The Before & After FFS thread!

[Northern Star Girl]

@veronicayork
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[Northern Star Girl]

@veronicayork
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[anjaq]

I think 90% of trans women can benefit from FFS. As for how many "need" it, that depends a lot on individual perception. But I would say over 90% have masculine markers that can cause dysphoria or even cause people to "clock" someone. But for many of those, those markers are not so much significant that it will ruin every day of the life or make them "unpassable". So its a highly individual thing to decide on FFS - what I also noticed is that with age (and that goes for age of transition but also for overall age) things get a bit worse. I made the older trans women in the support group envious when I transitioned with early mid 20ies. Had not much issues for a while, but 20 years later things just bothered me so much - after a steady increase in dysphoria and also "clockings" - that I had the FFS done. I think with age, the soft tissue becomes weaker, thinner, bones show more and those are masculinized even if you start HRT at age 23. Also age always has a bit masculizin effect on women, so that does not help...
But I think with good HRT and a bit of styling and some Makeup, the majority of trans women can be "passable" without FFS - how strong ones own dysphoria is can never be guessed by others.

[wanderer83]

  I think that's the reason so many MTF's say it's overratted because they can't afford it lol. I mean for gods sake take a look around the internet and on this site and tell me FFS isn't worth it. If FFS or plastic surgery in general wasn't worth it do you honestly think all these people (trans & cisgender) would be paying thousands of dollars for nothing but a confidence boost?

  It might seem subtle to you but it's very apparent to the person getting it whats changed, perfect example of this is Sysm29 who just had major facial surgery and is freaking out because her face has changed completely.

   

I had FFS, A rhinoplasty, forehead contouring, hairline lowering , chin implant liposuction, and i took hormones on and off at age 18. Including plane flights accomodation and other stuff i would say its around 10k+ usd. I am 35 come december this year. Do I pass? 20% up from 0. Do i look more feminine? yes. Do I pass at an acceptable rate? NO.


Majority of the money were left to me by my late grandmother. With the remaining amount thats like a few ks, i spend them on the tria hair removal , an occulus and a couple of gaming accessories. As it turns out, they are less of a white elephant then this overhyped overglorified thing known as FFS. A part of me accepted that at least, my face was an improvement. A huge part of me though, wonder why did i spent that sum of money just to hope that that neverending GID dysphoria be cured. Just today someone told me i look norm for a male, with my BOB hairstyle, my completely shaven face that has no brow bossing, my androgynous t-shirt and jeans look. That was a real stab in my heart.


If i still had that money, i would have saved it for an investment like fixed deposits or some other things, at least even though i would still have gid dysphora, i remained 10k+ richer as compared to being 10k+ poor and still end up having GID dysphoria.


I do hope when fellow transwomen said how amazing FFS is, there should always be a word of caution that things might not turned out perfectly. People will still read you as male, and quite possibly no amount of FFS could fix that, its what we might just have to live with. A devastating truth is better than a comforting lie after all, well at least for me and maybe some of us.