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Started by Sevan, July 18, 2011, 12:00:21 AM

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Taka

Quote from: ZaidaZadkiel on July 20, 2011, 05:45:32 PM
"Be strict in what you send and tolerant in what you receive."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_Principle

There, I looked the quote.

And I don't know what mil secrets have to do with anything, but it was made by DARPA and uni friends to send data back and forth.
when i read "conservative" i finally understood what was meant

and i didin't really say "military secrets", but i thought that if it's a military invention, there should have been a purpose of also sharing sensitive information, what other data would darpa want to send back and forth?
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ZaidaZadkiel

scientific data originally.
And pictures of cats.
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sunny-side

*eyes icanhascheezburger* ...then we haven't moved very far, lol.

That quote does seem to hold some water, though, as far as the way that people do seem to react over the internet.
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Taka

funny how a quote that was originally meant for code sent between computer can also be applied to words sent between humans
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V M

Even more hilarious is how derailed a thread can get  :laugh:
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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ativan

I wish to be seen as the cute kid on the left, who has a cute friend on the right, in your avatar picture.
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Julian

I want to be seen as cute, clever, pretty, and strong.

In a perfect world, I'd be seen as something other than a girl or boy. I'm sure I'm seen right now as a weird somewhat butch girl with a buzzcut, but that's inaccurate. I love being mistaken for a boy, because it means that someone sees something in me that isn't just a girl.

I'll settle for just causing confusion in regards to my gender. It's okay; it confuses me too sometimes.
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ativan

Quote from: ZaidaZadkiel on July 20, 2011, 06:17:21 PM
scientific data originally.
And pictures of cats.
Originally it was just the Dept of Defence, it was slowly spread out to Uni's and colleges, but highly restricted to DOD projects.
I used to use the internet before the WWW was released. I don't recall any cats, but that doesn't mean that the DOD wasn't trying to make killing machines out of them.
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Wintery

I either want to confuse the heck out of people or be seen as male. Either one works for me.
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ativan

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V M

In my bikini with a bottom rap sarong, strolling about a beach town
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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foosnark

This week I am at, probably for the last time, the big annual gathering of my temple.  I've been going for 14 years. Many of the folks there know I'm identifying as androgyne now.  One said today that I was pretty, and another settled for groovy, and a couple people just said I was looking good.  I'll take any of those, especially because I really just feel tired and stressed.
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Raige

I wish that people wouldn't try to stick a label on me, and judge me simply by who I am, rather than what they think I should be. I don't want my gender (or even sexuality) to have to do with anything.
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Pica Pica

Quote from: Raige on August 02, 2011, 09:34:01 PM
I wish that people wouldn't try to stick a label on me, and judge me simply by who I am.

But how are they going to begin to comprehend, assimilate and understand who you are without tentatively placing you in various categories, groups and subgroups?
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Raige

They could observe without expectations rather than make assumptions or categorizations.
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Pica Pica

Quote from: Raige on August 03, 2011, 03:38:15 PM
They could observe without expectations rather than make assumptions or categorizations.

To do that is to become constantly confused, lost and frightened of the world. Do you observe every individual person freshly or do you see the guy in the suit and think "he'll grab a seat on the train and put his briefcase on the other one"? I'm sure you don't imagine every old lady (for example) to be a potential mugger, millionaire philanthropist or what-have-ye.

The fact remains that it's a normal and healthy human function to assume and categorise, to use that information to make predictions - I know that the red man is shining - so I should not cross the road because I'll get run over. You don't have to learn that at every individual crossing you come to.

As it is impossible not to assume and categorise, what is really wanted is that people are ready and free to change and modify our categorisations - and to be honest people will only do that if they get to know you (until they become your friend and then you are just 'Raige' and so a category all of your own) but to expect strangers to put all this mental investment in you when they may never see you again - is unfair and unlikely.

Now, I'd also like it if gender was not one of the first categorisations that people make, or at the very least that there was enough awareness of the bendiness of those categorisations, that it's not so clean cut as either/or but while it is commonly supposed to be as easy as either/or, it'll be one of the first assumptions and generalisations made. Ever played Guess Who? The smart player always asks the gender first - it's easy, and people will always do what is easy.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Raige

Good point. I wasn't saying it isn't a common occurrence or understandable to categorize, but I try not to have expectations, myself. I want people to try, is all. Mostly because the expectations or assumptions that people have made is very very off concerning me. I have talked to people who at first had assumed things that couldn't be farther from the truth because they have thought I was like other people they had met.
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V M

 Mostly because the expectations or assumptions that people have made is very very off concerning me. I have talked to people who at first had assumed things that couldn't be farther from the truth because they have thought I was like other people they had met.

This, this is the kind of thing that drives me bats... "Well so and so blah blah blah" ... I'm not so and so  :P
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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sunny-side

Quote from: V M on August 03, 2011, 05:36:15 PM
Mostly because the expectations or assumptions that people have made is very very off concerning me. I have talked to people who at first had assumed things that couldn't be farther from the truth because they have thought I was like other people they had met.

This, this is the kind of thing that drives me bats... "Well so and so blah blah blah" ... I'm not so and so  :P

Oh, yeah, I hate that too ><;

My ex was especially terrible at that.  He'd sometimes compare me to his ex-girlfriends ("so and so liked this/that/the other") or just women in general.  I always wondered where he was getting the ideas in his head about women in general, but he kept doing things because "women like this sort of thing."  ..I hate that.
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noeleena

Hi,

How do i wish to be seen ,

Ill change that word to accept or accepted ,

Im accepted first as a person . & then as a woman of difference, & that says no matter how im seen or dressed   make's  little difference because i'm known & knowable. or i allow others in to my life,

So to be seen is  to be accepted , not for what you are not  , for who you are.

...noeleena...
Hi. from New Zealand, Im a woman of difference & intersex who is living life to the full.   we have 3 grown up kids and 11 grand kid's 6 boy's & 5 girl's,
Jos and i are still friends and  is very happy with her new life with someone.
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