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Started by kyril, August 04, 2011, 06:01:58 PM

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kyril

It's getting harder and harder to buy age-restricted stuff. Now, I do still have an uncorrected ID, with my old name and a big F. But that's not the problem. Apparently it is so utterly impossible to believe that I was born in 1982 that people carding me don't even notice the name/gender marker. They don't misgender me, they don't ask about the name...they just tell me they don't believe I'm 28. Quote from yesterday: "I don't believe it. I seriously just don't believe it. 1982? But it looks exactly like you."

What do I do? Correcting the ID is necessary, but it's apparently not going to help any.


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JungianZoe

I used to have that problem and what I would do is regale the clerk (if they were old enough) with some anecdote of pop culture that I clearly remembered.  For instance, telling them that my first record was Buckner and Garcia's "Pac Man Fever", which I received for my 5th birthday (that was 1982, by the way).  How our principal rushed into my 4th grade classroom to inform us that Challenger had exploded.  Or that I remember the fervor over who shot J.R. Ewing on the show Dallas.  How I used to watch The Love Boat at my babysitter's house, or how the next door neighbor's daughter drew the Duran Duran logo for me one night and I was thrilled.

Speaking of thrilled, that my first VHS tape (mom thankfully didn't buy beta) was the making of Michael Jackson's Thriller. ;D  Stuff like that!

Oh, and I was born on the very same day The Love Boat premiered.  Talk about disturbing.
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rexgsd

that stinks kyril. hopefully you can atleast get the name and gender corrected soon so you don't have to worry about that. but in the mean time, i guess there's not much you can do =(
i mean, i guess you could sort of reason with them, like saying nonchalantly "you can call the rmv if you want, it's my real birthdate, and a real i.d." like, not in a jerk way obviously, but like lightheartedly. i know what you mean though, sometimes no one can barely believe i'm old enough to buy cigarettes or w.e. -.- even when i show my i.d. lol
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Wil Najera

i had long girly hair in my first licence pic. i was 16 when i got it, so i used to get triple looked at sometimes they'd be like... this is you? and i'd be like yes. and even smile like i did in the pic. i convieniently lost my i.d. about two  months before turning 21. so i got to re-take my pic and got a new lisence about a week after my birthday. i had long hair but i put it up so it looks like i have a really short haircut in the pic. people never second guess it now. :) i havent gotten a new wardrobe yet so the gender issue hasnt been anything.
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apple pie

Ergh. Why are they checking IDs if they aren't going to believe what's on them...
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Annah

before i got my name legally changed, I had friends buy me alcohol and the like......kinda like being a teenager again lol.

It is very frustrating. Before my name change I was carded in Macaroni Grill for a beer. I showed them the id and it took my friends convincing them not to make a big deal about it as they had thought i was using someone else's ID.

At 37 I get carded all the time. Actually, it gets kinda irritating.
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KamTheMan

I'm 22 now and have had my 16 year old pic on my ID since. Long blonde hair past my chesticles. I fully stopped buying booze because of it. People should just check the date and ->-bleeped-<- off. Like Todd said, I get the triple look. ID to me to ID to me to ID to me then, "This isn't you." It's like, really? Who would fake something like that? I'm hopefully getting my new ID with a new pic in the mail in about a week, but it was before my most recent super short cut and I'm afraid I'll look like the biebs. Then again maybe it'll make me look younger in the pic and I can be like, yea, that was when I was 16, haha.


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kyril

Yeah, my picture is fine, it's very recent and looks exactly like me. There's no question it's me. They just think it must be fake because I could not possibly be 28. They're not even noticing that I'm supposed to be a girl.


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Ann Onymous

Quote from: Zoë Natasha on August 04, 2011, 07:14:39 PM
Oh, and I was born on the very same day The Love Boat premiered.  Talk about disturbing.

damned kids...


ANd to think my 'regale them with stories of youth' story is that my first concert was the Doobie Brothers 'Minute by Minute' tour in something like '78...and yes, the crowd DID live up to the band's name.
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KamTheMan

that's hilarious that they're not noticing the name and gender. i don't know how to help, bro :/ it's just gonna be one of the perils of having a young face. maybe try to make yourself look older than your picture? then again, how does one make themselves look older?


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Ann Onymous

Quote from: Annah on August 04, 2011, 07:56:49 PM
At 37 I get carded all the time. Actually, it gets kinda irritating.

LOL...I still get carded from time to time in my mid-40's...but yeah, it IS irritating.  What part of the gray hair did they NOT notice when I got to the counter???
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Dominick_81

I'm sorry your having a hard time. I think that your just getting jerks at the places you go to. I mean, I don't even look one bit close to my age and I haven't had a problem (*knocks on wood*). I only had one problem years and years ago with some guy who wasn't gunna let me into the casino b/c  of alcohol and gambling. He almost wasn't gunna let me in, and then after showing him more proof, like a credit card, he finally let me in. He even gave my cousin a hard time too.

If you can grow facial hair, that might make you look older.
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RyGuy

kyril this same thing happened to me until i got my id changed (thought mine was a female picture). i had one skeezy gas station employee who started to fetish me actually after he saw my id a couple times. "why you cut hair? you so much hotter as girl. but i like... *wink*" ugh. I realize that I wasn't much help but it happens to most of us.

if you're comfortable doing so, and you get an ass of an employee, you could just make them really uncomfortable and go into a trans rant. most likely they'll just let you go... I did that once. the cashier yelled at me for using "my sisters id" and I was like "actually it's my id, see, do you know what transsexual people are? i am trans, and I was assigned female at birth. just recently I assumed my true gender identity and began presenting as male, but because I have female genes, I don't have facial hair or a deep voice...." the faster you talk the faster they try to get you to go away I think hahaha
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nogoodnik

I'm not looking forward to this. I'm 26 and I suspect I'll have some similar problems.

I'm not even actively trying to pass yet and I already get turned down a lot for the most ridiculous reasons. I think the stupidest were "The person in this photo is fatter than you" — wow, no way, really? It's called weight loss. "I don't know, this photo looks younger than you. It says you're 26 but this person looks younger than you." That'll be because the card was issued in what we call 'the past', have you heard of it?  ::)

Not sure why but I've found women accept my ID more than men, so if (like in my local liquor store) there are several counters, I try and get served by a woman.
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Darth_Taco

I get the same thing XP. I cut my hair the week before the Deathly Hallows part 2 came out, and ever since then I keep getting "but you look so young!" Even my mom got all weirder out at how young I look when she first saw my hair cut :'P. I'm a little concerned my boyfriend seems to fetish me now xD. Oh well, as long as he's not going after actual young boys! D:<

Right now it's no big deal since I'm only 21 and I rarely buy alcohol. I don't know what's going to happen when I get older or start living full time as male. As female I get guessed at 15 or 16. As male, pedo-fodder @_@.
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kyril

Quote from: The Other Kaleb on August 04, 2011, 09:21:22 PM
that's hilarious that they're not noticing the name and gender. i don't know how to help, bro :/ it's just gonna be one of the perils of having a young face. maybe try to make yourself look older than your picture? then again, how does one make themselves look older?
I don't know, lol. I tried dressing older, but I just look like I'm wearing my dad's clothes. I can't grow any facial hair yet...I suspect a bit of beard shadow would totally fix my problem, but it's showing no signs of appearing. So I'm pretty much at a loss. I'll probably look older when I put on some more muscle and my skin starts to look a bit more mature, but that could be another year or two.


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Sean

I would see if you could get a doctor's letter - on actual letterhead (with contact info, etc.) stating you are being treated for a  hormonal disorder or condition & listing your true name and birthdate (as indicated on the id).

Then if a clerk gave you had a hard time, you could say as matter of fact as possible, "Yes, I realize I look young. It's because I have a medical condition/hormone deficiency/etc. I have a letter if you need proof."

Most won't want to see the document, some will apologize and feel crappy for making a big deal about your medical issue, and, while some might be skeptical (which is why you actually need a document), most, in general, will realize that there could be serious legal problems if they refuse you service on account of something that is a medical condition.

My best guess is that this will actually work better once your ID says M/name change, because there is definitely an element of male privilege in customer service, where making a guy who has a hormonal disorder feel like crap for looking less like an adult man isn't cool, way more than people care about putting out someone who seems like a young woman & has an F to match. But there is no reason it shouldn't work with the F either.




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