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The Undeclared War On African American Trans Women

Started by Shana A, January 05, 2009, 06:44:05 AM

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TamTam

What about in places where prostitution is legal?  Is it still as bad if it's not against the law?
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NicholeW.

Quote from: lisagurl on January 06, 2009, 03:20:39 PM

... Leave the emotions out of reporting facts.

Humans will never be civilized as long as they let emotions run the show. Irrational acts based on feelings destroy life, liberty and happiness. The whole historic traditions based on gender have not improved the human character. Language itself is stuck with these traditions that lead to inequities and discrimination.

As long as sex is used as a tool to manipulate the human psyche the playing field will not be level.

Yeah, exactly what I mean. You are generally pretty unemotional about things but the s-e-x seems to always strike nerve-pay-dirt and emotional pay-dirt with ya.

Of course, I wouldn't press for an answer you don't want to give, but what you just called for seems to be exactly what you do in conversations about these topics. See what I mean, Lisa?

Nichole
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lisagurl

QuoteAs long as sex is used as a tool to manipulate the human psyche the playing field will not be level.

There are millions of things to comment on on the web. Personal selection of where to spend your time is a interesting subject. Is it emotional? Or is it important? Or is it a key to solving many problems? Or is it inspirational or a passion. How the mind works is dependent on many things. Goals, also have a part as people direct their will to completing them.  I could probably list many more I cared enough. But I do see a common thread on gender focused boards. That emotions are more important than objectivity especially those emotions that come from sexual feelings. Many that think that way are always shooting themselves in the foot and think the world is against them.
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lisagurl

Quotebut what you just called for seems to be exactly what you do in conversations

Your favorite straw-man?
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mina.magpie

#24
Quote from: lisagurl on January 06, 2009, 02:21:20 PMPersonal experience is subjective and is always less accurate than objective measurement to determine if something is going to happen.

Okay, cool. Usually when I bring stats and stuff into a discussion they get dismissed with that "you can use statistics to prove anything" argument. Sorry.

QuoteBreaking the law leads to lawlessness. Then Murder is OK because it is OK to break the law. Not reporting a crime is also a crime. Police alone could never catch and solve crimes without the public help. So crime escalates in areas that allow small crimes because the larger crime commits know that no one will talk.

Ah but she did go to the police. They wanted her to testify in open court. She feared for her life if she did so. If she had worked in a well regulated, protected industry, she would likely never have been in the position to witness such a crime, except by chance.

QuoteThey simply did not run afoul. They made bad decisions, poor judgments and broke the law. They could of gone to a shelter. The could of used the state employment services. They could of taken advantage of education of English programs. My father ran a factory that 90% of the workers did not speak English they did hair dresser work on wigs. Ignorance of law is not an excuse to break it. It takes a person willing and wanting to do what is right rather than what ever emotionally is easy.

Trans-people in the UK are still horribly marginalised. My first friend tried the avenues you describe. Nobody wanted to hire her, woman's shelters turned her away, she couldn't go to male shelters for obvious reasons. It's not so easy my dear. When you are part of an unwanted minority, by definition, people don't want you.

As for the South American friend, she was there on a student's visa, I was there on a working holiday visa. Neither of those visas allow you recourse to state funds.

Okay, on to the fact-based discussion:

I just want to make sure that we're arguing the same position, for or against, so would you agree to this being an accurate statement of why prostitution should remain illegal? Please feel free to add specific objections you have to prostitution that aren't covered here.

Quote from: http://www.csun.edu/~psy453/prosti_y.htm
Until the 1960s, attitudes toward prostitution were based on Judeo-Christian views of immorality. Researchers have recently attempted to separate moral issues from the reality of prostitution. The rationale for its continued illegal status in the U.S. rests on three assumptions: 1) prostitution is linked to organized crime; 2) prostitution is responsible for much ancillary crime; and 3) prostitution is the cause of an increase in venereal disease.

I would probably add one that I see argued fairly often: 4)prostitution should remain illegal to protect sex-workers potential or current, from trafficking, exploitation and violence.

Mina.
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lisagurl

QuoteAs for the South American friend, she was there on a student's visa, I was there on a working holiday visa. Neither of those visas allow you recourse to state funds.

Neither of those visa's allow you to work and stay so as illegals you should have been deported. There are laws for reasons. People come to different cultures and expect them to accommodate law breakers because they are needy? Here in the U.S people are expected to learn our history and language, as  they earn there citizenship. Again skirting the law ends up in big problems which is not the way to gain sympathy or help.
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tekla

As Bush and Cheney, and Clinton, and Nixon have taught us - the law is pretty much what you make it.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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soldierjane

Quote from: lisagurl on January 07, 2009, 11:05:55 AM
QuoteAs for the South American friend, she was there on a student's visa, I was there on a working holiday visa. Neither of those visas allow you recourse to state funds.

Neither of those visa's allow you to work and stay so as illegals you should have been deported. There are laws for reasons. People come to different cultures and expect them to accommodate law breakers because they are needy? Here in the U.S people are expected to learn our history and language, as  they earn there citizenship. Again skirting the law ends up in big problems which is not the way to gain sympathy or help.


Of course. Having never felt what it's like having to emigrate to the other side of the world to be able to actually have a life escapes your First World, American upbringing so you can declamate all these tough-sounding maxims about breaking the law and waiting in queues from your comfy armchair.

Lisa, you have no idea. No idea.
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mina.magpie

Quote from: lisagurl on January 07, 2009, 11:05:55 AMNeither of those visa's allow you to work and stay so as illegals you should have been deported. There are laws for reasons. People come to different cultures and expect them to accommodate law breakers because they are needy? Here in the U.S people are expected to learn our history and language, as  they earn there citizenship. Again skirting the law ends up in big problems which is not the way to gain sympathy or help.

Actually both do. The student visa allows a part-time job of up to 20 hours, while a working holiday visa is a Work visa specifically for young Commonwealth citizens. That's beside the point though.

The point, is that for her going back home meant a life of grinding poverty and very little else. Going to the UK was an out her parents gave her, which unfortunately didn't last. And just to be clear, she still held a valid student visa, so she was in the UK legally, and the only reason she wanted to leave was because she felt she had no choice, since her life was in danger.

Don't be so quick to judge people and situations you have no experience of. When things become a matter of survival, you'd be surprised at what values and morals you are willing to suspend. The world is not nearly so black and white as you would like for it to be.

Still curious whether you're willing to take this from an emotional exchange to a fact-based discussion, so I'll ask again: Specifically, what objections do you have against prostitution? Do you agree with the four rationales against legalisation I posted?

Mina.
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lisagurl

QuoteSpecifically, what objections do you have against prostitution?

1. It is degrading to all female gender.
2. It makes any kind of intimate love suspect.
3. It enforces cultural and gender bigotry.
4. It spreads decease.
5. It promotes gender stereotypes.
6. It attracts other illegal activities such as gambling, racketeering, drugs,slave trade etc. (Amsterdam has all those problems after it legalized prostitution.)
7. It promotes jealously in families and eventually leads to single parent situations which is not the best for children.
8. It is a short lived occupation which hastily ages the person and leaves them with no marketable skills later in life.
9. There is no hope of advancement.
10. The death rate from abuse and other health problems is much higher than any other job.
I am tired of typing as I could go on.
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soldierjane


Quote from: lisagurl on January 07, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
7. It promotes jealously in families and eventually leads to single parent situations which is not the best for children.


lol... so my husband can have the hots for the neighbour and as long as she's not a prostitute, I shouldn't be jealous.
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lisagurl

Quotelol... so my husband can have the hots for the neighbor and as long as she's not a prostitute, I shouldn't be jealous.

Your neighbor having sex with a married man is also degrading to all women. The idea of using sex to market products does the same thing. A study was done having men watch sexy commercials and another group watching none sexy commercials. Then the men interviewed women for an executive job. The group that saw the sexy commercials put many more degrading questions to the applicant and flirted as well as embarrassed the women and the other group of men were much more professional.

Your husband having the hots means he is missing something at home or not satisfied. Something to talk about. Perhaps the jealousy is unwarranted.

11. Not to mention it does not look good on a resume.
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glendagladwitch

How puritanical.  And women were not at all degraded and subjugated in that society, were they?
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TamTam

1. It is degrading to all female gender.
I don't feel degraded in the least.  I'm not a prostitute, why should I feel degraded?  What they do with their lives does not affect what I do with my life.

2. It makes any kind of intimate love suspect.
No it doesn't.  You don't sleep with somebody wondering if they're a prostitute on the side or not, or whatever.  This makes no sense.

3. It enforces cultural and gender bigotry.
Not really.  You do realize there are male prostitutes, right?

4. It spreads decease.
Any unprotected sex spreads disease.  Many prostitutes now refuse to do anything without condoms involved, which basically removes this from being a valid concern.  And if you did mean 'decease,' no, it doesn't spread death, either, not any more than other dangerous jobs.

5. It promotes gender stereotypes.
Walking down the street in feminine clothing promotes gender stereotypes.  Unless everyone in the world became androgynous tomorrow, there would still be gender stereotypes.  Again, there are male prostitutes.

6. It attracts other illegal activities such as gambling, racketeering, drugs,slave trade etc. (Amsterdam has all those problems after it legalized prostitution.)
Amsterdam?  Are we talking about the same place?  I thought Amsterdam was very lawful and organized.  At any rate, all those things you listed would still be around without prostitution.  Prostitution is not a cause, it just happens to be lumped together with those things.

7. It promotes jealously in families and eventually leads to single parent situations which is not the best for children.
Lol what?!  First of all, single parent families can be just fine for children.  Second of all, prostitution only promotes 'jealousy' in families if the spouse has chosen to see one.  In which case, the couple would have had problems anyway, whether that particular outlet for it existed or not.  The existence of prostitution doesn't force people to cheat on their spouses, they either will or they won't.

8. It is a short lived occupation which hastily ages the person and leaves them with no marketable skills later in life.
It's still the woman's choice to do this if she wishes.  As I've said before, we can disagree with something, we can not understand or condone the decision, but that doesn't give us the right to judge others or tell them they 'can't' do something just because we personally find it distasteful.  Besides which, who says prostitutes don't have other jobs on the side which are giving them marketable skills?  Who says they're not educated?  You're making sweeping generalizations.

9. There is no hope of advancement.
Depends on what you mean by advancement, I suppose.  But anyway, lots of jobs have little hope of advancement, I don't see you railing against janitors and waitresses.

10. The death rate from abuse and other health problems is much higher than any other job.
Again, it's the person's choice to do this.  Hate the sin, not the sinner.  And if this is about death rate and the danger involved, you should be against mining and construction and firefighting and astronauts and all kinds of dangerous jobs.  Danger =/= bad.

11. Not to mention it does not look good on a resume.
Lol, like they really put it on their resumes?  News flash.. they don't care what you think of them.  If they cared so much about how it looked to other people, they probably wouldn't do it.
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lisagurl

QuoteI don't feel degraded in the least.  I'm not a prostitute, why should I feel degraded?  What they do with their lives does not affect what I do with my life.

Your life is effected by what your group of peers does. Men that watch sexy commercials treat women like sex objects. They do not discriminate about individuals. Research proves it.

QuoteNo it doesn't.  You don't sleep with somebody wondering if they're a prostitute on the side or not, or whatever.  This makes no sense.

The prostitute themselves are confused between a John that is paying and a person they have should have feelings for. Hence they forget what love is.

QuoteNot really.  You do realize there are male prostitutes, right?

The aggressive male behavior is enforced in both cases.

QuoteAny unprotected sex spreads disease.

There is more disease than SIDs. TB, viruses, flues, infections etc.

QuoteWalking down the street in feminine clothing promotes gender stereotypes.

Certain type of clothing degrades and invites unwanted behavior also stamps a person for expected abuse.

Read "Dress for Success"

QuoteAmsterdam?  Are we talking about the same place?

Do your research. Even Times Square had the problem, now it much more civil with much less crime and much safer.

QuoteFirst of all, single parent families can be just fine for children.

Most research points to crime from children from single parents because they do not get the attention and disciplined they need.

QuoteThe existence of prostitution doesn't force people to cheat on their spouses,

Just like restaurants that allow smoking do not contribute to people smoking.

QuoteYou're making sweeping generalizations.

Look at the statistics you yourself said that speaking English is what prevented her from getting a job. Education!

QuoteI don't see you railing against janitors and waitresses

My father started as a janitor and became Vice President.

QuoteAgain, it's the person's choice to do this.

It has a much higher death rate than any other job. It drives up health care costs which we all pay.

QuoteLol, like they really put it on their resumes

You have to account for your deeds. Not telling the truth just invites more problems as a person could never be trustworthy our receive any security clearance again limiting any success in life.
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mina.magpie

Please note: The main report I cite: report was commissioned by the New Zealand Justice Department's Prostitution Law Review Committee. I mention it here so I don't have to retype the whole shebang over and over again later.

Quote from: lisagurl on January 07, 2009, 03:03:06 PM1. It is degrading to all female gender.
This is an opinion.

Quote2. It makes any kind of intimate love suspect.
Again, an opinion.

Quote3. It enforces cultural and gender bigotry.
An opinion.

Quote4. It spreads disease.
Those diseases spread because of unsafe sex, and unsafe sex occurs because of a combination of ignorance and an imbalance of power, which gets entrenched precisely because prostitution is unregulated. Prostitutes are uneducated about HIV and other STD's, and even where they are informed, they often do not feel they have the power to say no, because they know they have no recourse to the police or other institutions of protection should they find themselves in a dangerous situation.

In countries where prostitution is legal and regulated, prostitutes in fact tend to be healthier than the general population:

Quote from: B. Leopold, E. Steffan, N. Paul
GERMANY:

A study in 1992 found that only 2.5% of the tested prostitutes had a disease, a rate much lower than the one among comparable non-prostitutes.

Source: Dokumentation zur rechtlichen und sozialen Situation von Prostitutierten in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland, Schriftenreihe des Bundesministeriums für Frauen und Jugend, Band 15, 1993, via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Germany

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SENEGAL:

Health and safety – Senegal first African country to legalise commercial sex (with routine health checks) to curb the spread of AIDs and other STIs. Senegal has one of the lowest rates of HIV/AIDs in Africa; HIV infection rate of just 2% much lower than rates in neighbouring countries. (Prostitution ProCon (2007))

Source: http://www.justice.govt.nz/prostitution-law-review-committee/publications/international-approaches/chapter-3.html

Finally, where prostitutes HAVE been educated and mobilised in the fight against STD's, they have had a positive influence:

Quote from: Rwankineza R, Bandira O; International Conference on AIDS (15th : 2004 : Bangkok, Thailand).
From a study detailing an HIV education initiative amongst prostitutes in Burundi. These results from a refugee camp at Bujumbura:

Results:50 women publicly accepted to have practiced prostitution. They recognized that they were now conscient of the bad consequences of prostitution. Among the 30 prostitutes who accepted to volonteerly do the test of AIDS. 18 were HIV negative and 12 were HIV positive. Their new behaviour lead their partners to also change. Conclusions: The project allowed the improvement of the prostitutes HIV knowledge and the adoption of responsible behaviour; The income generating activities allowed those women to improve their socio-economic conditions and to be independent vis-a-vis their partners.

Please pardon poor grammar. Study coordinators not native English speakers.

Source: US National Library of Medicine: http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102278392.html

Quote5. It promotes gender stereotypes.
How exactly? There are many male prostitutes out there too. What it does do is objectify both sexes, but then, so does porn, modelling and watersports (hmmm... surfers... ;D), all of which are legal.

Quote6. It attracts other illegal activities such as gambling, racketeering, drugs,slave trade etc. (Amsterdam has all those problems after it legalized prostitution.)

Not so. As demonstrated in the following quote, regulated prostitution actually drove organised crime out to less controlled areas:

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DENMARK:

Criminal activity (trafficking and minors) – reported as having not decreased, but moved to regions with less control (Bindel & Kelly, 2004)

Source: http://www.justice.govt.nz/prostitution-law-review-committee/publications/international-approaches/chapter-3.html

Where prostituation is legal and the stigma removed, prostitutes and clients can actually aid in combatting illegal activities:

Quote
TURKEY:

Trafficking – clients in Turkey helping to report trafficked women following introduction of a charge-free hotline. Turkish men are reported to have an 'old-fashioned' view of women. They don't mind using sex workers, but they want the woman to be doing this willingly. 'If she's found not to be doing it willingly ... it affects their pride' (Beattie, 2005).

Source: http://www.justice.govt.nz/prostitution-law-review-committee/publications/international-approaches/chapter-3.html

Quote7. It promotes jealously in families and eventually leads to single parent situations which is not the best for children.
Again, how? Please provide evidence I can look at. If a couple is happily married, they won't be seeking things elsewhere. If they are not, they don't need to find a prostitute - the next-door-neighbour, somebody at a bar or a colleague all do perfectly well.

Quote8. It is a short lived occupation which hastily ages the person and leaves them with no marketable skills later in life.
True, but then, as Tam-Tam points out, the same is true of waitering or sweeping the streets or being a woodcutter or, or, or. All these are specialised professions that provide you with skills applicable only to that profession, except incidental soft skills you might pick up.

Quote9. There is no hope of advancement.

True and untrue. In the same way that a plumber is, well, a plumber, a prostitute is a prostitute. On the other hand, both can advance into working for themselves or even eventually owning a business.

Quote10. The death rate from abuse and other health problems is much higher than any other job.

See point six above for arguments against mortality from health problems. As for abuse, this comes about as a result of the environment created through criminalization. Where prostitution has been decriminalised, the health and safety of prostitutes has generally improved:

Quote
AUSTRALIA:

While firm conclusions are hard to draw, some evidence is emerging that health, safety and working conditions are improved in decriminalised regimes (e.g. New South Wales) and to some extent within legalised regimes (e.g. Victoria, Queensland, Netherlands, and Nevada). Improvements in the legalised regimes were limited to those businesses that were operating within the regulations and did not extend to the illegal operations.

Source: http://www.justice.govt.nz/prostitution-law-review-committee/publications/international-approaches/chapter-4.html

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NEVADA, USA:

Safety – legal brothels found in general to offer a safer working environment than illegal ones. Legalisation of prostitution seen to bring a level of public scrutiny, official regulation, and bureaucratisation of brothels that decreases the risk of three types of systematic violence; interpersonal violence against sex workers, violence against community order, and sexually transmitted diseases as violence (Brents & Hausbeck, (2005))

Source: http://www.justice.govt.nz/prostitution-law-review-committee/publications/international-approaches/chapter-3.html

On a general note, this article does a good job of summarising all the statistics out there, a job I'm just too lazy to take on right now.

Mina.
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lisagurl

QuoteNEVADA, USA

The business is in isolated in middle of nowhere there is not local community to destroy, just those who work and play there. It is illegal in the city be cause of the reasons given. You avoided the decease issue you only stated licensed health inspected prostitutes have less STD than none legal ones, I agree, however then still have more of the other sicknesses. Which your info avoids. Then again only where legal prostitutes get regular health inspections Neither of the killed black prostitutes did.

QuoteThis is an opinion.

So is jumping off a bridge.
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glendagladwitch

Perhaps slightly back on topic, it seems to me that there is a very loudly proclaimed war on transwomen in general.  But, in the US, the war is just carrried out by diffferent means for different classes of people.  For most, excluding people to death is the weapon of choice.  The black community in the US has a different culture.  Am I allowed to say that?
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lisagurl

Street Prostitution
Guide No.2 (2006)
by Michael S. Scott & Kelly Dedel

The Problem of Street Prostitution
What This Guide Does and Does Not Cover
This guide addresses the problem of street prostitution, focusing on female prostitutes and male clients. It begins by describing the problem and reviewing factors that contribute to it. It then identifies a series of questions to help you analyze your local problem. Finally, it reviews responses to the problem, and what is known about them from evaluative research and practice.

Street prostitution is only one of a number of sexual activity-related problems the police must address. This guide is limited to addressing the particular harms street prostitution creates. Related problems not directly addressed in this guide include

consensual, unpaid sex in public places, including meeting places for anonymous sex among homosexuals
homosexual prostitution, also known as "hustling" (young homosexual prostitution is also known as the "chicken hawk trade")
illegal immigration and forced prostitution (international trafficking in women and girls)
juvenile runaways drawn into prostitution
organized crime connections to prostitution
prostitution at truck stops or motels
prostitution through call girls, escort services, internet listings, and massage parlors, and at bars, hotels, and conventions
serial murders of prostitutes
solicitation by leaving calling cards in conspicuous public places (e.g., phone booths)
strip clubs in which strippers also engage in prostitution
transvestite prostitution.
Some of these related problems are covered in other guides in this series, all of which are listed at the end of this guide. For the most up-to-date listing of current and future guides, see www.popcenter.org.

There are widely different perspectives on prostitution. Some view the prostitutes as primarily responsible for the problem; some view the clients as responsible, and the prostitutes as victims.† Others view prostitution as a private matter in which the state should not intervene. Community morals and beliefs about how the law should regulate morality will affect how any particular community addresses street prostitution. This guide does not adopt any particular moral perspective: It is intended to objectively inform you and other policymakers about the effectiveness and consequences of various approaches to controlling street prostitution. Before discussing response options, a general overview of the problem is provided.††

† For example, in Sweden, prostitution is officially considered a form of sexual violence against women. Prostitutes do not risk legal penalties. The public strongly supports this policy, with an 80 percent approval rate (Eckberg 2004).

†† The information in this section is drawn from many sources, not all of which are cited. Among the sources most heavily relied on are Benson and Matthews (1995); Cohen (1980); Matthews (1993) [Full text],[Briefing note]; May, Edmunds, and Hough (1999)[Full text],[Briefing note]; Sterk and Elifson (1990); van Gelder and Kaplan (1992); Weidner (2001); and Weitzer (2000).

Harms Caused by Street Prostitution
Street prostitution varies across the individual prostitutes involved and their commitment to prostitution, the market size, the community's tolerance levels, the degree to which prostitutes are organized, and the relationship of prostitution to drug use and trafficking. Street prostitution accounts for perhaps only 10 to 20 percent of all prostitution, but it has the most visible negative impact on the community.

The following are among the many reasons why the police should be concerned about street prostitution. [1]

Moral and Nuisance Concerns
Prostitution offends some citizens' moral standards.
Prostitution is a nuisance to passersby and to nearby residents and businesses.
Prostitutes and clients offend uninvolved people in the area when they solicit them.
Juveniles, less capable of making informed choices, may become prostitutes.
Public Health Concerns

Used condoms and syringes commonly found on the ground in street prostitution areas are unsightly and potentially hazardous. Photo: Bob Heimberger
Prostitutes and clients may spread sexually transmitted diseases such as syphilis, herpes, and AIDS.†
Used condoms, syringes, and other paraphernalia left on the ground are unsightly and potentially hazardous.
Prostitutes who do not have access to proper facilities may urinate, defecate, or bathe in public.
† Contrary to popular belief, prostitution has not been demonstrated to be a primary means of HIV transmission, at least not in the United States, largely because most street prostitution sex acts are oral rather than vaginal (oral transmission is less likely), most prostitutes insist that clients use condoms (less true of drug-dependent prostitutes), and transmission is more difficult from female to male. Of course, fear of contracting HIV has likely changed the sex practices of some prostitutes and clients. HIV transmission among prostitutes is more likely to occur from sharing needles for drug injections (Weitzer 2000).

Personal Safety Concerns
Clients may harm prostitutes.
Clients or prostitutes may be defrauded, robbed, or assaulted.
Pimps may financially and physically exploit prostitutes.
Spillover-Effect Concerns
Street prostitution and street drug markets are often linked.
Prostitution may provide the seedbed for organized crime.
Prostitutes create parking and traffic problems where they congregate.
Prostitution attracts strangers and criminals to a neighborhood.
Economic Concerns
Legitimate businesses may lose customers who avoid the area because of prostitution.
Prostitutes' presence may negatively affect the area economy, reducing property values and limiting property use.
Civil Rights Concerns
Prostitutes, as citizens, have rights that need to be protected.
Police Integrity Concerns
Policing prostitution creates special opportunities for police officers to engage in unethical conduct, such as taking payments in exchange for nonenforcement, because prostitutes, pimps, and clients are in weak positions to complain about police misconduct. [2]
Factors Contributing to Street Prostitution
Understanding the factors that are known to contribute to your problem will help you frame your own local analysis questions, determine good effectiveness measures, recognize key intervention points, and select an appropriate set of responses for your particular problem. The literature on street prostitution provides a general picture of street prostitutes, clients, pimps, sexual transactions, areas where street prostitution thrives, and links between street prostitution and drugs.

Street Prostitutes
Street prostitutes have lower status than indoor prostitutes. They are often in some state of personal decline (e.g., running away from abusive situations, becoming drug-dependent, deteriorating psychologically, and/or getting less physically attractive). [3] Most have social, economic, and health problems. Most first turn to prostitution at a young age, often before they are 18. [4]

Street prostitutes are not equally committed to prostitution: some are deeply committed for financial and lifestyle reasons; some are committed only due to drug dependency; and some are weakly committed, engaging in prostitution because it is the easiest way for them to make some money. Their inability to find adequately paying work elsewhere is the most common reason prostitutes give to explain their choice to work on the street. [5] Many prostitutes try to leave the streets, although they often return and then leave again. Most return to prostitution because their limited education and lack of skills make finding employment very difficult. Without a means to support themselves and their children, they may think staying on the streets is less risky than leaving prostitution. [6]

The typical street prostitute works six to eight hours a day, five to six days a week, and has three to five clients a night. [7] Street prostitutes' lives are organized principally around prostitution itself, and around maneuvering through the legal system. It is a cycle of engaging in prostitution, getting arrested, going to jail, paying fines, and returning to the street.

Some street prostitutes are highly mobile, traveling from one city to another, sometimes on a regular circuit, or when they think the risks are too high in one city or the money is better in another.

Although most sexual encounters do not involve violence, most street prostitutes report having been criminally assaulted at least once by clients. [8] A small percentage of clients are likely responsible for most of the violence committed against prostitutes. The pattern of violence in pimp-prostitute relationships is similar to that of domestic violence. Prostitutes do not report most assaults to the police because they either fear retaliation by pimps or believe the police will not take the matter seriously, or will charge them for soliciting. [9] Both prostitutes and those who assault them may believe prostitutes are not entitled to the criminal justice systems' normal protections. [10]

Street Prostitutes' Clients
Prostitution clients, typically referred to as "johns" or "tricks," are attracted to the illicit nature of the encounter, desire sex acts that regular partners do not provide, view sex as merely a commodity, and/or lack interest in or access to conventional relationships. [11] Others are drawn to the fact that no commitment is required, and view these interactions as less risky than having an affair. [12] Clients' decision to solicit a prostitute is influenced by availability of prostitutes, knowledge of where to find them, access to money, perceived risk of getting caught or contracting disease, and ease of securing services. Clients gather such information in a variety of ways: from trial and error; from personal recommendations from others (including friends, bartenders, taxi drivers, and hotel workers); and, increasingly, from information posted on internet websites.

Somewhere around 10 to 20 percent of men admit they have paid for sex, but only about 1 percent pay for sex regularly. [13] While this is still a large number of potential clients, it is considerably lower than some earlier estimates based on flawed research methods. The characteristics of men arrested for soliciting vary considerably and do not form any clear patterns. [14] Many seek to rationalize their conduct to themselves and others. When stopped by police, clients often try to justify their behavior by telling a sob story of personal loss, or will admit to cruising but not soliciting, stating they were just curious. [15] Others resist the idea that prostitution is immoral.

Clients are more easily deterred than prostitutes. [16] They are more readily ashamed of their behavior, and fear harming their public reputation or their standing in their personal lives. Consequently, they fear being identified publicly more than being fined for their conduct.

Pimps
It is unclear what percentage of street prostitutes have pimps; prostitutes are reluctant to talk to anyone about their pimps, and it is difficult for police to make cases against pimps. Pimps recruit and socialize prostitutes into the prostitution subculture by appealing to either their desire for money or their desire for what they believe will be a glamorous and exciting lifestyle. [17]

Pimps seldom procure clients for prostitutes, because clients do not typically want to associate with anyone other than the prostitute. Pimps do not offer prostitutes much protection against client violence, but do offer them protection against assault by other pimps.† Although classic pimp relationships still exist in both the United States and the United Kingdom, many men with serious drug addictions force their girlfriends into prostitution to support their drug habits. [18]

† One study found, however, that women with pimps experienced higher levels of client violence than those without pimps. Women with pimps tended to work in more dangerous areas and take more risks because of pressure to earn a certain amount of money (Norton-Hawk 2004).

Pimps use violence and drug dependency as means to control prostitutes. Many pimps resemble the batterers in domestic violence situations, and women under their control often react similarly to domestic violence victims. [19] They may express love and admiration for their pimps and may feel they deserve the violence. Pimps control both their freedom and their finances. By some estimates, pimps take 60 to 70 percent of prostitutes' earnings.

Sexual Transactions
The prices for sex acts vary a little from community to community. Depending on how desperate the prostitutes are for money, they typically charge $20 to $50 for oral sex, and $50 to $100 for sexual intercourse. Among crack-addicted prostitutes, the price can be as low as the market price for a single rock of crack cocaine. The typical sexual transaction takes around 10 minutes in a vehicle (usually for oral sex), and around 25 minutes indoors.

Areas Where Street Prostitution Exists
Street prostitution markets go through stages of development—they emerge, expand, stabilize, and disappear. [20] Sometimes they emerge by accident, when a few prostitutes happen upon a new location; sometimes they emerge because of changes in an area's traffic or commercial patterns (e.g., new roadways or new businesses such as adult entertainment establishments); and sometimes they emerge because police enforcement displaced them. It is important that an area be known for street prostitution so clients will know where to look.

Street prostitution is more prevalent in run-down neighborhoods. Those that are populated heavily by unattached males are more vulnerable to street prostitution than those with a lot of women, families, or elderly residents, because the likelihood of vocal community opposition is lower. For street prostitution to thrive, the surrounding neighborhood cannot be too crime-ridden or appear too threatening to potential clients. Consequently, it is often found in areas that are marginal or in transition, rather than in thoroughly blighted areas. However, the emergence of street prostitution will almost certainly speed up decline. Neighborhood redevelopment or gentrification frequently prompts strong community opposition to street prostitution, and clearly drives much of the pressure on the police to control it.

Street prostitution areas are typically small, less than a square mile. Larger cities usually have several such areas. They are typically industrial sites; declining residential areas; those near major thoroughfares, including tunnels, bridges, or airport access roads; or those near transportation hubs, such as train and bus stations. Street prostitution flourishes around convention centers and hotels, especially when mostly male conventions are held.

Street prostitution thrives in areas where it does not conflict with legitimate business, but rather, supports and is supported by that business. The following foster street prostitution:

places where sexual transactions can occur, such as cheap motels and hotels, dimly lit parking lots, alleys, and abandoned buildings

Street prostitution often thrives in areas where there are cheap motels and hotels. Photo: Bob Heimberger

places where prostitutes can take a break, such as coffee shops or bars
places near a street drug market, so prostitutes and clients can readily buy drugs
places offering escape avenues from the police and dangerous clients
roads that allow drivers to slow down or stop, ideally where the driver's side of the vehicle is closest to the curb.
Prostitutes usually take clients to places that minimize the risk of violence and ensure that transactions occur without incident. [21] These places are often near the street where the negotiation occurred so that the amount of time required for each transaction is limited. Most are out of sight of passersby but not so secluded that prostitutes will be unable to attract attention if they need help.


Street prostitution thrives along roads where prostitutes can talk to drivers from the curbside. Photo: Bob Morris

Links Between Street Prostitution and Drugs
Street prostitution and street drug markets are often closely linked, supporting and reinforcing one another. [22] Many street prostitutes use illegal drugs, mainly methamphetamine, cocaine, or heroin. Many female serious drug users turn to prostitution at some point to finance their habit. Some prostitutes develop drug habits before turning to prostitution, while others start using drugs as part of the street prostitution lifestyle. Prostitutes are a significant customer base for street- level drug dealers.

Crack cocaine markets drive down the price of street prostitution, as some prostitutes, desperate to buy drugs, sell sex cheaply. Other prostitutes resent them for driving down prices or permitting sex without condoms, and pimps punish them for withholding their earnings to buy drugs. Drug-dependent prostitutes are more vulnerable to violence and more likely to rob their clients. In summary, where drugs and street prostitution are linked, street prostitution becomes less predictable and more dangerous.

  The specific prohibitions mentioned in the San Bernardino restraining order are:

approaching or signaling to any vehicle in any street, alley, or other public passage area, thus causing the vehicle to stop, unless a legitimate emergency so requires
blocking the passage of any person or vehicle in any street, walkway, sidewalk, driveway, alley, or other public passage area
being on, or causing others to be on, private property, except (1) with the property owner's prior written consent, or (2) in the property owner's presence and with his or her voluntary consent
being on the premises of an uninhabited or abandoned building
making, causing, or encouraging others to violate noise restrictions
fighting in public or any place open to public view or hearing
drinking any alcoholic beverage in public or any place open to public view
urinating or defecating in public or any place open to public view
littering, including discarding cans, bottles, cigarettes, condoms, or hypodermic needles other than in a proper trash can
damaging or vandalizing another's property, including any light fixture, fence, gate, wall, or window
applying graffiti to any public or private property, including any building, fence, wall, garage door, street sign, tree, pole, or vehicle
congregating in any public place for the purpose of engaging in any conduct prohibited by this injunction, or any criminal activity
intimidating, provoking, harassing, challenging, or carrying out any acts of retaliation, including, but not limited to, using abusive or vulgar language to harass any person (San Bernardino Police Department 1999).
You should consult with legal counsel about the requirements for obtaining restraining orders. It may also take a lot of time and effort to obtain the documentation necessary for a restraining order.

These are factors that lead to the death and so called undeclared war.
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Now, a group of former prostitutes in South Korea have accused some of their country's former leaders of a different kind of abuse: encouraging them to have sex with the American soldiers who protected South Korea from North Korea. They also accuse past South Korean governments, and the United States military, of taking a direct hand in the sex trade from the 1960s through the 1980s, working together to build a testing and treatment system to ensure that prostitutes were disease-free for American troops.

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