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Started by n00bsWithBoobs, August 07, 2011, 12:21:56 AM

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SandraJane

Quote from: Axélle on August 10, 2011, 06:20:34 AM

Some of our 'violence apostles' aught to take note.

It is not only in the physical practice of it, but also in one's 'mindset' i.e. 'digital based violence'
(have I just created a new word?:-)

Axelle

So far Axelle I can't find the term 'digital based violence' as such, but 'violence apostles'  is a winner!

Still on the subj of violence, here's an interesting article from some 'violence apostles' on the different types and the mindset...
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/four_types_of_violence.htm
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AbraCadabra

Well there is "digital-violence" the word I first had in mind.
That does exist already.
Though as a ex-IT person it sounds a bit odd. Violating bits and bytes... ?

OK, so digital-violence is fine by me.
The point is NOT to ban it.
It would be like banning junk food.
But making provision on one's dietary plan and not ingest too much of the stuff.

Like, "you are what you eat", --- but also "you are WHAT YOU THINK"!!

Gosh, that website is also a some beyond my mental dietary plan.

Eish,
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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SandraJane

Axelle, I'm surprised that I couldn't find the exact term "digital violence", like we hear allusions to it all the time on the news, print about computer and video games, but what is it exactly?

You've got a good handle on the language, how would you define it for "Webster's"? And you warned about banning it...
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AbraCadabra

Honey, as they say: Google it... books get old too

Digital-Violence,
About 100,000,000 results

Should keep you busy some time babe :-)

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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SandraJane

Bing'd it instead! Lousy results.  Seriously, you have something definite in mind.
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AbraCadabra

* Seriously, you have something definite in mind *

EVERYTHING on display is digital these days. Even the movie stock is going the way from analogue.

So EVERYTHING WE SEE IS DIGITAL(ISED) and every bit of violence shown uses this media. Simple as that.
All this stuff is like junk-food for the mind.
As for an adult it is bad enough, but for kids it be junk-food breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Also, some of us adults can stay away from mental junk-food, kids really can't.

That is the tragedy of digital-violence. Only radio may still be an exception --- and funny enough it is mostly analogue, hm.

No idea if that answers the question, but there you are.

Ta, ta,
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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SandraJane

Good Enough. Radio...theater of the mind...
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Stephe

I don't know but.... when people start saying things like "If you are a man you are violent and are insensitive and if you are a woman you are nurturing and emotional" is basically saying to me "if you want to be a woman you better stop playing video games that are violent, stop enjoying shows like the Soppranos and take up knitting" to me. Sorry but I am still gonna ride my motorcycle when I feel like it and no, that doesn't make me "less of a woman" because I don't sell my bike and spend that time dreaming of raising children...
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AbraCadabra

All in good measure, why always get to the argumentative extrem of STOPPING?!
Nobody said that!
Eish,
Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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JungianZoe

I'm with the OP on this one.  My aversion to violence was already pretty strong given how badly I was abused as a child.  But before HRT, I could still play video games like GTA or Red Dead Redemption without feeling anything.  It was just a harmless video game, right?

Not anymore... now, the thought of it all makes me absolutely sick.  I can't even handle digital violence.  I can't handle lots of swearing.  One thing I've never been is a prude, and I'm still not a prude, but violence and vulgarity make me very sad for the human condition and that just starts me crying.  Yes, I cry when I see violence for the sake of violence.
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ravij

I don't like real violence, but if it's fake I don't mind at all.
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AbraCadabra

* ... now, the thought of it all makes me absolutely sick.  I can't even handle digital violence.  I can't handle lots of swearing.  One thing I've never been is a prude, and I'm still not a prude, but violence and vulgarity make me very sad for the human condition... *

Yep, I feel the same as Zoë has put it. Also more strongly after HRT, and that's just fine by me.
Maybe we ALWAYS had this in us, and HRT just made us connect more to it, so?

An added issue, if digital-voilence is banned say on TV, it is so often replaced by digital-stupidity. Just as depressing. I stopped watching TV, it is > 90% mind numbing for me, adds and all.

Axelle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Cirnobyl

I'm a long time gamer; games were always my favorite escape from reality. I was also ridiculously good at them, in particular violent games. The game violence never got me excited though, even on T. Instead for me the games were about competition; something we all can enjoy. The violence in games doesn't really pull at my heartstrings the way real violence does. Like for instance, I can't watch violent movies or horror flicks at all. I tried watching the movie "kick ass" with my cousins last week and my feelings went from disgusted, shocked and back again. I HATE violent movies. Even before, on T, I disliked them.

Though with games, even with HRT and feeling fully feminine in every other way, I can still sit down and do really good at violent games. In particular military shooters like the Battlefield series. My cousins had that new Mortal Kombat and even though it made me cringe with its X-RAY shots (not to mention sexism!) I still played it just because I was good at it. My cousins needed me to beat the hard levels, heheh. Maybe I can stand it because the game sprites just don't register in my subconscious as real people the way movie actors do.

I have to admit though lately, I feel a lot happier playing peaceful games like Cityville on Facebook.
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n00bsWithBoobs

Quote from: Zoë Natasha on August 10, 2011, 09:27:27 PM
I'm with the OP on this one.  My aversion to violence was already pretty strong given how badly I was abused as a child.  But before HRT, I could still play video games like GTA or Red Dead Redemption without feeling anything.  It was just a harmless video game, right?

Not anymore... now, the thought of it all makes me absolutely sick.  I can't even handle digital violence.  I can't handle lots of swearing.  One thing I've never been is a prude, and I'm still not a prude, but violence and vulgarity make me very sad for the human condition and that just starts me crying.  Yes, I cry when I see violence for the sake of violence.

This probably most closely relates to my life experiences. My dad beat me when I was a kid, so I kind took a pacifist bent growing up. However, LOVED action movies, the movies from the Saw series, anything with martial arts, etc. It was just good fun. I didn't want to take part in the violence, but I got the adrenaline rush from watching them. I have a high degree of self-cognizance in regards to hormones stuff. I try to always be aware of my feelings, my surroundings, and to note how things change. Hormones definitely hasn't been any kind of "magic switch" for me to feel a different way. I just get to the point of almost tears with violence now. I just can't handle it. It's not that anything in my perspective has particularly changed either. I really don't act overtly feminine because that doesn't feel natural. I really think that HRT has perhaps increased my ability to feel for others, maybe, or something. I mean, there's already an anecdotal adage that the "highs are higher and the lows are lower" in regards to emotions, so why wouldn't it stand to reason that aversion to violence, since it's tied to an emotion, would be strengthened somewhat as a result of your body chemistry being messed with?

I guess this is the last I'll post on it. Thanks everyone for your responses.
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