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Does being trans make you feel like you're 'unworthy' of being loved?

Started by GentlemanRDP, October 15, 2011, 03:23:17 PM

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Natkat

Quote from: GentlemanRDP on October 15, 2011, 09:46:00 PM

@Natkat; I'm sorry that your country's like that. I wish you the best!

Sometimes I do think "oh, I should just not transition so I can have more chances, since I could easily get with a lesbian." But it's usually fleeting. Lots of people date transpeople. Lots of people who say they could "never" do it might feel a ton differently when love enters the equation. Love is pretty powerful. I'd much rather wait longer to find a partner and find someone who loves me for who I am.
thanks
its pretty f* the situation going on so far, but I really hope it will turn out to the better and not opposite,.
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I know what you mean, somethimes I wish I just could be a lesbian, there hot as hell, and cool, but I can't, cause I cant really be a girl, that just makes me depresst.
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to be all honest, people have diffrent kind of taste, some like skinny people some like fat people.
some find red hair nice, some are into men female, older guys or young lads...
we are all diffrent and have diffrent taste, however something are seen as more accepting or normal than others.

I dont see it as people arnt interesteed in transgender, ftm but more that its alittle tabuu to say so, and as I have said before many people are sissys who are scared of being diffrent from the crowd.

I actually had a couple of guys, bi and gay who found it kinda atractive to be ftm. they have said they found it kinda hot,
or kinky.. in a way.. or that they just like me as a male.. I was also to a queer bar with my transfriend, and there where this guy who found out we both where born women but turned into gay guys, and he said he found it kinda beutifull how you could be born female and then turn male and yet be gay, and as I turned around he started to make out with my friend and I where like........... O_O hmm.. well -__- please ignore me here...
to be honest I myself think ftms are really hot, and often more attractive than normal cis-guys.


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Nygeel

Living in a cissexist society does it more so than actually being trans.

Anyways...I think I'm deserving of love but the fact that I haven't been able to find non-cissexist, fetishizing, objectifying types I've been without it and not feeling so awesome.
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Vincent E.S.

Does being trans make me feel like I'm 'unworthy' of being loved? Yes, constantly.

Quote from: GentlemanRDP on October 15, 2011, 03:23:17 PM
But I really do want someone there that I can really get to know. I don't know what it's like to want to be with someone twenty-four seven, I don't know what it's like to really trust someone, or get to the point where you know that the other is thinking. I want that type of closeness, and I'd do anything to get it. I get jealous of my friends who are dating, because I worry that I'll never even get that chance. And I don't want to die alone. Sure, I don't want to get married, or have kids, but I don't want to miss out on everything in between.

That pretty much sums up how I am. I'm the kind of person who will come off colder than ice and twice as frigid until I've decided that I like you, but I'm a hopeless romantic at heart. I want to hold another man close to me, to give him a wonderful evening of classical music, red roses, and exquisite food, to give him poetry I've written, to cuddle for no reason.
I feel like being trans has caused me to miss out on experimenting during my teen years, like it's caused me to grow up too fast and not be able to linger in carefree existence.  I feel like I could have a mid-life crisis right here and now, though I'm not yet out of high school.
I don't think I could say that I'd give up being trans in order to have romance and love, but that's because I had even more of a lack of love before starting transition. I didn't even love myself at all. I still don't love myself, not really, but at least I've accepted myself and I suppose that requires some modicum of love.
The main part of me that I think prevents me from having romantic relationships is not that I'm trans, but that I identify as a gay man who is attracted to other gay man, but even though I'd be willing to have sex with a partner (with a man as a man), I'm really not that interested in sex. I want a romantic relationship that is monogamous and long-term. I'd be willing to do physical things to make my partner happy, but I wouldn't seek those things out. Between that and the not-so-typical mindset/views/beliefs I have make me the kind of person that most people aren't interested in, or, if they are, then they are interested in me only as one is interested in hearing a particularly intriguing philosophical debate.
Honestly, being trans makes me feel like I can only ever have a possibility of love if the lover in question is bi. I know that's not really true, but that's how I feel. I do go to a support group, but it's LGBTQ and I would feel awkward talking about that sort of thing. There is a trans-support group in my area, but the people who go are older than me, many by several decades, and I'm not overly fond of the man who runs that group.
Don't feel bad about being a virgin. Though I may not be as old as you, I've never been on a date or had a legitimate kiss. I say legitimate because when I was in first grade, a boy and I would kiss each other on the cheek as a greeting.

Oh, well. Everything changes over time. Things go in cycles and the opposites ebb and flow. Eventually I will feel the opposite of now, I'm sure.
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Sub-Zero

Yes.
Every damn day.
Not just unworthy of being loved but incapable of being loved. I worry I'll just be someone's 'experiment' or fetish in the future, instead of loved as a woman loves a man or vice versa.
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King Malachite

In part yes combined with my horrible looks, shyness and morbid obesity I am afraid that I will need to stay with the first person I date because there won't be anyone else that would want me.
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Felix

Quote from: Malachite on April 07, 2012, 09:21:09 PM
In part yes combined with my horrible looks, shyness and morbid obesity I am afraid that I will need to stay with the first person I date because there won't be anyone else that would want me.
Dude that's crazy. If you actually have those traits it would make it harder to attract somebody but wouldn't in any way make you unworthy.

I'm still not sure what to say to GentlemanRDP. Even though this is from October. :P
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poptart

Nope, but apparently it makes other people feel that way about me.
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Felix

everybody's house is haunted
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fatalerror

I think a ton of people go through this for any number of reasons - being trans, having a weight problem, a debilitating disease, abnormality, anything. I'm not saying being trans is a disease by any means but that a lot of people feel unworthy of love for all kinds of reasons, big or small. That doesn't mean it's true. People are attracted to all different traits. It may be harder but far from impossible.

I felt this way very much as I began to finally stop denying who I am. I hurt a lot and felt nobody could accept it for the same reasons. But then I realized that I could not be happy as a girl in a relationship, it would never work. I would rather be alone than be pretending to be what I'm not and suffering because of it, not to mention being deceitful to my partner.

And so I became more confident and outgoing, and because I was happy with myself, I realized I was becoming more attractive to people - more now than I ever was as a girl. I'm pre-everything but it's okay. I actually had a few people who became jealous when I started going out with my girlfriend. And she is amazing, beautiful, everything I could ever ask for - and you know, she didn't think she was worthy of me because of her own insecurities about her body. I am so grateful to have her.

There are people like that out there, it just takes time to find them. But they exist.
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xxUltraModLadyxx

this seems like a question that doesn't matter FTM or MTF, but i don't believe that. i AM worthy of being loved, it's the people who say that are at fault. don't believe it!
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Devin87

I have no desire to have anyone love me.  In fact, I think it'd be quite undesirable and awkward to have another person that tied up in my life and to have to reciprocate.  I'm not a very feeling person...
In between the lines there's a lot of obscurity.
I'm not inclined to resign to maturity.
If it's alright, then you're all wrong.
Why bounce around to the same damn song?
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xxUltraModLadyxx

Quote from: poptart on April 07, 2012, 10:46:04 PM
Nope, but apparently it makes other people feel that way about me.

other people don't think that. they think THEMSELVES unworthy, so they find someone to scapegoat on. that's really all it is.
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Colleen Ireland

I definitely know I'm worthy of being loved, but I definitely wrestle with feelings of unattractiveness, especially when being rejected **because** I'm trans.  THAT hurts, no matter how you slice it.  I'm attracted to both men and women, but for the time being, I want to date mainly women.  Well, it's HARD to find women who will date me.  Because I'm trans.  And pre-op.  They don't see me as a woman.  THAT hurts.

However, I do have hope.  I created a couple of dating profiles, and specifically mention right in the profile that I'm trans, but it's not the headline or most important fact.  I just put as much of myself in the profile as I can.  And then I wait.  Interestingly, I've now been contacted by two women who are interested in me, one of whom I'm still corresponding with, and hoping to meet soon.  I'm not sure whether we'll end up in a relationship, but at the very least, she'll be a good friend, and I can totally be myself with her.  And we do find each other attractive.

So there's hope.  Where there's hope, there's life.

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Edge

My current gender issues, self esteem issues, history, odd beliefs, and general weirdness all make me feel like finding someone who can love me will be impossible.
On the other hand, if I date someone who doesn't like me for who I am then I'm dating the wrong person. I'm sick of dating the wrong people.
Btw, relationships where people want to be together 24/7 are actually really unhealthy. There needs to be balance and some time apart.
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N.Chaos

Ben would probably argue this into infinity but I honestly, sincerely feel like just about every quality I have makes me undeserving of anyone's love. All this gender BS is just the crap icing on the turd cake, IMO. I was a monster before all this, this is just one more level to it as far as I'm concerned; a particularly ugly, inconvenient, constantly encroaching level (unfortunately).
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Felix

Quote from: N.Chaos on April 11, 2012, 01:14:11 AM
Ben would probably argue this into infinity but I honestly, sincerely feel like just about every quality I have makes me undeserving of anyone's love. All this gender BS is just the crap icing on the turd cake, IMO. I was a monster before all this, this is just one more level to it as far as I'm concerned; a particularly ugly, inconvenient, constantly encroaching level (unfortunately).
Dude, get ahold of yourself. I don't know who Ben is but you should pretend to be him. We're all monsters. Monsters can evolve.
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kelly_aus

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N.Chaos

Quote from: Felix on April 11, 2012, 03:48:36 AM
Dude, get ahold of yourself. I don't know who Ben is but you should pretend to be him. We're all monsters. Monsters can evolve.

Ben's my boyfriend, and most of the time I wish more than anything I could be him. His level of acceptance with just about everything is incredible. Hell, I knew I was upset last night but reading that, I think I realized even then just how bad it was.

I love those last two things you said, by the way. I might be stealing that sometime in the near future, if you don't mind.
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Jayr

I see being trans as a blessing when it comes to love.

It filters out the fakes, and unworthy ones.
It saves me from wasting my time with people that don't love me for the right reasons.

And to answer the question..F#$% no! I know damn right I'm worth it.







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