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Consult with Dr. Zukowski

Started by LifeInNeon, December 17, 2011, 01:23:56 AM

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Katie

I went to Dr. Z. I did not pick him because of his personality. Personally I think he is like a care salesman.

In any case one of the reasons I choose him was he was willing negotiate with me. In 09 when I got the surgery the economy was not that great so he quoted me a price of 25,000. I counteroffered for 15,000. We settled on 17,500. That was a lot of facial surgery and lipo around my waist.

Oh and I should point out the recovery from FFS was dam miserable. Not painful just miserable. It made recovery from SRS, BA, and first round of LIPO (all done at the same time) seem like nothing.

Katie
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SciNerdGirl

Quote from: JLT1 on December 07, 2013, 12:00:47 AM
I have a friend of mine who is one of the before and after pictures that are on his web site.  We are having dinner together Monday and I want to talk with her about Dr Z (something I never did before).  We'll see.  Her surgery was four years ago.  She looks great.

Hugs,

Jen

Wow Jen, is that a virtual FFS result in your avatar pic?  If so you look fantastic!  At first I was thinking, "wow, hormones are working like magic for her", then I read the comment under the picture and realized it must be a manipulated photo.  I cannot wait to see your final result, you are going to be beautiful!

Janet.
If I want to look like a girl, I need to eat like one.

Happiness is getting your eyeliner perfect on the first try  :angel:
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JLT1

Quote from: SciNerdGirl on December 18, 2013, 10:15:46 PM
Wow Jen, is that a virtual FFS result in your avatar pic?  If so you look fantastic!  At first I was thinking, "wow, hormones are working like magic for her", then I read the comment under the picture and realized it must be a manipulated photo.  I cannot wait to see your final result, you are going to be beautiful!

Janet.

Janet,

It's a more or less virtual FFS.  Jennygirl did it for me.  She is very good and the profile avatar she did is close.  FFS is tentatively set for March 8 as I am still working through everything: my life got messy the past few weeks.  Things got really weird at work, I got my letter for SRS and my employer is changing insurance companies.  Money and time off became an issue until I could get everything set.  I'll post some more details about all that on another thread. 

On the other hand, I got taken off HRT for nine weeks due to medical stuff and just got restarted.  However, HRT is really working well, almost scary well.  Bone structure in the face is the only issue.  Like, the ONLY issue: breast size, fat redistribution, all that worked fantastic.  It's very difficult to hide right now.....  Only 76 days left and I'm full time with a new name, a new position at work and the right gender.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!

Hugs!

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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Jennygirl

After virtual FFS'ing some of my own photos, I realized how fun it is and offered to do it for other Susan's members.

I'd be happy to do it for others here again, the only cost being that you ask nicely :D

I have almost a decade of professional experience with photoshop. A little liquify and clone stamping is all it takes. Fun stuff, really :)
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Lauren5

Quote from: Jennygirl on December 23, 2013, 12:46:08 AMAfter virtual FFS'ing some of my own photos, I realized how fun it is and offered to do it for other Susan's members.

I'd be happy to do it for others here again, the only cost being that you ask nicely :D

I have almost a decade of professional experience with photoshop. A little liquify and clone stamping is all it takes. Fun stuff, really :)
Oooh, me first!
I can't do anything with photoshop, and I don't have it for myself to practise on.
Mind if I PM you some pictures for you to try out?
Hey, you've reached Lauren's signature! If you have any questions, want to talk, or just need a shoulder to cry on, leave me a message, and I'll get back to you.
*beep*

Full time: 12/12/13
Started hormones: 26/3/14
FFS: No clue, winter/spring 2014/15 maybe?
SRS: winter/spring 2014/15?
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Jennygirl

Quote from: Willow on December 23, 2013, 12:51:30 AM
Oooh, me first!
I can't do anything with photoshop, and I don't have it for myself to practise on.
Mind if I PM you some pictures for you to try out?

Willow, I'm PM'ing you with deets :)
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likealolita

Hi, Jenny, could you please do one for me, too?  I'm also PMing you.
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Michaela J.

Yeah I've started doing a few VFFS things too, though the noses often turn out a little bit too Michael Jackson for my liking. Plus I'm still not great with forehead stuff or lip lifts. It has shown me the extent to which my nose masculinises my face though, which really helps to know.
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RavenMoon

Quote from: Michaela J. on December 23, 2013, 12:26:16 PM
Yeah I've started doing a few VFFS things too, though the noses often turn out a little bit too Michael Jackson for my liking. Plus I'm still not great with forehead stuff or lip lifts. It has shown me the extent to which my nose masculinises my face though, which really helps to know.

Doing a virtual lip lift is really hard! I've been using Photoshop professionally since he mid 90s, and whenever I try and do my own VFFS I lose patience!  lol  But yet I've spent hours retouching photos at various jobs... go figure!

Since making my decision to transition, and realizing I need some FFS, I spend a lot of time looking at women's faces; in public, in photos, etc. I've downloaded photos of women's faces with a similar shape as mine, etc. So I have come to the conclusion that one of the most masculinizing features on a person's face is the nose and the brow. And all too often, the photos I see of FFS after examples haven't had enough done to the nose. Sometimes nothing at all. And to me, they often don't look like women at all.

I wonder if they either thought they looked good, or they didn't want to look like a different person. But you really can't properly feminize your face and look the same, or you will look like a guy with slightly feminine features, or a manly woman. There's just too much of the face being changed. I have no problem with people not recognizing me afterwards, and I hope that is the case. If I look like the sister I never had, that's fine, but no one confuses a sister and her brother as the same person.

I wouldn't worry about looking like Michael Jackson. No one is going to make your nose that skinny. No doctor would do that, except in his case he was rich and that's what he wanted. His first nose job wasn't so bad. Neither was Janet's. But you should try and have the size of the nose made smaller. It doesn't have to be skinny, but it should not protrude as far off your face, and the angle to the brow has to be changed to that of what's on female's faces.

What I have been doing is finding photos of noses I like that would fit the shape of my face. There is a limit to what can be done, because the existing skin has to drape over the framework. They do cut under the tip/nostrils, and can tighten it up a bit there, but it depends a lot on the thickness of the skin, etc. So the thing is to be very clear with your doctor about what you want, and I wouldn't be too shy about having them do what's needed to make you look like a female, and not just feminizing your features a little bit. Who wants to end up being a manly looking woman? Not me. It's bad enough that we do not have women's bodies.
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julietimebigtime

Quote from: Jennygirl on December 23, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
After virtual FFS'ing some of my own photos, I realized how fun it is and offered to do it for other Susan's members.

I'd be happy to do it for others here again, the only cost being that you ask nicely :D

I have almost a decade of professional experience with photoshop. A little liquify and clone stamping is all it takes. Fun stuff, really :)
ok im new here and just saw this, if your still doing this for people i would appreciate tremendously. ive been on E since july and the effects are starting to show (not nearly as much as i would like, but at least its something) this could possibly get me out of this bad place i got into over the last week.... had the talk with my mom.... now my entire family has decided that i am evil and will have nothing to do with me.
     so if you happen to see this please get back to me one way or the other, thnx
:-* Julie  :-* Ya I'm just that awesome
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enigmaticfluff

I went and had my FFS with Dr. Z last Thursday, it's all video documented for you gals.
If you have any questions please PM me, I am here for you all.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,159193.msg1355181.html#msg1355181
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JLT1

Quote from: julietimebigtime on February 10, 2014, 01:31:17 AM
     ok im new here and just saw this, if your still doing this for people i would appreciate tremendously. ive been on E since july and the effects are starting to show (not nearly as much as i would like, but at least its something) this could possibly get me out of this bad place i got into over the last week.... had the talk with my mom.... now my entire family has decided that i am evil and will have nothing to do with me.
     so if you happen to see this please get back to me one way or the other, thnx

Hi!!!!

Welcome to Susan's.  You have just found a new family. Someone is always here.

I'll get a message off to Jennygirl to see if she can help.  She's awfully busy right now trying to get money saved up for SRS. Give her some time.

You have to have 15 posts before you can send a "PM" or personal message.  I'm going to send you one to see if you can get them.  If you get it, post here again and tell me.  That will let you and Jennygirl communicate personal stuff like an email address so you can send her your picture and so that she can send you her take on your look after FFS.

Congrads on starting HRT.  Some people are fast, some are slow but all have times when they develop more than others so hang in there.

Families can be a real headache.  Being transgender is not wrong.  Being transgender and not dealing with it, however that happens to work, is wrong.  Hang in there.

Get your post in the intro section.  Start posting around so that you can hit that 15 number.  Ask questions, share burdens (you have one there to discuss). 

Hugs,

Jen
To move forward is to leave behind that which has become dear. It is a call into the wild, into becoming someone currently unknown to us. For most, it is a call too frightening and too challenging to heed. For some, it is a call to be more than we were capable of being, both now and in the future.
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julietimebigtime

Quote from: JLT1 on February 10, 2014, 10:54:14 PM
Hi!!!!

Welcome to Susan's.  You have just found a new family. Someone is always here.

I'll get a message off to Jennygirl to see if she can help.  She's awfully busy right now trying to get money saved up for SRS. Give her some time.

You have to have 15 posts before you can send a "PM" or personal message.  I'm going to send you one to see if you can get them.  If you get it, post here again and tell me.  That will let you and Jennygirl communicate personal stuff like an email address so you can send her your picture and so that she can send you her take on your look after FFS.

Congrads on starting HRT.  Some people are fast, some are slow but all have times when they develop more than others so hang in there.

Families can be a real headache.  Being transgender is not wrong.  Being transgender and not dealing with it, however that happens to work, is wrong.  Hang in there.

Get your post in the intro section.  Start posting around so that you can hit that 15 number.  Ask questions, share burdens (you have one there to discuss). 

Hugs,

Jen
hey jen i got the message u sent me. and just a quick question in regards to Dr. Z,ive tried to get in touch with his office to see about getting a consult but havent had anyone get back to me with the e-mail (its been about 4 months since i tried) is there a best way to get ahold of them? i live in AZ so i cant exactly just stroll on in and see him.
:-* Julie  :-* Ya I'm just that awesome
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Melia02

Quote from: julietimebigtime on February 11, 2014, 01:53:09 AM
hey jen i got the message u sent me. and just a quick question in regards to Dr. Z,ive tried to get in touch with his office to see about getting a consult but havent had anyone get back to me with the e-mail (its been about 4 months since i tried) is there a best way to get ahold of them? i live in AZ so i cant exactly just stroll on in and see him.

Check your spam folder. Sometimes Cole's email get sent there by accident. You should receive an email from either Cole or Chris and then a phone from Cole to set up the consultation. I got lucky and had a phone consult early because someone cancelled. I had a similar experience to the girls regarding his conversation skills. Pretty much I got to speak the equivalent of a paragraph and we were on the phone for 20-something minutes. He's a nice guy though and I liked the fact he did a stint in the Navy. I'm more likely than not going to go with him. I love that he uses endoscopic techniques which means less scarring since I have horrible scarring tendencies. Another poster stated Dr. Z gave her 10 days to decide which is odd because the quote he gave me is good until May 2015. I do feel like if you're under the age of 35 then he gives everyone the same list of procedures to feminize their face. Luckily everything he mentioned I was already thinking. The only thing I don't agree with are the fat injections to my lips and the mini face lift. I'm young, my skin will bounce back. And I already have full lips.
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