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Started by Tj.wright07, October 03, 2011, 04:39:47 PM

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Tj.wright07

Ive been on T for 16 months.. and  ive noticed some things before T i had the best hair it was so soft. now it's really rough and i dont like it AT all. is there something i can put in my hair to make it that baby soft again?
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Nygeel

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Tj.wright07

Do i use it as shampoo or put some on after i shower?
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Elijah3291

put it on for an hour or so and shampoo or rinse it out.

I sometimes use it overnight
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lexnotluthor

Hi there. I'm usually more of a lurker but this question caught me and I was just thinking about similar things. I'm 8 months on T and my skin and hair have largely remained of a good texture with some research. I find that T will make your hair coarser just as a matter of things, but it can be stemmed off with a change in products. I read the labels on the new shampoos and soaps I was buying out of the mens section and found that there are some important differences between them and womens soaps. They seem to have more of a detergent/deodorizing quality whereas womens or neutral things tend to have more dimethicone, a softening agent. Another thing mens products encourage is to use one soap for everything, or using a 2 in 1 instead of separate shampoo and conditioner. I grew up in salons owned by family members and I remember this being told to me as a distinctly bad thing to do. Stripping the oils from your hair, especially without using a conditioner to replace them, can gradually dry your hair out and make it frizzy, rough, and unmanageable.

To soften your hair back up, definitely watch what kind of shampoo you are using and don't skip the conditioner. For shampoo, find one that is geared towards dry hair. If scent is a concern look for a neutral brand. I actually like Suave's "smooth" shampoo. Even the shampoo has dimethicone in it too, not just the conditioner, so that's like two shots of lotion for the hair. Leave the conditioner on your hair for a minute or two before rinsing for maximum effect. If you need even more conditioning, look for a hair mask to be left on after conditioning that contains something like egg whites, honey, barley hops, avocado oil, olive oil, etc. If your hair is still dry after that, a spray-in conditioner or detangler may help. John Freida makes some very good defrizzing products. Stay away from gels and hairsprays if you can. They can both contain alcohol, which will destroy your hair in short order especially when combined with use of a hairdryer. Instead, look for waxes, especially those based in water (for light hold) or beeswax (for stronger hold) if you're doing the spike thing.

If rough body hair is also a concern, but you don't want to fool around with applying lotion outside of the shower... I like applying it in the shower and rinsing it off. No sitting around greasy waiting for it to absorb and it still gets the job done because your pores are open from the shower's warmth. Again, the ingredients of the lotion are key here. Nut oils like sunflower, soy, shea, coconut etc. are best. Look out for lanolin and petroleum - gunky and potentially pore-clogging, which is bad news for those of us with acne from T. Sunflower oil can even help to get rid of acne.

Hope that helped. :)
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Tj.wright07

Quote from: lexnotluthor on October 03, 2011, 04:59:56 PM
Hi there. I'm usually more of a lurker but this question caught me and I was just thinking about similar things. I'm 8 months on T and my skin and hair have largely remained of a good texture with some research. I find that T will make your hair coarser just as a matter of things, but it can be stemmed off with a change in products. I read the labels on the new shampoos and soaps I was buying out of the mens section and found that there are some important differences between them and womens soaps. They seem to have more of a detergent/deodorizing quality whereas womens or neutral things tend to have more dimethicone, a softening agent. Another thing mens products encourage is to use one soap for everything, or using a 2 in 1 instead of separate shampoo and conditioner. I grew up in salons owned by family members and I remember this being told to me as a distinctly bad thing to do. Stripping the oils from your hair, especially without using a conditioner to replace them, can gradually dry your hair out and make it frizzy, rough, and unmanageable.

To soften your hair back up, definitely watch what kind of shampoo you are using and don't skip the conditioner. For shampoo, find one that is geared towards dry hair. If scent is a concern look for a neutral brand. I actually like Suave's "smooth" shampoo. Even the shampoo has dimethicone in it too, not just the conditioner, so that's like two shots of lotion for the hair. Leave the conditioner on your hair for a minute or two before rinsing for maximum effect. If you need even more conditioning, look for a hair mask to be left on after conditioning that contains something like egg whites, honey, barley hops, avocado oil, olive oil, etc. If your hair is still dry after that, a spray-in conditioner or detangler may help. John Freida makes some very good defrizzing products. Stay away from gels and hairsprays if you can. They can both contain alcohol, which will destroy your hair in short order especially when combined with use of a hairdryer. Instead, look for waxes, especially those based in water (for light hold) or beeswax (for stronger hold) if you're doing the spike thing.

If rough body hair is also a concern, but you don't want to fool around with applying lotion outside of the shower... I like applying it in the shower and rinsing it off. No sitting around greasy waiting for it to absorb and it still gets the job done because your pores are open from the shower's warmth. Again, the ingredients of the lotion are key here. Nut oils like sunflower, soy, shea, coconut etc. are best. Look out for lanolin and petroleum - gunky and potentially pore-clogging, which is bad news for those of us with acne from T. Sunflower oil can even help to get rid of acne.

Hope that helped. :)

thanks so much. that did help. i didn't really have ache until after my one year on T. maybe change in climate idk. i just bought some witch hazel and i was told that would help. but idk. what is your thought on that?
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lexnotluthor

You're very welcome. I've never used witch hazel myself but I do hear that it works. The usual method is to get a liquid that can be applied to a cotton ball and rub that on the skin once per day. Another similar treatment that I have personally used with success is tea tree oil. However, it might be worth a look on the labels for these as well... some preparations of witch hazel and tea tree oil are diluted with other things. If you're looking for heavy duty clearing power you might try getting a pure oil from a health food store like Whole Foods and applying a small amount. The funny thing about acne sometimes is that the more you try to treat it, the worse it gets. This is usually because acne is partially caused by over-production of oil, so if you're using rough chemicals to take the oil off the skin all the time, then the skin will eventually compensate and make even more oil. I've experienced this when I've used the same acne treatment for a long time, and it gradually doesn't work as well as it used to.

The best strategy I find is to resist the urge to pop, touch, or over-apply stuff to the skin and let it see some air when you can. I bought some simple tanks in a package and I wear those on my days off from work, and then I go outside or get in the pool and that seems to help. Granted that's hard to do in colder weather but just to air the skin out even indoors seems to help. For body soap I use a standard 2% salicylic acid soap all over in the shower, just once per day, and immediately afterward I use a lotion with nut oils, rinsed off. Face can be washed before bed for a total of two washes a day, once more with a salicylic acid soap. I stay away from antibacterials and benzoyl peroxide because I don't personally care to overuse antibiotics, and benzoyl peroxide works but it makes a right mess all over every fabric it touches. It's peroxide bleach! I've ruined some nice shirts that way, not to mention I once accidentally had off-color eyebrows from long-term use. If I really need a boost I go for the tea tree oil, or just once a day I use some of those stridex pads.
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Nygeel

My hair has alway been gross, dry, and frizzy. I don't use shampoo much...maybe once every other week and use conditioner with olive oil every other day. It's still super dry. FML
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lexnotluthor

Quote from: Nygeel on October 03, 2011, 05:41:24 PM
My hair has alway been gross, dry, and frizzy. I don't use shampoo much...maybe once every other week and use conditioner with olive oil every other day. It's still super dry. FML

Hmm, you might try using shampoo a little more. Maybe every week to 3 days instead. Use of a gentle shampoo can, rather than strip out oil, encourage the glands to produce more of their own. Give it a gentle brush with boar bristles or other types of soft bristles, focusing on massaging the scalp, and that might help. If most shampoos are too harsh, some people I've heard suggest baby shampoo. I don't know about this personally, but baby and kid shampoos seem to have less detergent in them.

Oddly, I've never gotten the olive oil treatments others seem to like to work for me. I have thick hair so I find that the effort it takes to get the oil back out undoes whatever good it might have done. But I can say that one time I let a family member experiment with bleach on my hair. She wrecked it and left me with duck-yellow hair. I fixed it most of the way with the good old-fashioned mayonnaise trick. It's super easy. You basically just get some full-fat mayonnaise, maybe an egg or a touch of honey, and whip it into a mask. Then you apply it to your hair, coating down to the roots, and cover it with a shower cap. It stays on for about 20 minutes and is easier to wash off than olive oil. You smell like potato salad for a day but lol. That kind of treatment is only really necessary once a month. A plus is that it helps dandruff too. It's the fat in the mayonnaise.

If mayonnaise is totally unacceptable to you (I know some people gag at the smell of it), John Frieda's frizz serum is a good product. All it takes is to rub in a drop of it.
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Nygeel

I'vr used frizz ease and john freida serum, it tends to just make my hair greasey instead of soft. The shampoo is mild and has olive oil in it, too. I've had thick hair my whole life. Not. Fun. Used to have a fro that stood out 6 inches.
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Luc

Wash and condition your hair with one of the many brands of "sleek and shine" products. I've used Garnier Fructis, Aussie, and Pantene, and got the same results from each. I know there are plenty of expensive salon brands that tout the ability to make your hair softer than it's ever been, but I witnessed my ex-wife have the same softness and shine from a $30 product as a $3 product, so I certainly wouldn't advise spending much for a product that probably works the same as the cheap stuff.

You may also need some deep conditioning--- not sure if your hair could be coarse from the T or from some other damage, but Garnier has a good deep conditioning hair masque you can pick up at Wal-Mart for about $4.
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Ender

I had thick, coarse hair before T.  I think it may have become coarser on T.  It's like an animal pelt on my head, lol.

It tends to get frizzy and awful-looking if I don't use conditioner every time I wash it.  I used to use Garnier Fructis, but have had better results from more expensive stuff (unfortunately).  Biolage and Tresseme both make a very heavy conditioner that works well to tame my hair.  Only washing it every other day helps, too.  Washing it every day is just asking for trouble.  Neither of these conditioners gets my hair 'baby soft,' they just tame it so it doesn't turn into a 'fro.  I make sure to put it on my hair and leave it for about 5 minutes before washing it off.

You might try going to a hair-dresser type place next time you need a haircut, ask for somebody who has worked there for a long time, and hopefully they will have an idea of what you should use.  Having somebody experienced with hair who can see what yours is like in person could yield the desired results, though the stuff they recommend probably won't be cheap.
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anibioman

conditioner just your average conditioner should make your hair noticeably softer. also you might want to change your shampoo as it might me damaging your hair. you could also try washing your hair less like wash it every other day in the shower as aposed to washing it every day when you shower.

GentlemanRDP

I've used almond oil in my hair before, it works great.
And I've had friends who've beat an egg and then put that in their hair - it didn't smell great after, but it was always super soft xD
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Sharky

I don't use conditioner, but I accidentally used some Trader Joes Refresh conditioner once. It's got a citrus smell. It was really thick and made my hair feel really soft.
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wendy

Actually I asked cosmetology teacher what products to use for hair.  She said always look for panthenol in shampoo and conditioner and try to stay away from alcohols in shampoos and conditioners.  I try to leave conditioner in my hair for one minute to make it softer.  Then after shower I use a detangler with more panthenol.   My hair seems nicer if I shower in morning and let it air dry.
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Osiris

My hair was always a pain to deal with. My solution: shave it.  8)

Was that not helpful?  :icon_omfg:
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Squirrel698

Tea Tree Oil is what I use in my shampoo.  My stylist recommended that I just put a few drops in my regular shampoo.   Not to improve my hair texture but to help with my itchy scalp. 

My hair is coarser but I'm not concerned as it's par for the course.  My scalp is due to the weather but I want it as healthy as possible due to obvious reasons.   :P 
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xAndrewx

Quote from: Osiris on October 04, 2011, 05:59:11 PM
My hair was always a pain to deal with. My solution: shave it.  8)

Was that not helpful?  :icon_omfg:

:D Same here man so much simpler.

anibioman

Quote from: Osiris on October 04, 2011, 05:59:11 PM
My hair was always a pain to deal with. My solution: shave it.  8)

Was that not helpful?  :icon_omfg:
i did that once but the hair is back.