When did you realize you're not really Gay but Trans?

[Emi]

You probably would have better luck finding a partner with andro people - they tend to be flexible about gender and whatnot in their partners.

Maybe you are right..but where i live..the andro people are just... one or two  xDDD  ...  or well  the most of them are or  straigh boys ..or lesbian girls.... not  are truly Andros ... that movement is far this places yet.

But well, at the moment i am in the midle of a relation...who will want me would be more a future problem...
Now my actual problem is..."i will be enough atractive to live whit myself?" because yes.i am a kind of narcisist and whish to  find myslef beuty...   maybe is stupid  to others...but for me is important... :/

[MsDazzler]

Maybe you are right..but where i live..the andro people are just... one or two  xDDD  ...  or well  the most of them are or  straigh boys ..or lesbian girls.... not  are truly Andros ... that movement is far this places yet.

But well, at the moment i am in the midle of a relation...who will want me would be more a future problem...
Now my actual problem is..."i will be enough atractive to live whit myself?" because yes.i am a kind of narcisist and whish to  find myslef beuty...   maybe is stupid  to others...but for me is important... :/

Nothing wrong with that - we just debated about how appearances were irrevelant to transitioning in another thread but in reality, it is!

[Sad Girl]

You are very interesting, lol. Hmm, you are a hetero man wanting to transition to being a lesbian but prefer to be with another trans woman who prferably used to be a gay man?

Is that in a nutshell? heh

LOL THIS IS HILARIOUS AS HELL!!! 

[Bishounen]

  Yikes...so your really just a gay guy who became a woman for more sex?   

It actually happens quite a bit, although I personally wouldn't describe that type of transitioner as being a "true" gay male, as a "gay male" that are willing to become a chick, got to have atleast a degree of ->-bleeped-<- in him, in my opinion, as no "real" cis-male would ever want boobs and walk around in heels.

But yes, there are so called "gay males" that transitions even including having SRS, only to be able sleep with hunks, that happens.
Not really that weird, though, as an individuals underlying and personal Sexual Urges can be very strong and not the least, because someones Sexuality is a part of a persons identity aswell.

[Assoluta]

You may say that gender identity has nothing to do with sexual orientation but those two are interwined.

One invariably influence the other one

May I present "Why is my sexual orientation changing?" thread as evidence? lol

I think the use of language over such issues can become confusing. I also believe that gender identity and sexual orientation are related and can influence each other, but as actual concepts in themselves and what they are, they are two separate things, and one is not the other, and it is in this sense "gender identity has nothing to do with sexual orientation", which is a statement often used to those who believe gender identity is simply a form of, or an extension of sexual orientation.

[MsDazzler]

It actually happens quite a bit, although I personally wouldn't describe that type of transitioner as being a "true" gay male, as a "gay male" that are willing to become a chick, got to have atleast a degree of ->-bleeped-<- in him, in my opinion, as no "real" cis-male would ever want boobs and walk around in heels.

But yes, there are so called "gay males" that transitions even including having SRS, only to be able sleep with hunks, that happens.
Not really that weird, though, as an individuals underlying and personal Sexual Urges can be very strong and not the least, because someones Sexuality is a part of a persons identity aswell.

I dunno how many times I have to repeat this - yes, sex appeal and my sex life played a role in my decision to transition among many, many other factors (I had debated whether to transition or not for years and years before finally taking the plunge last year).

Yes, I am getting a better sex life now because I am a hot chick now but that was not just the ONLY reason I transitioned.

And you are right - I was never really gay in the first place, just misguided because i liiked men and i was born male and couldnt change it, so I thought I was gay.

But I believe in Fate - everything happens for a reason. I am grateful that some of the things, lessons, characteristics, and skills I learned/acquired during my mistakenly-gay lifestyle have helped me transition smoother and better, and helped ease me into the dating world of straight men quickly.

[Sad Girl]

I dunno how many times I have to repeat this - yes, sex appeal and my sex life played a role in my decision to transition among many, many other factors (I had debated whether to transition or not for years and years before finally taking the plunge last year).

Yes, I am getting a better sex life now because I am a hot chick now but that was not just the ONLY reason I transitioned.

And you are right - I was never really gay in the first place, just misguided because i liiked men and i was born male and couldnt change it, so I thought I was gay.

But I believe in Fate - everything happens for a reason. I am grateful that some of the things, lessons, characteristics, and skills I learned/acquired during my mistakenly-gay lifestyle have helped me transition smoother and better, and helped ease me into the dating world of straight men quickly.

OMG sweetie we had the exact same fate/destiny and we have the same perspective EXCEPT on the 'thrashing out the truth' thingy. You plunged into the waters last year but you will realize the average straight men will ALWAYS reject you as soon as they hear you were a man before. MAYBE to love someone and for serious relationship we SHOULD tell the truth but if it's for a casual relationship just for sex, we'd better keep our mouth shut not to be rejected and enjoy haha.

I'm happy you are getting more straight men but BE CAREFUL at times you might confuse straight men with '->-bleeped-<--->-bleeped-<-s'. As soon as a guy resembling a straight guy WANTS TO TOUCH YOUR PENIS OR DO ORAL WITH YOU (if you're pre-op) then it's NOT a straight but a '->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-'. Ewww I don't like them, they make me feel less woman when they wanna touch the part I hate the most in me. 'REAL' STRAIGHT MEN HAVE A TERRIBLE DISGUST TOWARDS PHALUS(PENIS), doesn't mean they won't have sex with you though, they play blind and appreciate your beauty and do maximum they can as per their hetero limits, if you see what I mean... 

[MsDazzler]

OMG sweetie we had the exact same fate/destiny and we have the same perspective EXCEPT on the 'thrashing out the truth' thingy. You plunged into the waters last year but you will realize the average straight men will ALWAYS reject you as soon as they hear you were a man before. MAYBE to love someone and for serious relationship we SHOULD tell the truth but if it's for a casual relationship just for sex, we'd better keep our mouth shut not to be rejected and enjoy haha.

I'm happy you are getting more straight men but BE CAREFUL at times you might confuse straight men with '->-bleeped-<--->-bleeped-<-s'. As soon as a guy resembling a straight guy WANTS TO TOUCH YOUR PENIS OR DO ORAL WITH YOU (if you're pre-op) then it's NOT a straight but a '->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-'. Ewww I don't like them, they make me feel less woman when they wanna touch the part I hate the most in me. 'REAL' STRAIGHT MEN HAVE A TERRIBLE DISGUST TOWARDS PHALUS(PENIS), doesn't mean they won't have sex with you though, they play blind and appreciate your beauty and do maximum they can as per their hetero limits, if you see what I mean... 

-1 to our disagreement over when it is the right time to tell a man you are trans, but....

+1 to your comments about how to tell apart straight men from ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s!

Yeah... honey, Ive been with many and many men (always with condoms) to know which one is a ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<- or not. I am assuming you are a bottom just like I am.

And yeah, i enjoy sex a lot less with ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s than i do with the non->-bleeped-<-s because they are always wanting to go down on your penis and seem to not be able to leave it alone. i ve had pushed their heads away and they always stubbornly try to go back there. heh. and it is even worse if they want to bottom! ugh!

They are only good for one thing - getting attention from them and free drinks at the bar! lmao 

Non->-bleeped-<-s tend to ignore it and actually treat me like a woman 100% (i.e., taking the top role all the time, prefer to eat me out instead of giving ->-bleeped-<-, and me in the passive/submissive role).

I hope that was an interesting reading for you lezzies out there. lol

[Chloe]

I hope that was an interesting reading for you lezzies out there. lol

lol and gotta add: *I despise feminists* especially !

signed: "A Classic Transsexual "