Aversion to Violence

[n00bsWithBoobs]

So, I went to see Rise of the Planet of the Apes tonight and one thing I noticed is that my aversion to violence seems to have intensified... to the point where I really don't want to watch anything with violence in it for a good, long while. Things like that never really bothered me before, but now, it's almost.. I don't know. Painful, or something. I was wondering if anyone has noticed an increase in aversion to watching violence since starting HRT?

[AbraCadabra]

Abso-->-bleeped-<-ing-lutely! [sic] Sex and the city :-)

It REALLY puts me off so much, I would just get up and leave.
Violent stuff I now find most revolting.
It's been coming a long while though, and is not just due to HRT. Some Old Age? Eh.

Honey... I think with less T we do some more social growing up.

Even those violently noisy car and bike exhausts REALLY revolt me.
ALL seem to have written one BIG T on them. Ridiculous.

Would that violent noise output be inversely related to member size?
I keep wondering

Axelle

[xxUltraModLadyxx]

for the most part, yeah. i still like to play fighting video games/ actions games sometimes, but of course i still want to play as a female character. i think i enjoy that different from feeling "macho." i enjoy movies like elektra. it's a certain kind of thing i admire in females, because it's unique that they aren't the complete gender stereotype. i play some of the fighting games i used to play as a kid. that was my outlet. that was the thing i did to forget all about my problems. it's kind of just a thing you want to keep doing once you've tried it. i'm not really consistent the way you all might be.

[Cindy]

Thought it was just me

[annette]

I never liked it in the first place.
It's all about anger, one does something bad and the other one takes revenge.
I like movies who will touch me in some way, sometimes a movie who will give me tears in the eyes and another time movies who will make me laugh.

About the violence in real life.....I don't get it.
It looks that people are forgetting how to talk.
They can't get a agree to disagree or making their points clear.
It's apparently easier to use violence to make your point clear......stupid.

So, hugs everyone from a peacefull
Annette

[Jennie]

I have not start HRT yet, I hope to on Monday when I see my Doc. but I think that yes the T has a great deal to do with the agression that male's have and like to see, this is just in general, there are men who can keep there male behavior under control, not many but they are out there, that being said when your T is lowered and estrogen is taking effect then yes I think it would change your view of the male T driven activities.  Aloha.

Jennie

[Cindy]

I never liked it in the first place.
It's all about anger, one does something bad and the other one takes revenge.
I like movies who will touch me in some way, sometimes a movie who will give me tears in the eyes and another time movies who will make me laugh.

About the violence in real life.....I don't get it.
It looks that people are forgetting how to talk.
They can't get a agree to disagree or making their points clear.
It's apparently easier to use violence to make your point clear......stupid.

So, hugs everyone from a peacefull
Annette

Nice point.

The only violent movie I have seen for a while and 'liked' was 'No Country for Old Men' but it was a repugnance of violence that drove the film.

I've posted before saying society is getting more violent, and have been, rightly, shot down for not supplying the proof. I think we have the same degree of violence, or less, that the past generations. But we are so more effective at achieving the outcome. It is difficult to beat someone to death, unless you are either an unlucky amateur or a professional. Any fool can shoot some one. I think we are more violent and we are more effective at it and  very less caring.

Young men have  forever have strutted their stuff. It is what boys do,

Young women bitch to be top bitch, that's what women do.

(I'm deliberately being sexist)

But now we kill each other.  Before we fought.

I won't go on.

Cindy

 

[~RoadToTrista~]

HRT sounds so boring. =.=

[LilKittyCatZoey]

HRT sounds so boring. =.=

Did you enjoy that movie sucker punch??? you know fighting and girls in tight cloths?? well every boy does!! and when i left half way because i was  disgusted every guy couldnt understand so yea hrt fixes those stupid enjoyments we had  bring on twilight lol 

[~RoadToTrista~]

bring on twilight lol 

TT.TT

[Asfsd4214]

Did you enjoy that movie sucker punch??? you know fighting and girls in tight cloths?? well every boy does!! and when i left half way because i was  disgusted every guy couldnt understand so yea hrt fixes those stupid enjoyments we had  bring on twilight lol 

I watched the movie with 2 girls and a guy.

I hate it and left half way through, the other three kept watching, the other 2 girls liked it, the guy i think had mixed feelings.

Go figure, maybe it's cause not everyone's the same and these things are personality differences only marginally related to HRT?

I find so many of these threads attribute things to HRT that seem to me to be just as easily explained by psychological personality traits, possibly evolving as a result of progress in transition physiologically and/or mentally.

I hated sucker punch, not cause of the violence so much (I have a violent streak), but because the plot was extremely thin and seemed only to justify extended action sequences.


"Women don't like violence" is a gender stereotype people. Real people, real life people, come in all kinds of personality types.

And it's hard to attribute causes. But please don't make out that it's 'unfemale' to be violent. It's a stereotype.

[LilKittyCatZoey]

I watched the movie with 2 girls and a guy.

I hate it and left half way through, the other three kept watching, the other 2 girls liked it, the guy i think had mixed feelings.

Go figure, maybe it's cause not everyone's the same and these things are psychological different only marginally related to HRT?

I find so many of these threads attribute things to HRT that seem to me to be just as easily explained by psychological personality traits, possibly evolving as a result of progress in transition physiologically and/or mentally.

I hated sucker punch, not cause of the violence so much (I have a violent streak), but because the plot was extremely thin and seemed only to justify extended action sequences.


"Women don't like violence" is a gender stereotype people. Real people, real life people, come in all kinds of personality types.

And it's hard to attribute causes. But please don't make out that it's 'unfemale' to be violent. It's a stereotype.

calm down just playing with trista  and

TT.TT

haha

[tekla]

It is difficult to beat someone to death, unless you are either an unlucky amateur or a professional. Any fool can shoot some one. I think we are more violent and we are more effective at it

That's why on the American Frontier they called the Colt .45 'the great equalizer' - before that, the biggest, strongest and meanest ruled, what did Hobbs call it?  The war of all against all?

[Cindy]

But Kat,

You were one who chastised me that modern society is less violent. It may be but it is more successful at it.

So what weight do we use?

Cindy

[tekla]

Here's the weird deal, and I've looked at some stats on this too, so it's not just anecdotal.  The vast majority of people I know who have really got their ass kicked had it happen outside the US.  Australia, England - and Scotland, parts of Edinburgh is particularly nuts.  Apparently Groundskeeper Willie is not a parody.  And here's what I think is going on.  There is nothing to worry about.  Bullies and naturally violent people get away with casual violence because there is no higher trump card on the table.  It makes people more willing, more eager and less cautious.  You really better think a couple of times, and a few more too, before you call someone down in a country where between 25-39% of the population own guns.  Those kind of fights - brawls, fisticuffs, (don't the Irish have a 20 different words for a big fight?  Donnybrook) are pretty rare in the US, at least in comparison to other gun controlled Western nations.  How does the saying go?  An armed society is a polite society.

[n00bsWithBoobs]

Hmm.. in response to "perceived difference on HRT versus psychological evolution", I try to be cognizant of abstract, unreported effects. When juxtaposing differences and perceived differences, I usually try to err on the side of caution and chalk it up to the latter rather than the former.

However, this case *seems* to be more a matter of hormones, for several reasons:
- With hormones, the highs are higher and the lows are lower emotionally. Watching a movie, you emotionally invest in the characters.
- Being invested in the characters, you empathize more with protagonists.
- Testosterone is an aggression drug, which is why there's such thing as "'roid rage".
- When the violence was happening on screen, the violence just plain scared me so much that it hurt. I found myself jumping in my seat and then scolding myself because it was just a movie.

It's not that I've ever been pro-violence. I've always been a peace advocate. Things like guns scare me. However, I've never had a problem disassociating myself with movies. Movie guns are not real and people don't really die. Now, though, violence just plain scares me. I don't know why and it's not some kind of feminine ideal I'm trying to adhere to. Just wanted to see if anyone else had experienced it.

[tekla]

Movie guns are not real and people don't really die

Not so fast.  The first safety rule in my union handbook (we do movies and TV too) is: The gun is always real.  The gun is always loaded. You can - and people have - died as a result of getting hit in exactly the right spot by a blank.  Did you know that the ATF has a seperate division just to send agents to movies and TV filmings to supervise the guns?  When Benson and/or Stabler pulls that gun out, it's a real gun.  It's not loaded with live ammo, but you need the right weight to make it look right.

[justmeinoz]

Today I stopped at McD's (hereafter to be known as "the golden tits") for lunch.  At the next table were two women and their children who were discussing some scary movie that the kids had seen.  The discussion then moved on somehow to violent computer games. 
I felt like telling the mothers to get the kids a copy of Eli Weisel's "Night"; about his childhood experiences in Auschwitz; so they would find out what real life is like.  T don't think they would never look at another horror movie again.
Karen.

[Asfsd4214]

Today I stopped at McD's (hereafter to be known as "the golden tits") for lunch.  At the next table were two women and their children who were discussing some scary movie that the kids had seen.  The discussion then moved on somehow to violent computer games. 
I felt like telling the mothers to get the kids a copy of Eli Weisel's "Night"; about his childhood experiences in Auschwitz; so they would find out what real life is like.  T don't think they would never look at another horror movie again.
Karen.

Or maybe, crazy thought here, we should just let kids be kids and have fun?

Everyone could stand to have a bit more fun and be a bit less serious.


EDIT: Yes I see the irony in this post.

[AbraCadabra]

Isn't it at least one accepted fact that T as opposed to E will have a different "emotional filter".

Do you ever see guys cry in a movie? No

Do you see females cry? Yes

1) The feminine by nature, is nurturing and supportive.
And let's please, PLEASE, can all those exceptions.
Exceptions will only confirm the rule.

2) The male by nature is acquisitive and goal oriented. (Hunting the mammoth)

And in this case Milage will Not Vary, sorry.

Why do I think of differences in orgasms now...?

In any case, the female runs on E, and so do most of us.
Nurturing and supportive DOES NOT SPELL LIKE VIOLENCE - unless you start to threaten her offsprings or some such.

Violence in movies is fodder for repressed T aggression, prevented to express it self.
'Young guns' by nature pine for domination and that spells VIOLENCE.
Easy peasy...

It is obviously what nature had in mind for E and T and so we have to get by with it.
Acquisitive and goal orientation BTW makes the male sexy to the female --- up to a point, that is.
Let's not get into the violence of rape. It is of course all connected.

Axelle