What can make this look as a woman? (a brave picture)

[sysm29]

This takes a lot of guts but I want honest answers-

This is a picture of me taken tonight.  I am 26 but to me this looks much older.



I will be meeting with as many as 5 FFS surgeons in the next few months and I already took a bunch of horrible pictures to show them...

I already know what has to be changed.

First of all, the face is very big.  It's long.  Both of those things are rotten.

There's a LOT of brow bossing there. 

My eyes are too small for the rest of the face.

My nose is huge.

The lips are way too big.

Most of all we see that very narrow, asymmetrical jawline coming down to the biggest flaw of all, that long chin, which just hangs there.  A chin augmentation plus a chin shortening procedure, also moving the chin to make it look better.

The lower part of my face presents huge problems. 

I see this picture and I want to give up.  All I see is a big face that can't be made to look smaller.  No matter what hairstyle I have, I will never pass as a woman.

So go ahead, tell me what you'd do to make this work because I can't think of how I'm going to do this.

[shortNsweet]

I know you already said it, but the big things that stands out for me are the eyebrows and the chin. If you take care of those you actually look like a girl I went to high school with.

Congrats on your bravery! I know how much guts it takes to post a picture (especially one that you don't like and shows flaws). You're braver than I am so far. *hugs*

[Melody Maia]

I just wanted to say that you are far from an ugly man and I would say you will likely be an attractive woman, especially if you have FFS and after some time on HRT. Yes, the chin is probably your most prominent male feature, but that can be fixed. Eyebrows need to be trimmed. Disagree about "a lot" of brow bossing. Personally, I think larger lips are very sensual and sexy. Especially on a woman. I think what you are feeling is the dissatisfaction with your male life and body. Take heart hon. I just posted this in another thread, but I used to look like this:



and now look like this:



At the time, I also thought I was quite an unattractive male.

[sysm29]

These are pictures taken from further away... since i manuevered around for a while to get a more flattering angle, these obviously are less devastating.  This is usually the distance away I see in the mirror since I like to stand as far back as I can.

Clearly you can see that chin's really long and that eyebrow thing...you're right, first responder.

[Rosa]

Look at some of the before and after pictures in the forum - you would be amazed at how some of these burly faces turned into such feminine faces, often with just HRT and some makeup.  I have a long face too, you just need the hair style to compliment it.  Don't cut yourself short, you have potential. 

(I posted when you did - you have a very nice smile!  Also, women have bigger lips than men usually, so don't fret that - all the better to pout with!)

[sysm29]

I just wanted to say that you are far from an ugly man and I would say you will likely be an attractive woman, especially if you have FFS and after some time on HRT. Yes, the chin is probably your most prominent male feature, but that can be fixed. Eyebrows need to be trimmed. Disagree about "a lot" of brow bossing. Personally, I think larger lips are very sensual and sexy. Especially on a woman. I think what you are feeling is the dissatisfaction with your male life and body. Take heart hon. I just posted this in another thread, but I used to look like this:



At the time, I also thought I was quite an unattractive male.

I like round faces so I would have said you had the perfect face shape to start with.  Are you Asian?

[Melody Maia]

No. Puerto Rican and Colombian. I just posted a recent female pic too. My face shape really isn't round anymore since I lost weight. More like heart shaped. However, I would say your are greatly exaggerating the face length issue. You look fine to me.

[shortNsweet]

I would say your are greatly exaggerating the face length issue. You look fine to me.

I agree. You have a lot of great potential.

[30kps]

Yeah, I don't think you have as much to worry about as you think you do. You are kinda a pretty boy, and your chin is the only thing that is masculine. Eyebrows can be shaped, and you actually have good lips. All in all, you have a pretty good starting out point. So be happy

[Joeyboo~ :3]

These are pictures taken from further away... since i manuevered around for a while to get a more flattering angle, these obviously are less devastating.  This is usually the distance away I see in the mirror since I like to stand as far back as I can.

Clearly you can see that chin's really long and that eyebrow thing...you're right, first responder.

I think you have a good starting point?
I know you're obsessed with fixing your chin, but if you shortened it the lower half of your face would be too short compared to the upper half. X:
No one has pointed that out yet.

But i really think with a lot of work you could be a cute girl.
You have great lips and a beautiful smile.

[A_Dresden_Doll]

This takes a lot of guts but I want honest answers-

This is a picture of me taken tonight.  I am 26 but to me this looks much older.



I will be meeting with as many as 5 FFS surgeons in the next few months and I already took a bunch of horrible pictures to show them...

I already know what has to be changed.

First of all, the face is very big.  It's long.  Both of those things are rotten.

There's a LOT of brow bossing there. 

My eyes are too small for the rest of the face.

My nose is huge.

The lips are way too big.

Most of all we see that very narrow, asymmetrical jawline coming down to the biggest flaw of all, that long chin, which just hangs there.  A chin augmentation plus a chin shortening procedure, also moving the chin to make it look better.

The lower part of my face presents huge problems. 

I see this picture and I want to give up.  All I see is a big face that can't be made to look smaller.  No matter what hairstyle I have, I will never pass as a woman.

So go ahead, tell me what you'd do to make this work because I can't think of how I'm going to do this.

You are so gorgeous, and you don't even know it. Ya, your chin could use work, but the rest of you is great. If you get those eyebrows shaped correctly, that will make a huge difference in your face. And if you do anything to your mouth, I will find you and hurt you. I'm serious.

If you are not on HRT, get on it. Grow your hair, get it cut to frame your face correctly, learn do to make up the right way, and you will be golden, seriously.

[Cindy]

I so agree with the others.

Go to a studio and get your eyebrows done by a professional. Just say I'm TG and I want my eyebrow totally feminine. Your lips are to die for and totally feminine. Get laser to get rid of the facial hair.

I would suggest waiting for a few years of HRT before FFS.

And stop worrying

Hugs

Cindy

[fionabell]

You look happy, confident and good looking. The perfect picture of contentedness.

[Julo]

As pointed out before: Do Not Mess With Your Lips!!! They are hot!!!

It´s sometimes very difficult to feel pretty sometimes impossible but we really have to try and it will get better.
I never felt I was good looking but it´s really not what other people think. I try to think that they know better since my perception is "distorted". I have a big nose which I don´t really like but the majority of people think it´s really beautiful and characteristic. So I try to believe them.
I think you are too hard on your self like almost every TS (me included at least).

Good luck!

[justmeinoz]

I'd just like to second what others here have said.  Facial hair removal and eyebrow shaping will make a huge difference.

Karen.

[Carolina1983]

I dont think that you have to worry at all actually.

[Rosa]

I'm going to say it too - love your lips.  The first thing that jumps out to me are your eyebrows and facial hair.  As the other girls have said, taking care of those two things will make a dramatic difference, as may HRT.  My two cents is to go for HRT and and hair removal before thinking about FFS.  It is cheaper and may make more difference than you think.  Love your smile, too!