Straight Men and Transgender Women

[Emily Ray]

While I like playing with men, the whole sraight-gay thing makes me crazy. I'll just stick to girls and let the rest pass me by.

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Emily

[Mahsa Tezani]

While I like playing with men, the whole sraight-gay thing makes me crazy. I'll just stick to girls and let the rest pass me by.

Huggs

Emily

I prefer a man in gay culture. Being with a straight married man reminds me how oppressive this part of the life is. Like I like the validation from unknowing straight men...But will take the queer guy who loves transgirls any day. Chances are he's already "out" to his family/friends.

[Emily Ray]

That makes good sense Mahsa. I would hate to go out with a man and find out after SRS that he was really only interested in my male parts. A queer man whether gay or bi would at least be honest about me I hope.

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Emily

[Sadie]

Well I just started going out for the first time as I am only 51/2 months on hormones, but my friend takes me to the "safe bars" (gay/lesbian bars) for now and I seriously don't know what the hate is against gays and lesbians in this thread they have been nothing but friendly, polite, and sweet to me. In fact its my first time in gay/lesbian bars and I find the whole atmosphere way more friendly than straight bars.

Sadie

[drvotion86]

Well i have been hit on by alot of straight guys. But most ppl cant tell im trans. Most guys like 90% accept me anyways after i tell them... My fiance is a straight man, He is comfortable with himself sexually and has no problem with a trans girl.... I was dating a gay man when i started my transition... He was only interested in guys that liked me, he wasnt jealous because guys were hitting on me, but he was jealous because he wanted those guys. Since they were straight or bi and very good looking. I have never been hit on by a gay man after going full time... in the beginning they would ask me what family i was in like i was a drag queen or asked if i was going to get work done, like illegal silicone. I feel dating a straight man is good, because they would be dating me because i am a beautiful woman. After going full time i havent been with a gay man.

[Krissy_Is_A_Gem]

I work in a predominately male environment. Mining. During my transition not many men would even want to talk to me. Fortunetly I left the mining scene here in Western Australia during my transition. Recently Ive gone back to a remote minesite in WA. It was very daunting as there is always a fresh meat syndrome displayed by the guys when a new girl comes on site. The way I was treated before and the way I am now is completely different. I dont know whether they know about my past. Im treated well and thats what matters to me.

[MsDazzler]

I prefer a man in gay culture. Being with a straight married man reminds me how oppressive this part of the life is. Like I like the validation from unknowing straight men...But will take the queer guy who loves transgirls any day. Chances are he's already "out" to his family/friends.

I am in an odd pickle right now - I went into details about in my other thread (but no one is responding there! ) ... a gay ex popped up in my life just now again - and he wants to rekindle things even though I have already told him that I ve long ago started my transition and was not going to detransition again.

[Bishounen]

Well I just started going out for the first time as I am only 51/2 months on hormones, but my friend takes me to the "safe bars" (gay/lesbian bars) for now and I seriously don't know what the hate is against gays and lesbians in this thread they have been nothing but friendly, polite, and sweet to me. In fact its my first time in gay/lesbian bars and I find the whole atmosphere way more friendly than straight bars.

Sadie

I really wouldn't call the emotions 'hatred' from the persons you refer to, but rather disliking because of crappy experiences.
However, one must remember that just as there are nasty gay people, there are also wonderful gay people that are truly warm and loving personalities, however this definitely do not account for all of them, and if you would ask around here on Susan's, you would find that a lot of members do not have very nice experiences of gay people at all, but in many cases in fact far better experiences from Straight people. Oh the irony, huh.

An FTM explains a classic example of this:  Transphobia in the LGB Community

[Tigger]

As a straight guy I will admit that I do look at a girl who is pretty but there had better be a lot more than a pretty face. I always looked for a true soul mate who is a caring loving girl. I am not your cave man type of of guy who is still pounding rocks together to start a fire and I truely feel that what is between your ears determines your gender and makes you a true girl. A former gf was transgender and I never viewed her as anything other than a wonderful girl, she is a loving sweet girl, and I still care for her even though we are not together. It was a matter of being at two different places in our lives that we couldn't work out that we aren't together still. So girls there are some straight guys who don't have their heads in the rear end out there who love the girl for who she truely is and the rest doesn't matter.

[Sirenia]

As a straight guy I will admit that I do look at a girl who is pretty but there had better be a lot more than a pretty face. I always looked for a true soul mate who is a caring loving girl. I am not your cave man type of of guy who is still pounding rocks together to start a fire and I truely feel that what is between your ears determines your gender and makes you a true girl. A former gf was transgender and I never viewed her as anything other than a wonderful girl, she is a loving sweet girl, and I still care for her even though we are not together. It was a matter of being at two different places in our lives that we couldn't work out that we aren't together still. So girls there are some straight guys who don't have their heads in the rear end out there who love the girl for who she truely is and the rest doesn't matter.

♥ A lovely thought. Men like you make me hopeful that we'll all find a good guy to be with some day.

[pidgeontoed]

Bishounen, what a well put together video. Thanks for linking it! I'm just as dumbfounded as the person who made the video is to hear that transphobia exists within the rest of the community. Never would have thought about that, though I've always been a "love all" believer. I guess that thinking everyone in the rest of the community will accept us is just as stereotyping as the usual negative stereotypes. Everyone is different.

[Keaira]

I really wouldn't call the emotions 'hatred' from the persons you refer to, but rather disliking because of crappy experiences.
However, one must remember that just as there are nasty gay people, there are also wonderful gay people that are truly warm and loving personalities, however this definitely do not account for all of them, and if you would ask around here on Susan's, you would find that a lot of members do not have very nice experiences of gay people at all, but in many cases in fact far better experiences from Straight people. Oh the irony, huh.

An FTM explains a classic example of this:  Transphobia in the LGB Community

Without the help of the gays and lesbians, I have no doubt that my job would be hell right now. I go to PFLAG meetings every month and I do feel extremely welcome there. And I've never had anyone who is gay, bi or lesbian tell me God hates me, You bought into Satan's lie, etc.

As a straight guy I will admit that I do look at a girl who is pretty but there had better be a lot more than a pretty face. I always looked for a true soul mate who is a caring loving girl. I am not your cave man type of of guy who is still pounding rocks together to start a fire and I truely feel that what is between your ears determines your gender and makes you a true girl. A former gf was transgender and I never viewed her as anything other than a wonderful girl, she is a loving sweet girl, and I still care for her even though we are not together. It was a matter of being at two different places in our lives that we couldn't work out that we aren't together still. So girls there are some straight guys who don't have their heads in the rear end out there who love the girl for who she truely is and the rest doesn't matter.

It worked out though. Tigger, I think found his soul mate after all.  His former gf felt that, he deserved someone who didn't have the hangups and emotional baggage that she carried. Having said that, If any girl here were to date him, she would find him to be a very caring and loving man. He just needed a little education at first, given he had not known much about transsexuals in the first place.
It's that ability to look into your heart and past the exterior that I find endearing and just a small part of why he is my best friend.

[Rebekah with a K-A-H]

Gonna be a long time then. Plus ffs and ba... I don't know how you could do it. I admire your patience and courage.

You will have enough time to work out your identity...I had less than 6 months from going from living as a boy to "passing" LOL... I never got t work out that aspect of who I was and adapt.

Seriously, I said stuff like that a lot before transition, but I broke down after about six months and had to start dating again, 'cause I'm a sex and affection fiend.

[Mahsa Tezani]

Seriously, I said stuff like that a lot before transition, but I broke down after about six months and had to start dating again, 'cause I'm a sex and affection fiend.

I've been dating for the last 15 years. Does this ever stop? Oh crap, don't wanna jinx it. Wait, I have a date tomorrow...with that guy, the guy with the beard.

[Rebekah with a K-A-H]

I've been dating for the last 15 years. Does this ever stop? Oh crap, don't wanna jinx it. Wait, I have a date tomorrow...with that guy, the guy with the beard.

Mahsa, I don't think anyone with the swag you're rockin' could not always have someone around their arm.

[Mahsa Tezani]

Mahsa, I don't think anyone with the swag you're rockin' could not always have someone around their arm.

Off the hor moans today and I wore a red/white/blue dress. No one flirted with me, then again I was extremely sleepy and drowsy on vicodin. however a guy I made out with...this overcompensating "straight" boy asked me out to a strip club.

[Rebekah with a K-A-H]

Off the hor moans today and I wore a red/white/blue dress. No one flirted with me, then again I was extremely sleepy and drowsy on vicodin. however a guy I made out with...this overcompensating "straight" boy asked me out to a strip club.

Whoremoans, even.  (That's my new favorite word, by the way.)

But see here.  You're in a Vicodin haze and you still manage to snog a dude.  That's honestly impressive.  Normally, I just end up in questionably platonic cuddles with my queer friends.

[Mahsa Tezani]

Whoremoans, even.  (That's my new favorite word, by the way.)

But see here.  You're in a Vicodin haze and you still manage to snog a dude.  That's honestly impressive.  Normally, I just end up in questionably platonic cuddles with my queer friends.

I knew him previously. I think God and or Jesus don't want me to have a full plate until I've done something with the men on my plate now. The guy with the beard is obsessed with me.

[Rebekah with a K-A-H]

I knew him previously. I think God and or Jesus don't want me to have a full plate until I've done something with the men on my plate now. The guy with the beard is obsessed with me.

Heh, I wouldn't complain if I were you.  There isn't much bad about having too much of a good thing.

[Mahsa Tezani]

Heh, I wouldn't complain if I were you.  There isn't much bad about having too much of a good thing.

I think he wants me to focus on one thing at a time. Namely figuring out what to do with the married guy, the single young horny guy, and the nice bearded guy. I need to go out and socialize more. Today was the first day I went out alone in 3 weeks to actually meet other people.