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Started by Elsa.G, October 18, 2011, 01:45:51 PM

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Elsa.G

went shopping today with my cousin, we went into a Forever 21 which surprisingly was really packed with people even though its a tuesday morning. We picked out some articles of clothing and as we were going into the fitting rooms a group of about 3 girls were talking amongst themselves while they were looking at me and suddenly i heard "thats a guy" and some loud giggling, these girls were clearly about 23 or 24 and they were acting like children! As i walked into a fitting room one of them said "girls know girls, and thats a guy" i was so hurt that i couldnt help but cry a little while i was in the fitting room :( i did buy some clothes but now i dont feel like wearing them. I cant help but feel like a guy in a dress now after this. I thought girls were more compassionate but i guess it doesnt really matter who the person is they can still be jerks. It totally ruined my day
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JenJen2011

I'm so sorry that happened to you Elsa. Ignorance knows no age, I'm afraid. Please don't let this incident ruin your day. This has happened to all of us at one point or another. You have to learn to pay ignorant people no mind. When you hear people make stupid comments, just look at them and smile and keep on about your business. People will talk no matter who you are. Trans, gay, bi, straight, fat, skinny, black, white, purple, etc.

Stay strong, wear what you bought, and be happy.

::HUGS::
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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mimpi

Quote from: JenJen2011 on October 18, 2011, 01:51:38 PM
You have to learn to pay ignorant people no mind. When you hear people make stupid comments, just look at them and smile and keep on about your business. People will talk no matter who you are. Trans, gay, bi, straight, fat, skinny, black, white, purple, etc.

Very true, well said :)
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Devlyn

Hi Elsa, I'm sorry you had a bad time shopping. Women are more compassionate (usually!) but girls? Eh, they can be silly and immature. Forget about them, how about some pictures of what you got? At least describe what you bought beyond "some clothes." Girls gotta know! Hugs, Tracey
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Lynn

Those particular girls clearly didn't know girls, or they would've known there's more to it than just looks. Don't let them get you down dear ... find comfort in the likely event that someday they'll giggle at the wrong person and get in trouble. :)

The best thing to do when you encounter something like this though, really is looking at them and smiling. Not the kind of ignorant smile but one more like "yeah I know what you said and I'm proud of who I am". It makes almost everyone feel extremely uncomfortable with what they just said.
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Hermione01

Sorry this happened to you. Some girls can be mean, they think they're smart but they're really dumb.  :-\
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Sailor_Saturn

Quote from: elsaG on October 18, 2011, 01:45:51 PM
went shopping today with my cousin, we went into a Forever 21 which surprisingly was really packed with people even though its a tuesday morning. We picked out some articles of clothing and as we were going into the fitting rooms a group of about 3 girls were talking amongst themselves while they were looking at me and suddenly i heard "thats a guy" and some loud giggling, these girls were clearly about 23 or 24 and they were acting like children! As i walked into a fitting room one of them said "girls know girls, and thats a guy"

Those girls are trapped in a state of arrested development, elsaG. They can't handle anything outside their bubble, and if they encounter such things they respond as children do: with nervous giggling and cruelty as a means of dissociation with the thing they don't understand. Regard their opinions as you would a fourth-grader's (that is, pat them on the head, pretend you care, then promptly forget what they just said because 99% of it is bull->-bleeped-<-). Pity these women, elsaG. They'll be in elementary school the rest of their pathetic existence.
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azSam

I'm REALLY REALLY sorry that this had to happen to you. Wish I could give you a gigantic hug! I thought about leaving susans because it's been nothing but a dramafest, but threads like these keep me around. I just stay out of the silly drama and go to where the genuine concern is needed.

All of the advice of, "Don't let it get you down", while meaning well, just doesn't help. I know how it feels, you know people mean well but you may still feel terrible. I can't give you advice on how to make yourself feel better except that time heals all wounds. Try to distract yourself and try to stay positive. Situations, like what happened to you, are very heavy and hard to carry, but if you do let it pull you down, it can get out of control.. So just try to relax and move forward.

You are a beautiful woman.
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umop ap!sdn

Those girls are so ignorant. You don't look like a guy at all. :)
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stldrmgrl

First of all, I am sorry this happened to you.  People will be mean, as said above, no matter what age, no matter the reason.  With that said, however, I am a down to earth, no sugarcoating type person, so please do not think I am intending on being mean myself with what I am about to write, however, please consider it.

You're feeling down and insulted for being called a "guy" and you're allowing it to sink in.  You're a woman; a woman would shrug this comment off, think to herself that those girls were simply jealous and crazy, and move on with her day.  By you letting this get to you, you're only subconsciously admitting to yourself that you are still a guy.  Let me say it again, you are a woman.  You are not a guy.  I understand the hurt - I've had it myself, but you have to rise above the pathetic comment that girl made, you're better than that.  You are a woman, stay confident.
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kelly_aus

I had something similar happen to me recently and I'd say the girls involved were about the same age..  My response? I smiled at them and said, 'You are only half right..' at which point they got quite embarrassed..
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Gabby

Quote from: elsaG on October 18, 2011, 01:45:51 PM
one of them said "girls know girls, and thats a guy"

They'll meet a bad ass girl who will bust their pathetic balls, but that's personal gratification and it has no place within Justice.

The best thing to do is to alert the store manager and Mall manager and had them exited from the shopping complex.
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JennX

Quote from: elsaG on October 18, 2011, 01:45:51 PM
I thought girls were more compassionate but i guess it doesnt really matter who the person is they can still be jerks. It totally ruined my day

Sorry that happened to you. But actually, I've found some girls can be far more "katty, petty, mean-spirited, and just more down-right nasty" than most any guy I've met. Don't let it get you down... life goes on.  :)
"If you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain."
-Dolly Parton
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Heavenlywind

I'm sorry you had to deal with girls who are rather ignorant.. I apologize for my age group being very very rude and extremely dumb. Its best to try to ignore it if you can. I know thats rather hard to do, but as the others have said people will talk regardless.   I'm not so sure they know girls as well as they say they do. Those types of girls will probably end up getting in trouble sooner or later with someone.

Reminds me of when I went to Hong Kong to visit my friend, some girls on the bus were talking down to me in a similar manner.  They just kept talking trash to me and of course they were saying it out loud. They thought I probably wouldn't understand them since I was reading a manga I brought with me.  They were insulting me and I could understand exactly what they were saying.  I turned my head  towards them and they just waved and smiled. They then proceeded to talk more trash about me while waving and smiling at me.  I tilted my head and said in my deepest voice "What are..." and then switched my voice to my female voice and said like a little child "you talking about?" and winked at them. I got up from my seat and proceeded to "flash them" with my skirt, but I stopped and let out a small scream and people turned to look at them.  Needless to say it was a quiet ride the rest of the way and they looked really dumb..

Sometimes the best way to make people stop is to say or do something and keep them guessing. Those girls that were rude to you were probably jealous I bet.  :laugh:


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Amazon D

Your a woman not a girl.. just keep going forward .. they will grow up one day to think like you which is a woman with compassion
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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Jillieann Rose

I am sorry you had to suffer from the mean spirit of these girls.
Once I was stop in the mall and asked by a security guard if I was a women.
It hurt. But I responded with "Yes I am a women a trans women."
That statement shock him. I still felt very bad and left the mall quickly.
Yes I have been back in the mall many time and have continued my journey now on hrt.

Elsa you know that you are a women, those girls don't know anything.
Don't let people like that steal your joy of life.
Hugs,
Jillieann
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Elsa.G

hey everyone thanks for the support, ive had a couple of hours to get all the steam out. I was mostly angry today when that happened just because it was totally uncalled for. I mean what business is it of their's? Im there to shop just like everyone else and mind my own business, i just hate how people have to stick their nose into things that they know nothing about and people who they dont know. Anyway as i was thinking today, ive decided that i want to opt for facial feminization. It's a bit drastic but i feel like that will help me pass way more. At this point in time i feel its more important than srs, even though the bits down there distress the hell out of me i think FF will help boost my confidence, especially socially. Anyway thanks everyone
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Whitney

Sounds like a pack of she-who-only-dates-jerks. They are likely looking forward to a life of being smacked around and used by the usual suspects and crying all night about how there aren't any "nice guys". They will live a miserable, shallow, unimportant lives; you can bet on that.

She likely has no idea what makes her happy in life, and probably won't ever enjoy the rush of finally feeling free after living an imprisoned life. Remember that you know a happiness that they will never even imagine exists. Live life, do what you want, take what you want, go where you want. Crap like what she said is either a personal insecurity flaring to the surface, or petty one-upping to try and contrast their own, supposed, lack of imperfection. Learn to see through the smoke screen and smile with big and confuse the fuzzies out of them all.
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V M

Those girls sound like a gaggle of boppi bimbos who should be shopping at Forever in High School rather than a young adult woman's shop

Don't let their rude, ignorant and immature behavior spoil your day

Hugs

- Virginia
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Lynne

Hi Elsa,

Don't let a comment made by immature girls ruin your day. If that's you in your avatar, I don't think you really need FFS. They must have picked up on someting else, like your mannerisms, walk, body language or lack of confidence. Surgery should be your last resort. Give hormones some time to work, be confident and don't feel like a guy in drag because you'll act like one.
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