UK Sanitary Pad Ad featuring "trans women"

[xXRebeccaXx]

while i can definitely see the side where transwomen (and other people with a conscience) would take offense, i also see it as a bitch slap towards FAAB people, reminding them that there are those that desire for one of the most "unpleasant" things in life. i can imagine you girls' dysphoria over the subject (because i have mine over male issues) but i can't imagine exactly how you feel about the ad. i don't necessarily find the message offensive, more the execution. what i can say with certainty is all of you are prettier than the women (or men, if they identify as such) filmed in the commercial.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[RyGuy]

all in all i think it was done neither for humour nor a serious "advocate" message but sheer shock value, and i can understand why you are all so upset over being the object of that shock.

[sparkles]

I am a lot happyier now that it is not a real advert that will be going out here though u have to wonder who gave the go ahead for it to get to filming stage

[tekla]

why you are all so upset over being the object of that shock.

They were the vehicle (at best) not the object of the joke.

[valyn_faer]

Many people here have said that transgender people could not be accepted by Koreans so well if Ha Ri Su were not so much pretty. The stereotype on M2F transsexual is that M2F have to be prettier than ordinary young women, even than entertainment stars.

Sorry for the delayed response on this, but it seems to be the case here in the U.S. as well; at least from what I've seen. When I chopped my hair off, quite a few ciswomen were kind of baffled by it, like I have to be hyperfeminine, but they don't. Men, however, don't seem to care. I see women literally every day who have short hair. In fact, it's not uncommon to see girls with shaved heads here. I live in Oregon and most people in my town don't seem to care at all if a ciswoman has a shaved head. They tend to just chock it up to the hippy lifestyle that is common in Oregon. It's like we have to be even more feminine than ciswomen do, even in a town where being a grungy hippy girl who doesn't wear makeup and has dirty looking dreads or a shaved head is a common phenomenon.

[RyGuy]

Sorry for the delayed response on this, but it seems to be the case here in the U.S. as well; at least from what I've seen. When I chopped my hair off, quite a few ciswomen were kind of baffled by it, like I have to be hyperfeminine, but they don't. Men, however, don't seem to care. I see women literally every day who have short hair. In fact, it's not uncommon to see girls with shaved heads here. I live in Oregon and most people in my town don't seem to care at all if a ciswoman has a shaved head. They tend to just chock it up to the hippy lifestyle that is common in Oregon. It's like we have to be even more feminine than ciswomen do, even in a town where being a grungy hippy girl who doesn't wear makeup and has dirty looking dreads or a shaved head is a common phenomenon.

not to justify their prejudice, but what they're probably thinking is "if you wanted to shave your head and wear baggy pants every day, why didn't you just stay a man?" they don't understand that gender =/= expression or presentation and that being a woman =/= wanting to wear dresses.

[valyn_faer]

not to justify their prejudice, but what they're probably thinking is "if you wanted to shave your head and wear baggy pants every day, why didn't you just stay a man?" they don't understand that gender =/= expression or presentation and that being a woman =/= wanting to wear dresses.

Yeah, it's weird. It's as though when they think of ciswomen, woman =/= wanting to wear a dress and be super feminine all the time, but when they think of transwomen, it does. I'm sure it just has to do with ignorance and stereotyping and essentializing us. It's like when someone asks me if I know so-and-so trans person in town. "Yep, I know all trans people everywhere in the world. We all know each other and we do have a special little club." 

[RyGuy]

Yeah, it's weird. It's as though when they think of ciswomen, woman =/= wanting to wear a dress and be super feminine all the time, but when they think of transwomen, it does. I'm sure it just has to do with ignorance and stereotyping and essentializing us. It's like when someone asks me if I know so-and-so trans person in town. "Yep, I know all trans people everywhere in the world. We all know each other and we do have a special little club." 

well, because their physical sex has always matched their internal gender, they don't know what it's like to "know" you are the opposite of what you seem. how can you explain being a woman exactly? anyways, i feel for you but also understand where "everyone else" is coming from when they don't get us.

[Da Monkey]

well, because their physical sex has always matched their internal gender, they don't know what it's like to "know" you are the opposite of what you seem. how can you explain being a woman exactly? anyways, i feel for you but also understand where "everyone else" is coming from when they don't get us.

Yeah exactly, obviously we understand it because that's what we are. How do you expect other people to learn something that has nothing to do with them?

[barbie]

Sorry for the delayed response on this, but it seems to be the case here in the U.S. as well; at least from what I've seen. When I chopped my hair off, quite a few ciswomen were kind of baffled by it, like I have to be hyperfeminine, but they don't. Men, however, don't seem to care. I see women literally every day who have short hair. In fact, it's not uncommon to see girls with shaved heads here. I live in Oregon and most people in my town don't seem to care at all if a ciswoman has a shaved head. They tend to just chock it up to the hippy lifestyle that is common in Oregon. It's like we have to be even more feminine than ciswomen do, even in a town where being a grungy hippy girl who doesn't wear makeup and has dirty looking dreads or a shaved head is a common phenomenon.

When I was in the US, I sometimes happened to watch talk shows feautring m2f trassexual. Still, most people around me there did not tell clearly between gays and m2f transsexuals.

In my country, the problem is worse. Most people still do not know much about transgender or transsexual. Most people first think that I am a kind of gay, and some friends ask me about my sexual orientation. They seem to be relieved after hearing my reply that I am a kind of lesbian rather than gay men. And, openly, the term 'transgender' is exclusively used for denoting transsexual de facto in the western society, and most people here never heard about transsexual. I explain again that there are many 'transgender' people who do not want SRS. To them, transgender people are those who underwent SRS or consider it seriously. It is just a kind of etymological debate, not any more.

My existence and appearance is so striking in my work place or my town that nearly all people know me. To them, I am just a unique or bizarre person. Some people like me. Without my current career and professional performace, all of them would not like me. As long as I perform well in this 'normal' society, most people, including my family, accept and tolerate my queer appearance.

Most people consider me as a man, but they tend to be surprised at my hidden aggressiveness when I work with others. Some even say that I possess a kind of charisma.

It is difficult to explain 'androgynous' to people here. Some people even say that they can not accept my feminie expression unless I undertake SRS.

And nowadays I am tired of explaining or debating about my transgenerism, no longer try hard to justify it.

Thus, my motto is "Just do it."

Barbie~~