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Started by lilacwoman, December 18, 2011, 02:54:31 AM

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lilacwoman

Sunday breakfast prog is mentor showing single people how to get social and find a partner.
Today is divorced mother in London who has been wearing shapeless black clothes with trousers, loads of earclips and very unfem and no dates  for years.
mentor takes her shopping and forces her into pretty colourful skirts and clothes  with low necklines, adds jewellery, cuts the hair shorter and adds blonde streaks, make up, perfume! and jewellery.
Takes her out and coaches her on how to speak to men and use her (dare I say it on Susans?) natural femininity and flirtyness.
her female friends all say she is now very chatty about clothes and appearance and guys say she is looking better now she is out of hte dull blcak stuff.
end of six week sshe is out on a dinner date with a lovely guy and really enjoying herself.   table has secret cameras focussed on it to monitor progress and she has a button under table to turn cameras off if she feels confident the rest of the date is going well.
Finishes off with further date with the guy who likes her very much.

Binaries have fun.

So much of the traditional socialising places in UK have shut down that many folk just don't learn social skills and meet really nice people. 
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: lilacwoman on December 18, 2011, 02:54:31 AM
Sunday breakfast prog is mentor showing single people how to get social and find a partner.
Today is divorced mother in London who has been wearing shapeless black clothes with trousers, loads of earclips and very unfem and no dates  for years.
mentor takes her shopping and forces her into pretty colourful skirts and clothes  with low necklines, adds jewellery, cuts the hair shorter and adds blonde streaks, make up, perfume! and jewellery.
Takes her out and coaches her on how to speak to men and use her (dare I say it on Susans?) natural femininity and flirtyness.

So Today is a person? Must be a common name across the pond.

But if a person is born a woman...why do they need coaching? That is like the former me learning to be "gay".
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Nurse With Wound

I prefer my genders in hexadecimal.  :D
Scaring away, my ghosts.
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lilacwoman

lots of people forget binarism and get miserable.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Nurse With Wound on December 18, 2011, 03:02:32 AM
I prefer my genders in hexidecimal.  :D

Okay...what is that...decimals with a curse?
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Nurse With Wound

Oh dear, damn you early morning halfsleeper postings.
Scaring away, my ghosts.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Nurse With Wound on December 18, 2011, 03:28:39 AM
Oh dear, damn you early morning halfsleeper postings.

I went to my room, sat at my vanity, and powdered my nose with errr...powder.
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lilacwoman

coffee break time and next Look Good Naked has gay guy with a bunch of GGs who all hide bodies in shapeless stuff. so he has to take them to mall and make them wear pretty stuff and they love it...shows them how to dress to fit their shapes regardless of what weight, shape, size they are.
One says she'd never wear a belt so he makes her and she is delighted to see how good she looks.

duno why fashion and looking good became such a no-no for UK GGs that lots of high street fashion shops have shutdown.

maybe because so many soaps have miserable couch pototo GGs living with slummy couch potato GMs?  Strange.

program always ends with the women happy to strut their stuff in bra and knix down a catwalk put in local mall with thousand folk watching.
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Dahlia

Quote from: lilacwoman on December 18, 2011, 02:54:31 AM
and use her (dare I say it on Susans?) natural femininity and flirtyness.

LOL!! +1!
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AdamMLP

Quote from: lilacwoman on December 18, 2011, 04:32:51 AM

duno why fashion and looking good became such a no-no for UK GGs that lots of high street fashion shops have shutdown.

maybe because so many soaps have miserable couch pototo GGs living with slummy couch potato GMs?  Strange.


Nothing to do wih the recession and general lack of money then?
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lilacwoman

no.. its been this way since well before the present recession.
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Julian

Quote from: lilacwoman on December 18, 2011, 03:08:32 AM
lots of people forget binarism and get miserable.

Personally, I'm a lot more miserable when I'm stuck in the binary.
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Joeyboo~ :3

Sometimes I'm not sure if I feel 100% like a girl.

I like crossdressing and looking like a guy sometimes o_o

I just hate my male body.
I'd rather have a female body and masculinize it with clothing when I want to crossdress.

So I don't believe I fit in the binary myself.
I don't like it in general though, it's not fair to make something official on what's "normal" for those who don't feel completely male or female.
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Julian

Quote from: JoeyD on December 19, 2011, 10:20:42 AM
Sometimes I'm not sure if I feel 100% like a girl.

I like crossdressing and looking like a guy sometimes o_o

I just hate my male body.
I'd rather have a female body and masculinize it with clothing when I want to crossdress.

So I don't believe I fit in the binary myself.
I don't like it in general though, it's not fair to make something official on what's "normal" for those who don't feel completely male or female.

Likewise! I'm female-assigned, and I like to present feminine sometimes, but I can't stand having a female body. I'd rather be male and feminize myself than be female and masculinize.
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Lily

QuotePersonally, I'm a lot more miserable when I'm stuck in the binary.

I hate it too, it makes me feel so confined.

QuoteI just hate my male body.
I'd rather have a female body and masculinize it with clothing when I want to crossdress.

I feel exactly this way!

I would so love to be passable as a woman with short hair and men's clothing.
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stldrmgrl

Quote from: JoeyD on December 19, 2011, 10:20:42 AM
Sometimes I'm not sure if I feel 100% like a girl.

I like crossdressing and looking like a guy sometimes o_o

I just hate my male body.
I'd rather have a female body and masculinize it with clothing when I want to crossdress.

So I don't believe I fit in the binary myself.
I don't like it in general though, it's not fair to make something official on what's "normal" for those who don't feel completely male or female.

I'm practically the same way, however, I don't particularly ever enjoy looking like a guy; I'd more prefer appearing gender neutral.
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Emily Ray

Maybe the high street fashion stores are closing because europe is in the midst of a recession and debt crisis which hasnt been this bad since WWII. I'm just guessing, but 300 pounds for a skirt suit is beyond my budget. While I enjoy dressing femininly, I don't think it is very good that such a high value is placed on gender bianary when gender is a spectrum from male to female.

Huggs

Emily
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Padma

Womandrogyneâ„¢
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Padma

#18
I'm attracted to androgyne people, and prefer people being attracted to my androgyny to them wanting me to be a stereotypical man/woman. This worked out very fine for me and my new girlfriend.

So I think it depends what you're looking for, and how you want to be seen - as well as how good you feel about yourself (and how good you feel about yourself depends amongst other things on to what extent you're being your true self - whether that expresses itself in binary dress-code or in something else entirely).
Womandrogyneâ„¢
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Rebekah with a K-A-H

Quote from: lilacwoman on December 18, 2011, 02:54:31 AM
Sunday breakfast prog is mentor showing single people how to get social and find a partner.
Today is divorced mother in London who has been wearing shapeless black clothes with trousers, loads of earclips and very unfem and no dates  for years.
mentor takes her shopping and forces her into pretty colourful skirts and clothes  with low necklines, adds jewellery, cuts the hair shorter and adds blonde streaks, make up, perfume! and jewellery.
Takes her out and coaches her on how to speak to men and use her (dare I say it on Susans?) natural femininity and flirtyness.
her female friends all say she is now very chatty about clothes and appearance and guys say she is looking better now she is out of hte dull blcak stuff.
end of six week sshe is out on a dinner date with a lovely guy and really enjoying herself.   table has secret cameras focussed on it to monitor progress and she has a button under table to turn cameras off if she feels confident the rest of the date is going well.
Finishes off with further date with the guy who likes her very much.

Binaries have fun.

So much of the traditional socialising places in UK have shut down that many folk just don't learn social skills and meet really nice people.

You keep using this word: "binarism".

I don't think it means what you think it means.

Watch this:

Quote from: lilacwoman on December 18, 2011, 04:32:51 AM
coffee break time and next Look Good Naked has gay guy with a bunch of GGs who all hide bodies in shapeless stuff. so he has to take them to mall and make them wear pretty stuff and they love it...shows them how to dress to fit their shapes regardless of what weight, shape, size they are.
One says she'd never wear a belt so he makes her and she is delighted to see how good she looks.

duno why fashion and looking good became such a no-no for UK GGs that lots of high street fashion shops have shutdown.

maybe because so many soaps have miserable couch pototo GGs living with slummy couch potato GMs?  Strange.

program always ends with the women happy to strut their stuff in bra and knix down a catwalk put in local mall with thousand folk watching.

This is sexism.  It's promoting the adherence of women to sexist categories of appearance and compliance to inappropriately gendered roles (with the implication that women who do not adhere to these ideals are inherently inferior).

This is also transphobia.  Why does it matter that these "girls" (this is sexist) are "genetic"?  How is this at all relevant?  How would it be any different if these women were trans as opposed to being cis?

"Fashion" is not bad.  Requiring that women adhere to narrowly and strictly defined standards of beauty is bad.

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Now let's look at binarism.  Binarism is the concept that stable, rigid categorical classifications of thought can be used to examine and distinguish the opposing poles of a dichotomous relationship.  When we consider gender binarism, we can investigate its close cousin oppositional sexism, the idea that male and female are strictly defined, mutually exclusive categories that have their own exclusive sets of attributes.  This is not okay.  This is, first off, offensive and constitutes the erasure of anyone who identifies outside the binary or characterizes their gender expression as androgynous or non-binary.

Note that this does not mean that people are not permitted to identify at the male and female poles of the gender spectrum.  It just means that you aren't erasing non-binary people every time you talk about your own gender.
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