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Started by Ms Bev, October 31, 2011, 11:07:18 PM

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Ms Bev



Good news for some of us........Those of us that are employed FT or become employed FT at Sears are entitled to their Blue Cross Select PPO which now PAYS FOR SRS, GRS, GCS.......in the manual they refer to it as sex reassignment surgery.

YEA!!!







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jesse

you do not need to work for sears to get this insurance it is available as private purchase threw anthems site here are the policies related to gender reassignment coverage as pulled from their policies page but you also need to remember that most grs surgeons do not currently take insurance so you will still have to pay up front then file for reimbursement.

Jessi


Medically Necessary:

Gender reassignment surgery* is considered medically necessary when all of the following criteria are met:

The individual is at least 18 years of age; and
The individual has been diagnosed with the Gender Identity Disorder (GID) of transsexualism, including all of the following:
The desire to live and be accepted as a member of the opposite sex, usually accompanied by the wish to make his or her body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatment; and
The transsexual identity has been present persistently for at least two years; and
The disorder is not a symptom of another mental disorder or a chromosomal abnormality; and
The disorder causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning; and
For those individuals without a medical contraindication, the individual has undergone a minimum of 12 months of continuous hormonal therapy when recommended by a mental health professional and provided under the supervision of a physician; and
The individual has completed a minimum of 12 months of successful continuous full time real-life experience in their new gender, with no returning to their original gender, including one or more of the following:
Maintain part- or full-time employment; or
Function as a student in an academic setting; or
Function in a community-based volunteer activity; and
The individual has acquired a legal gender-identity-appropriate name change; and
The individual has provided documentation to the treating therapist that persons other than the treating therapist know that the individual functions in the desired gender role; and
Regular participation in psychotherapy throughout the real-life experience when recommended by a treating medical or behavioral health practitioner; and
Demonstrable knowledge of the required length of hospitalizations, likely complications, and post surgical rehabilitation requirements of various surgical approaches; and
Demonstrable progress in consolidating one's gender identity, including demonstrable progress in dealing with work, family, and interpersonal issues resulting in a significantly better state of mental health (this implies satisfactory control of problems such as sociopathy, substance abuse, psychosis, suicidality, for instance); and
A letter** from the individual's physician or mental health provider, who has treated the individual for a minimum of 18 months, documenting the following:
The individual's general identifying characteristics; and
The initial and evolving gender, sexual, and other psychiatric diagnoses; and
The duration of their professional relationship including the type of psychotherapy or evaluation that the individual underwent; and
The eligibility criteria that have been met and the physician or mental health professional's rationale for surgery; and
The degree to which the individual has followed the eligibility criteria to date and the likelihood of future compliance; and
Whether the author of the report is part of a gender identity disorder treatment team; and
A letter** from a second physician or mental health provider familiar with the individual's treatment and the psychological aspects of Gender Identity Disorders, corroborating the information provided in the first letter (see #10 above); and
When one of the signatories on the letters indicated above is not the treating surgeon, a letter from the surgeon confirming that that they have personally communicated with the treating mental health provider or physician, as well as the individual, and confirming that the individual meets the above criteria, understands the ramifications and possible complications of surgery, and that the surgeon feels that the individual is likely to benefit from surgery.
* Gender reassignment surgery may include any of the following procedures:
Male-to-Female Procedures

Orchiectomy
Penectomy
Vaginoplasty
Clitoroplasty
Labiaplasty
Female-to-Male Procedures

Hysterectomy
Salpingo-oophorectomy
Vaginectomy
Metoidioplasty
Scrotoplasty
Urethroplasty
Placement of testicular prostheses
Phalloplasty
** At least one of the professionals submitting a letter must have a doctoral degree (Ph.D., M.D., Ed.D., D.Sc., D.S.W., or Psy.D) and be capable of adequately evaluating co-morbid psychiatric conditions. One letter is sufficient if signed by two providers, one of whom has met the doctoral degree specifications, in addition to the specifications set forth above.

Not Medically Necessary:

Gender reassignment surgery is considered not medically necessary when one or more of the criteria above have not been met.
like a knife that cuts you the wound heals but them scars those scars remain
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Annah

Sears has been covering SRS for three years now.

Also, it's a tad bit cheaper to have Anthem through Sears than it is to pay it through a personal plan you created for yourself.
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jesse

agree as it would be for any employer sponsored plan but  it is still a viable option if you are not employed by them
Jessi
for those that wish it anyways
like a knife that cuts you the wound heals but them scars those scars remain
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Annah

Quote from: jesse on October 31, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
agree as it would be for any employer sponsored plan but  it is still a viable option if you are not employed by them
Jessi
for those that wish it anyways

Oh absolutely
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Annah

Here is a list I compiled last July. I know there's about 15 more companies added in the next quarter so I haven't been able to add them in yet:

Coca Cola
Campbells Soup
Walt Disney
State of Conn. Teacher Association
The Government of Louisana
HRC
Johnson and Johnson
Aetna Insurance (private plan)
AmeriHealth
Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield
Blue Cross Blue Shield for:
Massachusetts
Minnesota
Michigan

Ameriprise Financial Inc
Avaya Inc.
Barclays Capital
Bingham McCutchen LLP
Booz Allen Hamilton Inc.
Cardinal Health Inc.
Chrysler LLC
Cisco Systems Inc.
Clifford Chance US LLP
Covington & Burling LLP
Cummins Inc.Deloitte LLP
Deutsche Bank
Diageo North America
DLA Piper
E. I. du Pont de Nemours and Co. (DuPont)
Eastman Kodak Co.
Ernst & Young LLP
Exelon Corp.
Faegre & Benson LLP
Food Lion LLC
Ford Motor Co.
Fried, Frank, Haris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP
Genentech Inc.
General Motors Corp.
Google Inc.
Herman Miller Inc.
Intel Cigna
International Business Machines Corp. (IBM)
Katten Muchin Rosenman LLP
Kimpton Hotel & Restaurant Group Inc.
Kirkland & Ellis LLP
KPMG LLP
Kraft Foods Inc.
Latham & Watkins LLP
Littler Mendelson PC
Marsh & McLennan Companies Inc.
McGraw-Hill Companies Inc., The
Microsoft Corp.
Morrison & Foerster LLP
Nike Inc.
Northern Trust Corp.
PG&E Corp.
Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP
Replacements Ltd.
Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi LLP
Shearman & Sterling LLP
Sonnenschein, Nath & Rosenthal LLP
Sun Microsystems Inc.
Sutherland Asbill & Brennan LLP
White & Case LLP
Yahoo! Inc.

Cigna Private plan
Emblem Health
HealthNet
Health Partners (Minnesota)
Medica

University of Pennsylvania
Penn State
Goldman Sachs
Bank of America

City and County of San Francisco
IBM
AmEx
AT&T
Wells Fargo
Eastman Kodak
Sears
Morgan Stanley
Price Waterhouse
State Farm

New York Life Insurance
Angell Palmer and Dodge Law Firm
City of Berkley

All of these have GRS/GCS/SRS included in their policies.

However, getting disability insurance (i.e., paychecks while you are out recuperating) is at the discretion of your specific company's individual Disability Carrier Contract Guidelines.
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Michelle.

Could we sticky this thread, please?

Thanks ladies for your research.
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michelle666

Does anyone know about the Interpublic Group and the UnitedHealthcare PPO that they offer? I've found mixed answers online about it.
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Annah

Quote from: michelle666 on November 02, 2011, 10:06:20 PM
Does anyone know about the Interpublic Group and the UnitedHealthcare PPO that they offer? I've found mixed answers online about it.

If you work for them, the best thing to do is to contact your benefits coordinator for the health care contact number and then ask a specialist if they cover SRS.

But I am not finding anything
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Butterflyhugs

I wonder if they consider transsexualism a "preexisting condition"

Anybody know?
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Annah

Quote from: Butterflyhugs on November 02, 2011, 11:22:05 PM
I wonder if they consider transsexualism a "preexisting condition"

Anybody know?

It varies from company to company.

If you were being covered by insurance by going to a Gender Therapist for Gender Identity Dysphoria and/or gate keeping reasons, and then get another job then your new Medical Insurance provider may deny you under the pre-existing clause.

Also, some Insurance Providers will see the Pre-existing clause for transsexualism/transgenderism under a different clause. This is usually the more common of the pre-existing clauses:

Let's say you got an orchi under another insurance provider (or you paid out of pocket). Then you got medical insurance that covered transsexualism/transgenderism and a few months after you signed on (or however long) you develop an infection from the orchi. Your insurance provider will not pay to have you correct this as it was a pre-existing condition prior to enrolling within their policy contract. (if you appeal this through the State level insurance board you will more than likely get approved....this argument holds very little water these days for the Insurance Companies).

However, all of this will be pretty mute because the AMA is putting pressure on Insurance Companies to eradicate the pre-existing clause....especially with transgender people

Source: http://www.tgender.net/taw/ama_resolutions.pdf

Also, President Obama signed a bill that makes pre-existing denials extremely difficult for the Health Insurance Companies to enforce:

Source: http://www.familiesusa.org/health-reform-central/september-23/Pre-Existing-Conditions.pdf

In conclusion, I would not worry too much about it. The first step is to see if your company will even carry coverage for transgender people and then worry about the specifics later.

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Butterflyhugs

Well if I was going to pick an insurance plan based on if they cover SRS or not, I'd want to know the specifics before signing up with them  :P
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Annah

Quote from: Butterflyhugs on November 02, 2011, 11:46:16 PM
Well if I was going to pick an insurance plan based on if they cover SRS or not, I'd want to know the specifics before signing up with them  :P

Well if you are privately buying the Insurance you can request a comprehensive list of all benefits, exclusions, etc and find the one that fits for you.

You would want to look at the pre-existing language in whatever insurance company you look at for coverage.  Every single Insurance Company is different with this and you will not know for sure until you call the companies you are interested in and ask for information on their pre-existing clauses, contractual and policy language, etc.
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Michelle.

Quote from: Michelle. on November 01, 2011, 07:43:13 PM
Could we sticky this thread, please?

Thanks ladies for your research.


Ask and you shall receive.

Annah, you rock.
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leflauren678

I have yet to see an American insurance company that will cover FFS or BA, they consider them both cosmetic.

-Lef
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Butterflyhugs

Quote from: leflauren678 on November 04, 2011, 05:10:15 PM
I have yet to see an American insurance company that will cover FFS or BA, they consider them both cosmetic.

-Lef

Thank you captain obvious!  :o

This is about SRS and HRT
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Michelle.

I imagine that's yet to cover at a price that makes economical sense.

At some point the cost you pay for the insurance is going to be nearly equal to the cash cost.

That and I'm not sure that the top surgeons would be willing to discount their fees to what the insurance company is willing to pay out.
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Annah

Quote from: leflauren678 on November 04, 2011, 05:10:15 PM
I have yet to see an American insurance company that will cover FFS or BA, they consider them both cosmetic.

-Lef

this thread was abut srs and insurance.....not ffs or ba and insurance.
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leflauren678


I think they are equally if not more important (especially FFS) parts of surgical transition and should be included in this sticky. I personally don't see them as anymore "cosmetic" than breast reconstruction following mastectomy, which insurance is required to pay for in New York, New Jersey, and most if not all other states.

-Lef

Quote from: Annah on November 04, 2011, 10:54:48 PM
this thread was abut srs and insurance.....not ffs or ba and insurance.

Quote from: Butterflyhugs on November 04, 2011, 07:23:42 PM
Thank you captain obvious!  :o

This is about SRS and HRT
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Butterflyhugs

Quote from: leflauren678 on November 06, 2011, 02:35:42 PM
I think they are equally if not more important (especially FFS) parts of surgical transition and should be included in this sticky. I personally don't see them as anymore "cosmetic" than breast reconstruction following mastectomy, which insurance is required to pay for in New York, New Jersey, and most if not all other states.

-Lef

If you can't see the difference there I'm not sure how to help you out.
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