Is this still the MTF forum or is it the ex gay men forum

[MsDazzler]

a transgender forum is not to be confused as a forum where one should be required to dispose everything about their own personal lives. You assume that because we do not discuss our children on Susan's then it must mean we do not include them into our transition. You are further from the truth than you would like to think.

I have three kids. What I decide to add about their lives is my business alone. If I decide to share something then I will. It's presumptuous to think that what I keep as personal is a message to you to believe we do not include our children in our process.

If anyone isn't interested in your threads, then I recommend approaching the subject you wish to talk about in another way. Writing a thread is like writing a book. If you do not provide anything interesting then no one will read it.

Finally, people who are leaving leave this site for many different reasons. Again, it is presumptuous to think that people leave because they are thinking what you are thinking. Some leave because they lose interest for whatever purposes, others leave because they feel they no longer need the site, others leave because they are forced to because they act like children, etc etc.

Also, from my point of view, the traffic on this site has been exactly the same as it was 7 months ago. People leave. People join. It's the nature of things.

Try not to presume too much.

Right on.

Also, like I mentioned earlier, Shelly chose to ignore other non gay-related threads and zoomed in on the gay-related threads and blamed them for changing the nature of the forum. It is just a homophobic knee jerk reaction.

[heatherrose]

I have been coming here, reading and posting since before June 11, 2006.
During that time I have witnessed and/or been involved in some pretty lively scraps.
People come and people go and every one of those people is unique, some exceptionally so.
There have always been topics brought up which have raised the ire of a few or many.
The problem lies not in what topics are brought up but in how they are interpreted and received by the reader.
There are tens of thousands of delineations all along the spectrum which is "Transgender/Transsexual" 
Among those delineations there are Blacks, Whites, Asians, Hispanics, Indigenous, Semitic and Persian people and thorough mixes there of.
All having their own little bents in all different directions.
This is supposed to be a forum, a place to come to and exchange information and all who come here (with honorable intent)
and the subjects they post must be treated with the same respect and consideration one would expect for ones self.
Just because an individuals posted subject matter doesn't jive with someone elses own personal delineation along the spectrum,
does not mean it does not deserve to be heard.
"Can't we all just get along?"

[Cindy]

When people join Susan's we post links to the Terms of Service. These are the rules that Susan wants the members to live by on her forum. Yes her forum.

You are here by her invitation. As people have said, Susan built this to be a support site.

Sadly that concept, though very simple, is not understood by everyone.

This thread is locked and I will be reviewing peoples comments for possible action.

Cindy James
Global Moderator