Pornography

[RebeccaFog]

I'm okay.  I passed through some depressions and anxiety ridden phases, but lived.  I got a part time job that keeps my roof where it belongs and prevents my plates from being bare.

How are you?

[Pica Pica]

I'm okay.  I passed through some depressions and anxiety ridden phases, but lived.  I got a part time job that keeps my roof where it belongs and prevents my plates from being bare.

How are you?

Pretty same, still in the school, becoming a grizzled pillar of my community - just turned twenty six so officially old now. Reading a bit more, writing a bit less and becoming worryingly keen on some opera - eesh.

[JulieC.]

I think violent people are drawn to violent porn.  I don't think "normal" people can be changed by watching actors on TV.  Yes I definitely agree the internet has made it easier to feel normal if you have a fetish since you now know a lot of people share it with you.  I won't go into the things I like to do in bed but let's say not everyone I've had relationships with shared them too.  If they did then great and if they didn't I would drop it.  I have respect for the women and men I have been with.  If you respect your partner then you would never put them in a place they were uncomfortable.  Sex is about mutual enjoyment.  I could never be controlling or violent to another person.  People that are violent and controlling are that way in or out of the bedroom.  I don't think porn has anything to do with that.  I think pedophiles are sick people.  How they become this way I don't know but again I can't believe it is from looking at porn.  That kind of pron is hard to find.  you have to be looking for it.

[N.Chaos]

I don't think there's anything wrong with porn, unless it's CP, beastiality, or anything else that's obviously (and rightfully) illegal.
I'm going to go out on a limb and probably piss everyone off, but I don't think porn "degrades women".
The women that get into that industry, and get somewhere with it, make MASSIVE amounts of money. If they don't want to screw for money, then don't get into the porn industry. End of story.

The people that think porn is life real life? They probably deserve the loneliness and rejection they get. People that act out violence and rape from porn/movies/games? They're probably screwed up in the first place. It feels like this argument has been going on forever. Games don't make killers. Movies don't make killers. Porn doesn't make rapists.

Stupidity, detachment, and being pushed too far makes a killer. Trauma, mental illness, and sadism makes a rapist. Watching a pair of silicone implants is not going to turn Average Joe, the decent guy, into a alley-stalking rape monger.

Unless I'm completely wrong, which is absolutely possible, and in that case we're all ->-bleeped-<-ed.

People seem to forget that "wrong" and "evil", for the most part, are entirely subjective. What one person thinks is acceptable might disgust me, and what I enjoy might horrify someone else. But then again, I think that as long as it's not real, people should be able to watch whatever the hell they want. It might make me cringe, it might piss me off more than anything, but unless they're ACTING on it, I don't care. I'm not into thought police.

[RebeccaFog]

Pretty same, still in the school, becoming a grizzled pillar of my community - just turned twenty six so officially old now. Reading a bit more, writing a bit less and becoming worryingly keen on some opera - eesh.

I began writing less in the twenties.  If you have a good backlog of material behind you, it'll be perfect for rewrites as the years pass.  All I had were some stupid poems.

[RebeccaFog]

Sex is about mutual enjoyment.

I don't feel good for saying this, but sex is for procreation. Reproduction is a genetic calling. Some people have it more than others, but despite what is in a person's conscious mind, the drive is to reproduce. Nearly all of the "aberrant" sexual behavior/exploration of males is because they are driven to seek stimulation.

I don't mean that sex is for procreation in a moral sense, but in the naturalistic sense of animal existence. We are animals with big giant brains that are so entirely complicated that we forget we are animals.

I've been reading articles that explain that men are behind the search for 'giant penis' on the internet. The thought is that other primates show dominance or other signalling by showing their genitals. People are doing as their genetic code tells them to do. If I find the article, I'll post it.

[Taka]

I think pedophiles are sick people.  How they become this way I don't know but again I can't believe it is from looking at porn.

just wanted to say that i object to the thought that all pedophiles are sick people
i know pedophilia is considered a mental disorder, but still...

being sexually attracted to someone doesn't mean one would rape that person
and rape has nothing to do with sexual attraction

some people find themselves being sexually attracted to kids, many of them (i know of at least 3) would never want to do anything that might hurt a child
other people rape kids for the sense of control without really being pedophiles (i unfortunately know a few of this type too)

i think child abusers and other rapists are sick. i also think people who make, spread and watch cp for their own enjoyment or purse are sick
but i don't think people with paraphilia are, unless this makes them violate other people's rights


and just to stay on topic, i don't think porn can make people into rapists. either they have it in them or they don't, and those who have it in them don't necessarily have to watch porn for inspiration to commit atrocious acts upon other people

[sunny-side]

Thanks for reminding me Tekla!

Pronography is immoral (this means wrong), should be illegal (I stand corrected),  is fattening,  and it is only enjoyed by those with an under developed mind (AKA feelbe mind)

You are wrong.  Because I say so.

[Pica Pica]

I am right, because I say so,

[sunny-side]

I am right, because I say so,

I full-heartedly agree with you there, Pica, lol XD

But no, seriously, it contributes so little to discussion to just sit there and say "you are wrong!" ...it was getting to me a bit so I went for humor.

[Pica Pica]

Actually I think there is a right and wrong, and a moral compass that leads to those answers, but that compass has it's reasons. Something is wrong because it negatively affects those beyond the individual for example.

[sunny-side]

Actually I think there is a right and wrong, and a moral compass that leads to those answers, but that compass has it's reasons. Something is wrong because it negatively affects those beyond the individual for example.

I think that most things are both right and wrong depending on the circumstances.  That wasn't my main problem with it.  She doesn't even try to explain why she thinks it is wrong, and then she goes on to insult people who use it... even though there have been a few in this thread already who have expressed that they use it.  There is no better way to alienate people who need help, if you think they need help, than to insult them on a personal level.  But really... just stating something is wrong and not explaining the why behind it won't convince anyone that it is wrong and contributes nothing to discussion.  I ignored her the first time because honestly I just read her statements and take her for a troll.  I'm just hoping that she isn't a troll and that this says something to her... I don't know.  *sigh*

[cynthialee]

Kate;
That was a underhanded insult to me and a number of other posters here who have admited they like and view porn.

Please remove that insult. I am not going to smite you but you kinda deserve it.
I mean seriously....feeble mind?

[Wolfsnake]

I don't feel good for saying this, but sex is for procreation. Reproduction is a genetic calling. Some people have it more than others, but despite what is in a person's conscious mind, the drive is to reproduce. Nearly all of the "aberrant" sexual behavior/exploration of males is because they are driven to seek stimulation.

I don't mean that sex is for procreation in a moral sense, but in the naturalistic sense of animal existence. We are animals with big giant brains that are so entirely complicated that we forget we are animals.

I've been reading articles that explain that men are behind the search for 'giant penis' on the internet. The thought is that other primates show dominance or other signalling by showing their genitals. People are doing as their genetic code tells them to do. If I find the article, I'll post it.

Um, no. Speaking as someone who studied animal biology at the college level, sex is not merely procreative. It also, especially in social creatures, forms bonds, resolves conflicts, and establishes hierarchy. Please read up on the subject before stating an opinion as fact.

I could also comment on the inaccuracy and pseudoscience in the rest of your post, but I just do not have the time or inclination.

[kate durcal]

Kate;
That was a underhanded insult to me and a number of other posters here who have admited they like and view porn.

Please remove that insult. I am not going to smite you but you kinda deserve it.
I mean seriously....feeble mind?

PLease smite me migter smiter!   

Looking at pronography is like the starving dude looking through the window at people eating at a restuarant; and paying for the privilage to do so, wow! so smart...

[tekla]

paying for the privilage to do so

Wow, you pay for porn?  That's so last century.  No wonder you're mad. 

[kate durcal]

paying for the privilage to do so

Wow, you pay for porn?  That's so last century.  No wonder you're mad.

LOL, you are bad to te bone. Luv U Kate D

[kate durcal]

fee·ble-mind·ed (fbl-mndd)
adj.
1. Deficient in intelligence.
2. Exhibiting a marked lack of intelligent consideration and forethought:

[Lee]

Looking at pronography is like the starving dude looking through the window at people eating at a restuarant; and paying for the privilage to do so, wow! so smart...

I cannot currently enjoy sex as I am, so I enjoy the fact that other people are enjoying it. 

Em-pa-thy
The intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.

This debate is starting to become rather petty.  I love hearing why people believe the things they do, but attacking rather than explaining is a poor way to convince people.

[V M]

I'm not much into porn, but it doesn't really bother me much either    I'm one of those artsy fartsy types that views the human body as a beautiful work of art and often find someones rendition of what's "Hot" rather amusing    I appreciate a beautiful body, but I'm not likely to get all hot and bothered or turned on by it

If and when I find that special someone that I wish to be intimate with, they and I will fully investigate what hot and bothered truly means