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Eilidh99

I'm coming up on 3 years on HRT, this October, and I find it almost unbearable to be around friends who knew me before. I'm 42 and there's something about using my authentic voice and being myself around them that hurts. Like I find my voice therapy and the way of acting that reduces dysphoria just stops. Not necessarily looking for advice but wondering if anyone else went through that.

Stottie Girl

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I won't have that problem as I only have 1 friend left IRL! I can see how tough that would be though. I guess loosing friends and family is one of the risks we have to take.

I'm around 4 years HRT and still not out socially so I know what you mean about it becoming difficult. It is starting to feel like I'm cross dressing when I go out in boy mode!
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Welcome Eilidh.

I'm glad you found your way here.

Yes, what you're describing is real and you're not alone in it.

There's a particular exhaustion that comes from being around people who knew the old shape of you. Your body and voice have spent three years learning a different language, and being around them switches you back into the old one without you meaning to. The voice training slips, the posture slips, the small things you've built slip. Afterwards you feel like you've lost ground, even though you haven't really — you've just been code-switching at a cost.

What Stottie said up there is interesting from the other side of the same coin. She's 4 years HRT and not out socially, and she's getting to the point where boy mode itself feels like cross-dressing.

You're 3 years HRT and presumably out, and being around old friends pulls you back into something that feels equally foreign. Different situations, same underlying thing — at a certain point the work you've done makes the old presentation feel like a costume, and proximity to anything that demands it costs you. That's not you being fragile; that's you having actually changed.

You said you weren't looking for advice, so feel free to ignore this bit, but I'd gently say there's a difference between needing space from old friends for a while and avoiding them as a long-term strategy. The first is healthy and common at this stage. The second can quietly turn into isolation, and isolation has a way of feeling like protection right up until it doesn't.

A few things that have helped people I've known:

Setting ground rules with the ones who matter — Not an ultimatum, just an honest reset: "We're friends, I value our friendship, and this is who I am now. Here's what I need from you — the name, the pronouns, the voice, the version of me that's actually me. Here's what doesn't work anymore." Real friends will meet that.

Telling them how to handle slips — This is the bit people forget, and it's where a lot of friendships die quietly.

Let them know if you slip, just correct yourself, say the right name or pronoun, and keep going. Don't stop the conversation. Don't apologise three times. Don't make me reassure you that it's okay. Don't avoid me for a week because you're embarrassed. A quick correction and moving on is what I need; anything more makes the slip into a bigger event than it has to be and puts me in the position of managing your feelings about it. Most decent friends are relieved to be told this, because they're scared of getting it wrong and don't know what the right recovery looks like.

Choosing the setting carefully — Old friends in old places with old dynamics is the hardest version. Same friends, new context — your turf, somewhere they've never seen you, even a video call — often goes better. The physical environment carries a lot of the old patterns.

Noticing whether it's all of them or specific ones — Sometimes it's not the history pulling you back, it's one or two people who are subtly not on board and the rest follow their lead. Identifying who's actually the source can change the whole picture.

If someone won't meet you where you are now, the friendship isn't going to work, no matter the effort you put into it. Not because you're asking too much, but because the version of you they want you to be doesn't exist anymore. You can grieve the loss of that friendship, and you should — but you can't fix it by going back to being someone you're not.

Some friendships make it through transition, some don't, and which ones land where often surprises people. The ones who refuse aren't usually doing it out of malice; they're doing it because the old you was easier for them.  But, that's not a reason to keep showing up as the old you.

Three years is a long time to have been growing. The people around you get to grow too, or not — but that should be their choice to make with the real information, not yours to make for them by disappearing.

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Stottie Girl

Quote from: Eilidh99 on May 13, 2026, 02:07:17 PMI'm coming up on 3 years on HRT, this October, and I find it almost unbearable to be around friends who knew me before. I'm 42 and there's something about using my authentic voice and being myself around them that hurts. Like I find my voice therapy and the way of acting that reduces dysphoria just stops. Not necessarily looking for advice but wondering if anyone else went through that.
Oh Sorry Eilidh99! I didn't realise this was your first post! Welcome to Susans! I should have started with that ha ha!
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KathyLauren

Hi, Eilidh99.  Welcome.

I can't say that that is something I have experienced.  When I came out, I was thousands of miles away from old school friends and such, so the issue never came up.  I did come out quite publicly in my community, and all my more recent friends and colleagues knew about it and accepted me.  But there was no long history there to confuse them.

I actively sought out my old military colleagues online, and there is nothing uncomfortable there.  I kind of wish that my high school class had had a 50th reunion, so I could have reconnected with some of my old friends, but it didn't happen.  It could be that, after enough decades have passed, the awkwardness fades away.  The happiness of reconnecting after many years apart dominates.

I hope that you will eventually be comfortable around your old friends, and that they will be with you.
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Dances With Trees

A pleasure to make your acquaintance, Eilidh!

I came out as genderfluid leaning female about five years ago and immediately lost all of my (few) friends and about half of my family of origin.

About a month ago, an old friend from college emailed me (BTW, college was a long, long time ago). Such a pleasant surprise! After a few emails, I told her I was genderfluid.

She responded by calling me 'AnniKen' in her response, said she wasn't surprised, then went on with our conversation as though nothing had changed between us. Such a wonderful affirmation!

Stottie Girl

Quote from: Dances With Trees on May 14, 2026, 09:30:14 AMA pleasure to make your acquaintance, Eilidh!

I came out as genderfluid leaning female about five years ago and immediately lost all of my (few) friends and about half of my family of origin.

About a month ago, an old friend from college emailed me (BTW, college was a long, long time ago). Such a pleasant surprise! After a few emails, I told her I was genderfluid.

She responded by calling me 'AnniKen' in her response, said she wasn't surprised, then went on with our conversation as though nothing had changed between us. Such a wonderful affirmation!
That's nice Anni. You can never predict how people will react. I'm glad she is one of the "good souls". We need as many allies as we can get these days.
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Never trust a man who, when left alone in a room with a tea cozy, doesn't try it on - Billy Connolley

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I think I understand that. I feel that way about pretty much everyone who remembers me before I transitioned. I guess I just try to let in the people who really genuinely love/support me. The ones that don't really aren't important to me.

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Eilidh99

Really appreciate the responses. I gave it a lot of thought this past weekend. A lot of the people in my life are allies to or members of the LGBTQ+ community. The things is, I'm literally the 1st, trans-woman/transexual/trans-fem they have had in their personal lives! I've spent so long studying/learning/watching my community from the closet that I think it's easy to forget that people are people.

Which brings me to the terrible realization that I have to be more assertive. I was socialized to be aggressive, passive is off the table, does anyone know the Estradiol level that magically makes that happen? Hope everyone is safe and happy, if you're not, endure, the world needs you.

Liz K

Quote from: Eilidh99 on Today at 01:15:57 PMReally appreciate the responses. I gave it a lot of thought this past weekend. A lot of the people in my life are allies to or members of the LGBTQ+ community. The things is, I'm literally the 1st, trans-woman/transexual/trans-fem they have had in their personal lives! I've spent so long studying/learning/watching my community from the closet that I think it's easy to forget that people are people.

Which brings me to the terrible realization that I have to be more assertive. I was socialized to be aggressive, passive is off the table, does anyone know the Estradiol level that magically makes that happen? Hope everyone is safe and happy, if you're not, endure, the world needs you.
I think once estradiol levels are in the feminizing range, your brain works better, you become happier, you make better choices, and your ability to handle difficult situations improves.  At least that's been my experience.   It was a profound change.  I knew three days after my first dose that it was the right decision.

As for friends and family, I didn't really lose any.  If anything I became closer to many of them.  There are still a few that struggle and I don't hear from them as much.  But nobody has simply exited from my life.  I was the first trans person most of them knew.  I've become an 'ambassador' for our community.  Glad to wear that hat.

Stottie Girl

I would agree with Liz's experience on the mental effects of HRT, It certainly has been my experience too. I would concur that these calming effects happened very early on, like within the first few months. Of course everyone is different and there are plenty of aggressive females out there!
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Lori Dee

Quote from: Eilidh99 on Today at 01:15:57 PMWhich brings me to the terrible realization that I have to be more assertive. I was socialized to be aggressive, passive is off the table, does anyone know the Estradiol level that magically makes that happen?

Typically, aggression is associated with testosterone. In most cases, estradiol is prescribed with a testosterone blocker. This is because testosterone is more powerful than estrogen and can minimize its effectiveness.

So, the combination of estradiol and a testosterone blocker, reduces the agressiveness, while also providing a more calm and stress-reduced demeanor. For many people, that is enough to change their behavior, help them feel more at ease and less stressed out.

For some, like me, I was stressed out for most of my life and that made me a miserable person. Just after a few days, on E and T-blockers, I noticed the difference and that felt like a huge difference, almost euphoric. I knew then that there was no going back.
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I don't get so angry about other drivers whilst driving since transitioning so think I'm less aggressive. However i could still easily hurt a handful of people if given the chance.
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