Top 10 Transgender Characters on TV. There have actually been quite a few and some really positive role models:

🔗 [Link: youtube.com/watch/]

Check out Jamie Clayton in Sense8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Clayton#Personal_life 🔗

and Naomi Maines in Supergirl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Maines 🔗

I hope that does cheer you up a little :) The problem isn't the younger generations who are pretty used to us by now, and mostly accepting. It's the old gammons. And note just how their problem is almost always transgendered women not transgendered men which tells us so much about their own insecurities and their attitudes to women full stop. Things will change.

Well maybe I needed to watch more tv and movies then Tills!

Thanks for posting that it gives me some ideas for things to watch in the future.

Appreciated!
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Tills

Just before I take a break from this place, wanted to say @Stottie Girl that I did soldier on to episode 3 today, which was somewhat better, because apparently Season 1 Episode 4 is all about Jules (Hunter Shafer) explaining about her transition. So I'm curious to see how that's portrayed.

TTFN.

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Quote from: Tills on Yesterday at 03:04:33 PMJust before I take a break from this place, wanted to say @Stottie Girl that I did soldier on to episode 3 today, which was somewhat better, because apparently Season 1 Episode 4 is all about Jules (Hunter Shafer) explaining about her transition. So I'm curious to see how that's portrayed.

TTFN.

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Please don't go Tills, thank you for the update on Euphoria but I want to know more about your journey with Tina Rashid and also on life in rural Scotland. My goal is to follow in your footsteps and your input is very valuable to me. You seem to have led a very interesting life so far and I had hoped to learn more about your adventures.

I am very angry about what happened last night for the record and this has left yet another bad taste in my mouth in an otherwise fabulous experience. I hope you can see it for what it was and I hope that moderators can learn from this also. This situation could have been handled far better than it has.

I was trying to message you last night about this but the website crashed (Again!) just as I was about to hit send and it didn't come back up before I had to go to bed.

Still "onwards we go" to quote Ashley!
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Never trust a man who, when left alone in a room with a tea cozy, doesn't try it on - Billy Connolley
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