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Started by Natkat, July 21, 2011, 09:03:23 AM

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Natkat

I just had this very strange problem/worry I had for a time :-\.

I do identify male, even thought im femenine and very gender fluent in my belifs,
but once in a while while speaking to myself in my inner voice I almost hit by calling myself in a female pronoucing. somethimes it dosent matter because im gay and can use this kind of words like,
"you go girl" for guys.. XD or "hes such a queen" you know.. but other times I can feel almost about to say "she", where I wanted to say "he". a friend told me not to worry, about it cause as long as I know who I am it dosent matter how ->-bleeped-<-ed up my brain is but it really annoyes me.

I always kinda freak out.. and wonder why I do so and if it mean im not trans because I do it?

but in generaly my pronoucing always seam channing, from if im with famely or with friends.
with friends it male, but with famelys I must live with female pronoucing and try avoiding pronoucing myself not to get in trouble.

if I think of people refering me in the head I think them as refering me as they normally would do,
meaining of it my parrents they would refern me she and if it friends they would refern me he..
I feel it would be unrealistic to thinking my famely as refering me diffrent as I know they would.


is it just me or have it happent to any other people?

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Taka

try writing "pronouns" in the title, makes it easier to understand what this is about...

i can't really say any much about it. when i think about myself i use female pronouns, even though i'm not really a woman. maybe it is because i'm not that much of a man either, but i think it' really only because i was raised with female pronouns, learned to use female pronouns about myself, and now it's just stuck as a hard-to-break habit
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Darrin Scott

Quote from: Taka on July 21, 2011, 09:49:20 AM
try writing "pronouns" in the title, makes it easier to understand what this is about...

i can't really say any much about it. when i think about myself i use female pronouns, even though i'm not really a woman. maybe it is because i'm not that much of a man either, but i think it' really only because i was raised with female pronouns, learned to use female pronouns about myself, and now it's just stuck as a hard-to-break habit

This.

It's hard for me to even go by a male name because female is so hard-wired into my brain. I think it takes some time to get used to it.





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Natkat

i'm happy so far from the answers, where scared of getting some macho-comments about I couldn't posible be FTM if I where having these wierd thoughts ::).
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I think it kinda like that, im very used to female pronoucing since birth, and Im also used to not using male pronoucing unless I where in a situation I felt safe.
(wich really been anoying to see when can I use ot and when cant I do)

Darrin; I remember it also took me a time to get use to my name, however I moved school at the time I chanced my name and I felt it made a big diffrent that I where surounded by 100 people who just called me by the name without wondering, and that I wouldnt need to correct them..

now I got so used to my name that I turn around if somone call me by that, but the first few days at school a girl had my old name, and I where nervous that I would react when people called her..

Taka; hmm it also a bit difficult to have gender neutral pronoucing, I know I always get confussed by my gender-queer friends because I dont know if I should pronouc them male or female or both?
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Taka

i don't care that much about pronouns, what i can't stand is being called gender specific words that i don't identify with at the time. easiest thing is to ask them what they want to be called. in norway we seem to have made up the gender neutral "hin" to use instead of han or hun, and i'll use it for those who ask me to
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Natkat

Quote from: Taka on July 21, 2011, 12:04:29 PM
i don't care that much about pronouns, what i can't stand is being called gender specific words that i don't identify with at the time. easiest thing is to ask them what they want to be called. in norway we seem to have made up the gender neutral "hin" to use instead of han or hun, and i'll use it for those who ask me to

hmm is that like "hen?" I heard that word, but it never used here, 
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Ryno

Gendered pronouns really have nothing to do in a biological sense with what's between your legs. They are a social construct to easily distinguish between male and female when communicating. The fact that you think the word "her" instead of "him" means you're just used to referring to yourself that way. It's the same as when you first change your name from your birth name to your chosen male name - it takes time to rearrange your brain and get used to the new identifier.

Don't worry, no one here will ever - or should't ever - tell you that you're not really transgender. Many of us go through questioning periods or wonder if something is "normal" or not during transition, because it's a completely unfamiliar experience and there's no text-book rules for transitioning. We're all different and there's going to be some confusion, doubt, and questioning. Only you can decide if "transgender" is the right label for you, if you even decide to label yourself. The same goes for transitioning, only you can choose whether or not it's for you and how far you need to go. We can be here to reaffirm your doubts, give you advice, share our own experiences, help you with technicalities like Gear, changing your name legally, things like that.
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Natkat

thanks im very pleased,

I guess since im not full time pronouced male, I still havent got all use to it, so when people call me "he"
unless it my friends it make me really happy.. of corse im happy for that but I want to be able to be called he in general without really thinking its my lucky day, but that im just having this as general base.

I think it will take time, both to get out to people with the right pronoucing and to getting use to it.
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Taka

Quote from: Natkat on July 21, 2011, 01:06:41 PM
hmm is that like "hen?" I heard that word, but it never used here, 
that's also a variant. i wouldn't wanna use any gender neutral pronouns, they sound constructed. i'm fine as long as i speak sami, we don't have any grammatical gender in that language. "sån" goes for anything human, man or woman, or in between
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Silas

I don't have much problem with pronouns, but I have reacted to my given name... very embarrassing. @_@; And I worry people will take me less seriously. >_>
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malinkibear

Don't worry about it, I don't care what pronouns people use with me - hence I've not really asked them to only use male terms yet. Maybe I will. I also call myself 'she' sometimes, usually by accident. No biggy, remember ->-bleeped-<- is a very personal thing, and there isn't a list of rules you have to follow.
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N.Chaos

Quote from: Darrin on July 21, 2011, 11:37:24 AM
This.

It's hard for me to even go by a male name because female is so hard-wired into my brain. I think it takes some time to get used to it.

This is actually kind of weird to me, because I've always had such a hard time calling myself a girl. It's...bizzare to me, because most of the people I've talked to (or read about) on here, had at least a little awkwardness in shifting pronouns. Not me. Hell, when my family calls me a girl, half the time I (sincerely) have no idea who they're talking about and ignore it entirely. I could never say "When I was a little girl". It was always "When I was a kid", stuff like that.
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Silas

Quote from: N.Chaos on July 24, 2011, 05:50:12 PM
This is actually kind of weird to me, because I've always had such a hard time calling myself a girl. It's...bizzare to me, because most of the people I've talked to (or read about) on here, had at least a little awkwardness in shifting pronouns. Not me. Hell, when my family calls me a girl, half the time I (sincerely) have no idea who they're talking about and ignore it entirely. I could never say "When I was a little girl". It was always "When I was a kid", stuff like that.

Holy crap, this. It confuses me so much when my relatives do this.
I also use "when I was a kid", or "when I was little". I didn't really associate myself with gender as a child, so it works for me.
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RyGuy

Quote from: Silas on July 25, 2011, 10:04:54 PM
Holy crap, this. It confuses me so much when my relatives do this.
I also use "when I was a kid", or "when I was little". I didn't really associate myself with gender as a child, so it works for me.

this. even when i referred to myself (to others) as a female-bodied person who was attracted to females, i could never use the term lesbian. i always said i was gay. go figure, i was a lot more comfortable with a term that implied i was attracted to males rather than be labelled as a female. (i know that gay is often all-encompassing of gender, etc. it was just a personal thing)
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N.Chaos

Quote from: Silas on July 25, 2011, 10:04:54 PM
Holy crap, this. It confuses me so much when my relatives do this.
I also use "when I was a kid", or "when I was little". I didn't really associate myself with gender as a child, so it works for me.

Sweet, I ain't alone!
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Natkat

Quote from: Taka on July 22, 2011, 05:08:31 AM
that's also a variant. i wouldn't wanna use any gender neutral pronouns, they sound constructed. i'm fine as long as i speak sami, we don't have any grammatical gender in that language. "sån" goes for anything human, man or woman, or in between
cool..
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for me it chance depending on what im refering myself of, myself, my body, social and so on,

ex
I can say "when I where a girl" refering to when I lived as a girl,
but if I dont refern to that point but just simple being a kid I would say "when I where a kid/lad/child/little boy"
if it makes sense..

well I still feel it strange saying I where a girl? to be hoenst I didnt knew what kind of gender I where as a kid since I hardly remember my childhood, but I lived as a girl and where seen that way untill I hit puberty and people started to expect me to chance...
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Darrin Scott

Quote from: N.Chaos on July 24, 2011, 05:50:12 PM
This is actually kind of weird to me, because I've always had such a hard time calling myself a girl. It's...bizzare to me, because most of the people I've talked to (or read about) on here, had at least a little awkwardness in shifting pronouns. Not me. Hell, when my family calls me a girl, half the time I (sincerely) have no idea who they're talking about and ignore it entirely. I could never say "When I was a little girl". It was always "When I was a kid", stuff like that.

*shrugs* I guess everyone is different. Although, my entire story is much different than most people here so it doesn't surprise me.





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Mr.Rainey

Sometimes I can deal with she sometimes it makes me mad as all hell. I probly should not get so pissed off about it but sometimes I get sick of hearing she and female pronouns every other sentance. It really only when people I am not out to do it because if its someone I will never see again or one of my friends I can get them to stop.

I sometimes feel so happy when I get called he I want to grin like an idiot.
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Natkat

Quote from: Mr.Rainey on July 26, 2011, 04:13:46 PM
Sometimes I can deal with she sometimes it makes me mad as all hell. I probly should not get so pissed off about it but sometimes I get sick of hearing she and female pronouns every other sentance. It really only when people I am not out to do it because if its someone I will never see again or one of my friends I can get them to stop.

I sometimes feel so happy when I get called he I want to grin like an idiot.

same here,
I also get annoyed by called "she" specially by people knowing me but also
by strangers.. and I feel akward by correcting them, even if I got the nuts to do they will keep on annoying me by saying "oh but you look so femenine" refering to my face or hair, (its rarely refering to clothes)
so im like, most guys would be totally angry by such a coment, but because I am pretty androgyne and friendly I dont hit them.
there so lucky <3
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