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Have you ever had problems changing in clothes stores?

Started by ninjaboi, July 15, 2011, 02:41:15 PM

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JungianZoe

Quote from: El on July 30, 2011, 04:38:27 AM
Ive never had a problem with staff or customers in the changing rooms but im very tall and some stall doors are not, meaning i feel rather exposed sometimes!!!!!

Like in TJ Maxx...? :laugh:  I'm 5'11" and even I have to squat when I'm trying on shirts there.  I guess one way to keep clothing costs down is not budgeting for changing room doors that can accommodate women over 5'5".
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Wintery

I was just thinking about this today too. I haven't shopped for clothes in years, but I'm going to the mall with friends today. I guess I'll just see what happens.
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El

Quote from: Zoë Natasha on July 30, 2011, 06:42:14 AM
Like in TJ Maxx...? :laugh:  I'm 5'11" and even I have to squat when I'm trying on shirts there.  I guess one way to keep clothing costs down is not budgeting for changing room doors that can accommodate women over 5'5".

lol actually TK maxx (the european version of TJ Maxx) was the shop i had in mind when i wrote that XD
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nogoodnik

Not quite what's being discussed here, but... there's one young men's clothing chain here that I am wary about shopping in. When I was younger, I went in and went to try on a jumper and was told I wasn't allowed as the changing rooms were for men only. There was no separate female changing rooms — in fact, unisex changing rooms are the norm here.

I wasn't trying to pass at all, so I didn't say "But I am a man!" or anything. I live in a different city now, so perhaps I'd have more luck these days and/or it isn't a nationwide policy. Even so, it puts me off shopping there! All the staff were women, and they were allowed in the changing rooms, so why only male customers? I know it's a men's clothing shop, but they sell some fairly unisex clothing...  ??? I don't see why it was such a big deal.
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Annah

Quote from: Silas on July 28, 2011, 10:41:58 PM
Story:

Today, my mom came with me into the JC Penney's men's dressing room because they were closing soon and I had to show her how these two shirts looked on me. Two employees saw her come in with me, and there's no real way to mistake my mom as male.

The only person who cared was the "alarm" above the door that goes off when you make any sudden movements near it.

I work at Jc Penneys and we really do not mind whoever uses what dressing rooms since all of our doors are full enclosure doors.

The only time we may have an issue is if someone is presented male and brings a lot of swimsuits or lingerie into the fitting room. I wont go into detail but we have busted quite a few people "doing things" with those type of clothing. It happens more often than not. Since February, security asked people to leave on 11 separate occasions because of ruining the clothing. So, this may be where some employers may have some hesitation with opposite gender presentation fitting rooms.

Other than that, we let anyone use whatever fitting rooms.

My personal opinion on the matter is this:  If you are presenting male (regardless of your gender identification) then go to the men's fitting rooms. If you are presenting female (regardless of your gender identification) then go to the women's fitting room. i use the same logic for bathrooms and I haven't run into any troubles whatsoever.
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GinaDouglas

I am hesitant to ask, but morbid curiousity overwhelms me.

How do you catch the ones who ruin clothes?
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tekla

However they do it, it has a high 'ewwww' factor.  Let it be.
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Diane Elizabeth

  As for fitting rooms so far no problem.  AT work it is a different story.  I was told when I come out MTF that I would still have to dress with the boys and could not use the female locker room or restroom.  I am working on trying to change this.
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GinaDouglas

I'm thinking the only way would be to go into the next fitting room and listen.

And really, it's a serious sex crime.  They let them walk?  Until they start doing it in places even more public, or a little kid walks in on it?  Hmmmm.
It's easier to change your sex and gender in Iran, than it is in the United States.  Way easier.

Please read my novel, Dragonfly and the Pack of Three, available on Amazon - and encourage your local library to buy it too! We need realistic portrayals of trans people in literature, for all our sakes
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regan

Quote from: GinaDouglas on August 02, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
I'm thinking the only way would be to go into the next fitting room and listen.

And really, it's a serious sex crime.  They let them walk?  Until they start doing it in places even more public, or a little kid walks in on it?  Hmmmm.

As far as I can recall, its only a crime if you have a reasonable expectation that someone would actually see you doing anything.  On the other hand, JC Penney has the right to remove anyone from their property at any time, for any reason.  I'm not even sure how "a little kid" would "walk in on 'it'", but there again is the "accidental" exclusion.

Icky?  Yes.  Sex Crime?  That's stretching it a bit...
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Annah

Quote from: GinaDouglas on August 02, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
I'm thinking the only way would be to go into the next fitting room and listen.

And really, it's a serious sex crime.  They let them walk?  Until they start doing it in places even more public, or a little kid walks in on it?  Hmmmm.

We have security escort them to the doors of the store. From what I understand, they are force to pay for the clothes they ruin or they may face charges. But when it comes to sex or anything else sexual in the fitting rooms, the store does not usually press charges because are doors are full private doors with locks. We have not had one child walk in on something like that. It is usually reported because the "noise" some of the people make.
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Starriver19

I hope I do not have a problem. I am going shopping for female clothes for the first time this month. I forsee one problem I will be going presenting as a man since I have no nice clothes to wear there.
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latingrl

I never had a problem in a store, but I have a friend who went into a Macys and wanted to try on a dress, she was told by the clerk they wouldn't let her, she asked to talk to a supervisor and she was told it was company policy not to let men into the womens changing room.
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Annah

usually Macys has a better track policy for fitting rooms (except the peeping tom thing).....but like I always tell transgender people....if you wanna try on clothes you may want to go into the store with that gender presentation that matches the gender of clothing you want try on. Same with Bathrooms.
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regan

I would think the last thing they want to do is piss off a paying customer.  Spend enough money and they'll let you do just about anything in the store you want (with in reason).  As for the risk of offending a cisgendered woman, it's not worth it.  If you're "borderline" they're going to err on the side of caution.  As long as you hold your head up and don't act suspicious (and yes nervous counts), I can't imagine they'd risk losing your hard earned money - especially given the economy.
Our biograhies are our own and we need to accept our own diversity without being ashamed that we're somehow not trans enough.
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Silas

Quote from: Annah on August 02, 2011, 03:35:57 AM
The only time we may have an issue is if someone is presented male and brings a lot of swimsuits or lingerie into the fitting room. I wont go into detail but we have busted quite a few people "doing things" with those type of clothing. It happens more often than not. Since February, security asked people to leave on 11 separate occasions because of ruining the clothing. So, this may be where some employers may have some hesitation with opposite gender presentation fitting rooms.

Ew, people use the clothes IN THE STORE?! D8 And then try to leave?! WTFFFF. I think there's laws against that? I have no idea. Ick.

Little-little kids I've always seen go in with parents and such. And since it's full-enclosure I can't see how they'd "see" anything, unless someone's making too many noises, or they just left the ruined clothes around. Even then, I can't see them knowing what it is. Still squicky, though.
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akitokitoast

Well, I went to Matalan today to get some new trousers and a shirt...

I was kinda nervous but I just walked up to the men's changing, the attendant lady was just all 'here's your number!' and I tried the clothes on and stuff in there. I was kind of paranoid mabout someone seeing my binder through the gap between the curtain and the wall, but lets be honest, who's gonna intentionally look?

I went in there three times to try on various things and had no problem whatsoever - no weird looks or comments or anything! It felt good.

First time in men's changing room = good

So next on the agenda is mustering the courage to use the men's bathroom...right now I just kinda hold.
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Lee

I was directed to the men's fitting room yesterday.  Just thought I'd share the joy.  :)
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Annah

Quote from: Lee on August 12, 2011, 05:17:12 PM
I was directed to the men's fitting room yesterday.  Just thought I'd share the joy.  :)

YAY!!!
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JungianZoe

Quote from: Lee on August 12, 2011, 05:17:12 PM
I was directed to the men's fitting room yesterday.  Just thought I'd share the joy.  :)

That's awesome!! ;D
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