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Gender identity less of an issue after transition?

Started by Nero, July 26, 2011, 09:32:33 AM

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AbraCadabra

Kiera,
mind boggling, BEAUTIFUL, I'm rattled, OMG!

It is SO emotional, am all bussed up...

Thank you for sharing this,
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Cindy

Interesting thread, I distinctly remember my worse GID day. I was in  large store, something like JC Pennys to you USA gals and boys, a place called DJ's in Oz. I almost fell to the floor in tears. I could not accept that the other woman in the store could wear skirts and blouse and look nice and feel nice  and I was wrought with anguish and despair, how could I accept this horror.

Today I was in the same shopping mall, having my eye brows shaped (again) totally relaxed, girl talk with the beautician, chatting about clothes and styles and stuff.  I saw this thread and thought, yes , it does get better.

I am so much happier. I totally don't worry about people looking at me. I'm very happy being Cindy, OK I still have a journey to complete, but I'm well on the way

And you people have been at the core of allowing me to do that.

Cindy
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Chloe

Some END of Thread Food for Thought

Quote from: Cindy James on July 31, 2011, 02:53:17 AMI could not accept that the other woman in the store could wear skirts and blouse and look nice and feel nice  and I was wrought with anguish and despair, how could I accept this horror . .  I saw this thread and thought, yes , it does get better.
Point, from where I am at least, is you hardly ever see "women in skirts" anymore as the "traditional" distinctions between what constitutes "male" and "female", along with the antiquated social / religious systems on which they are based, are quickly going by the wayside never to be heard from again(?)
Quote from: Creation Vs. EvolutionEvolutionary theory continues to be plagued by persistent problems that defy solution via rational thought. This is true whether one examines the origin of the Universe—or the origin of life. But nowhere is the glaring inadequacy of evolutionary theory more evident than in its feeble and failed attempts to explain the origin of sex. The pervasive presence of the male and female sexes (whether in plants, animals, or humans), and the ubiquitous nature of sexual reproduction based on differences in gender, deftly defy any naturalistic explanation.
Quote from: PostgenderismAdvocates of postgenderism argue that the presence of gender roles, social stratification, and cogno-physical disparities and differences are generally to the detriment of individuals and society.
"Act Like A Lady But Think Like A Man"? Sounds GREAT in natural theory but the reverse corollary, in practice, seems to have had nothing but socially disastrous results! ( thinking of this thread HERE, to be totally free of any concepts of "gender" is the greatest thing one can do! )
"But it's no use now," thought poor Alice, "to pretend be two people!
"Why, there's hardly enough of me left to make one respectable person!"
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Cindy

Quote from: Kiera on July 31, 2011, 06:31:33 AM
Some END of Thread Food for Thought
Point, from where I am at least, is you hardly ever see "women in skirts" anymore as the "traditional" distinctions between what constitutes "male" and "female", along with the antiquated social / religious systems on which they are based, are quickly going by the wayside never to be heard from again(?) 


You had no time line.
What is now is now. What is the past is the past.

I also think your distinction is naive for western society, and totally incorrect for females in world wide society. Try being female and wearing jeans in many middle eastern countries.
the antiquated social / religious system that is so quickly disappearing will have you thrashed. Literally.
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Sarah B

I remember quite clearly when I was around 4 or 5, that 'I wanted to be a girl' and once in a blue moon up and till around the age of 19, I would have these same thoughts.  When I was around the age of 19 and after I got back from boarding school that I started to realise my thoughts on the matter really started to pick up.

From the age of 19 to 29, I was constantly thinking about 'wanting to be female" and these thoughts were getting stronger and stronger as the years went by.  In addition I was doing more and more things that were female oriented and when I did those female oriented things I was contented, it felt right and I would be very happy.  It was not until I was 29 that I finally realised that I was a female.  I honestly don't know what would have happened to me if things continued as they were.

After finding out that I was a female when I was 29.  I never thought about 'wanting to be a female' ever again, or to the extent did I think I was a female either.  I  don't really know why that is and it's only now in recent times that I have thought about these matters and it's only because I'm involved in the community to a certain extent.  Was it the lack of information?  Was it, because I was being myself at the time? or was it, that I did everything for myself?  I know that I never associated with the community at the time so I did not get "what the current thinking was on this situation was'.

The only real reason I can think of as to why I never thought about, 'I want to be a female or I am a female' ever again was because, I was just living my life and those around me, just saw me as a female.  So in a sense, if you want to consider my constant thinking that "I want to be a female" as dysphoric then that's fine.   Then in my case my dysphoric condition was instantaneously gone, the day I finally realised that I was female.  The only time I ever consider the gender issue know is when I have to fill in forms or where gender is discussed in normal conversations.

Just to illustrate what I mean, this morning I went swimming as usual and after I decided to go and check my mail at the post office.  As I was pulling up along side the kerb side I saw a gentlemen go into the mail box area.  I got out of my car and went and opened the door that led to my mail box.  The gentleman that I saw go in just a minute ago, was on his way out.  By this stage I had opened the door.  I held the door open as the most practical thing to do, he hesitated to allow me to go in first, but like me decided that it was best that he leave first as he went past me he said, "I would have have said you were a gentleman, but obviously you're not" and with that said, we both cracked up laughing and we both went on our way.

Forum Admin, there is nothing you said that requires you to apologise.  I would assume that the majority of the community, would consider this question "I wonder if this is part of what cispeople feel?".  I know I have on occasion over the last 23 years and my answer to this is Yes, because Forum Admin is right in a sense, my gender is of no consequence to me any more.

Warmest regards
Sarah B
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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Randi

I just hope that someone else who I depend on for answers to questions and interesting posts is not going to stop coming here. There have been many who I saw here two years ago that no longer come back to share and several who haven't been here as long have as much as told us the same thing here lately.

I can relate to the thought of not thinking of it as much but I am saddened by the thought that so many go away and no longer share what they know and are going thru with us.

Randi
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