There are, I suspect, people who say what Jasmine reports, that SRS results in a "fake" vagina, but who would be offended by people who call them "fake" women. That's hypocritical. The words "artificial" and "fake" are putdowns. Using them legitimizes discrimination against all transgendered people. It may be an honest opinion, but it's about as helpful as the opinion of those who dissociate themselves from other trans people. Look, we often expand our definitions. Sometimes that's a good thing.
If it's your opinion -- and frankly, I share this opinion -- that SRS doesn't give you something you can call a "real" vagina, simply state what you feel is "not real" about it, and why that affects your decisions. Don't use the words "unnatural," "fake," and "artificial." They are value-laden slurs. Instead say, "SRS can't fix the problem that I can never bear children, and that is what is important to me," or "I am uncomfortable with using surgury to correct cosmetic problems," or "I don't want to bother with the trouble of dilation," or all of the above, or whatever your particular issue is. See how that's more precise and less judgmental?
Quote from: Ashley315 on April 18, 2009, 06:53:35 PM
Oh god.. we have another one of those "I'm in a higher place than you because I have a vagina" people in here. Get a clue please. You will always be just as transgendered as any non-op no matter what you call yourself. None-ops are by far not stuck anywhere and in some regards are far more enlightened and realistic than you will ever be.
For the record.. I will be post op soon enough. My point was, (and it's often missed by those of lower IQ), that everyone has the right to say what they want about things. It's only insulting if you are so weak minded that you allow something so trivial as someones opinion hurt your ego that much.
What is this crap about "There is a growing trend that a lot of trans-women love what's between their legs and feel no need to have SRS". I really fail to believe that this is even remotely the case. Anyone trans person who "loves" the penis they are born with are probably not transgendered and instead are people who have taken a fetish or way of life way to far.
Trans people need to get over themselves.. Drama queens..... I see why the general populace can't accept us now. We b#tch and moan to much about nothing.
Please feel free to try and burn me at the stake for my post.... I know it's coming, but you know what? The best part about being me.... I really don't give 2 rats butts what anyone else thinks about me except one person in this world and she loves me 100%. Everyone else can DIAF for all I care.
Excuse me? What's with the attitude? Are you implying that anyone who disagrees with you has a low IQ?
And what do you mean that it's only insulting if you're weak-minded? Gee, I guess I'm weak-minded because I find posts by anti-trans bigots on news articles about Angie Zapata to be insulting. Or are you saying that nothing is insulting? When someone says they're insulted by something you say, try to have a little empathy and understand why.
I gather you didn't like what she said and you were offended. You don't have to respond in kind.
